Laser Amplifier used at 70%, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, I installed a laser dump just before the telescope to avoid any high power (50W instead of 17W usually) issue in the injection line.
last time, we saw some plastic mounts of the polarizers slightly burnt because of some small misalignment.
I used a thorlabs LB2 (see picture) which is able to manage 80W CW or 25J/cm2 pulses => this is OK in both cases : 50W CW / 1.5µJ/pulse for ThomX.
I started the laser amplifier at 70% which produces 50W at the amplifier output and 45W at the input of the FPC.
start : 15h10
immediately, the Temp Amp1 increases from 26°C to 30°C
the Temp Amp2 stays around 26°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 5-10 min
Temp Amp1 : 31°C
Temp Amp2 : 27°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 30 min
Temp Amp1 : 31,6°C
Temp Amp2 : 27,5°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 1h00
Temp Amp1 : 31,6°C
Temp Amp2 : 27,6°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 1h30
Temp Amp1 : 31,7°C
Temp Amp2 : 27,7°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 2h00
Temp Amp1 : 31,7°C
Temp Amp2 : 27,7°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
start + 2h30
Temp Amp1 : 31,7°C
Temp Amp2 : 27,7°C
PD_OUT = 79,2W
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High frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Today, the lock of the FPC was particularly bad (maybe the worst ever seen), with a lot of high frequency noise.
the lock was impossible during several minutes !
we tried to switch off all the equipments of the machine, one by one without any effect on the lock.
at the end, we looked at the accelerometer installed inside the housing to check if there was some correlation.
and for the 1st time we clearly saw a 100% correlation beween the accelerometer signal with a noise oscillating above +/-300mV
but we didn't find the origin of this noise. |
High frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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At the end of the day, we found out what was the origin of this noise : some road renovation work with jackhammer and road roller just at the entrance of the "Igloo".
this origin was 100% correlated with a large increase of the accelerometer signal.
but we clearly saw that the FPC is much more sensitive than the accelerometer... the signal can have a small increase or just one peak and the cavity lock is lost.
then, we can make the assumption that all the "high frequency noise" which produces some lock losses could come from acoustic noise due to the road traffic or from the equipments in the bunker itself.
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Today, the lock of the FPC was particularly bad (maybe the worst ever seen), with a lot of high frequency noise.
the lock was impossible during several minutes !
we tried to switch off all the equipments of the machine, one by one without any effect on the lock.
at the end, we looked at the accelerometer installed inside the housing to check if there was some correlation.
and for the 1st time we clearly saw a 100% correlation beween the accelerometer signal with a noise oscillating above +/-300mV
but we didn't find the origin of this noise.
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High frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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After this observation, we did a test with Daniele to try to correlate the road traffic in front of the Igloo with the lock losses observed on the FPC.
We didn't see any clear correlation. Cars or buses are not the direct origin of the FPC lock losses... only when some heavy load is hitting the building, we observed a clear correlation.
So, we still observed a lot of FPC lock losses when the day is windy...
One possible cause could be the large door of the igloo (~20 m²) hitting the Igloo when the day is windy.
I installed the accelerometer on the rail on the bottom of the large door to see if there is any correlation.
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At the end of the day, we found out what was the origin of this noise : some road renovation work with jackhammer and road roller just at the entrance of the "Igloo".
this origin was 100% correlated with a large increase of the accelerometer signal.
but we clearly saw that the FPC is much more sensitive than the accelerometer... the signal can have a small increase or just one peak and the cavity lock is lost.
then, we can make the assumption that all the "high frequency noise" which produces some lock losses could come from acoustic noise due to the road traffic or from the equipments in the bunker itself.
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Today, the lock of the FPC was particularly bad (maybe the worst ever seen), with a lot of high frequency noise.
the lock was impossible during several minutes !
we tried to switch off all the equipments of the machine, one by one without any effect on the lock.
at the end, we looked at the accelerometer installed inside the housing to check if there was some correlation.
and for the 1st time we clearly saw a 100% correlation beween the accelerometer signal with a noise oscillating above +/-300mV
but we didn't find the origin of this noise.
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High frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics  
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we did some tests with Marie to make some vibrations on the door.
below, I exhibit some pictures of the scope with the accelerometer plugged on it without or with noise...
this level of noise is not able to make the FPC loosing the lock.
even when saturating the noise signal on the accelerometer, the FPC is not loosing the lock all the time.
then, when a day is very windy, it's possible it could have some effect, but for a normal day, it's seems very doubtful that is the reason...
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After this observation, we did a test with Daniele to try to correlate the road traffic in front of the Igloo with the lock losses observed on the FPC.
We didn't see any clear correlation. Cars or buses are not the direct origin of the FPC lock losses... only when some heavy load is hitting the building, we observed a clear correlation.
So, we still observed a lot of FPC lock losses when the day is windy...
One possible cause could be the large door of the igloo (~20 m²) hitting the Igloo when the day is windy.
I installed the accelerometer on the rail on the bottom of the large door to see if there is any correlation.
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At the end of the day, we found out what was the origin of this noise : some road renovation work with jackhammer and road roller just at the entrance of the "Igloo".
this origin was 100% correlated with a large increase of the accelerometer signal.
but we clearly saw that the FPC is much more sensitive than the accelerometer... the signal can have a small increase or just one peak and the cavity lock is lost.
then, we can make the assumption that all the "high frequency noise" which produces some lock losses could come from acoustic noise due to the road traffic or from the equipments in the bunker itself.
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Today, the lock of the FPC was particularly bad (maybe the worst ever seen), with a lot of high frequency noise.
the lock was impossible during several minutes !
we tried to switch off all the equipments of the machine, one by one without any effect on the lock.
at the end, we looked at the accelerometer installed inside the housing to check if there was some correlation.
and for the 1st time we clearly saw a 100% correlation beween the accelerometer signal with a noise oscillating above +/-300mV
but we didn't find the origin of this noise.
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High frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning, I installed a high-voltage probe (1:1000) on the AC-line to see if one could detect a correlation between lock losses and AC-line voltage variations.
I observed many lock losses but without any variation or correlation of the AC-line signal (scope set in "peak detect" with "envelope" arithmetics).
see attached figure.
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we did some tests with Marie to make some vibrations on the door.
below, I exhibit some pictures of the scope with the accelerometer plugged on it without or with noise...
this level of noise is not able to make the FPC loosing the lock.
even when saturating the noise signal on the accelerometer, the FPC is not loosing the lock all the time.
then, when a day is very windy, it's possible it could have some effect, but for a normal day, it's seems very doubtful that is the reason...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After this observation, we did a test with Daniele to try to correlate the road traffic in front of the Igloo with the lock losses observed on the FPC.
We didn't see any clear correlation. Cars or buses are not the direct origin of the FPC lock losses... only when some heavy load is hitting the building, we observed a clear correlation.
So, we still observed a lot of FPC lock losses when the day is windy...
One possible cause could be the large door of the igloo (~20 m²) hitting the Igloo when the day is windy.
I installed the accelerometer on the rail on the bottom of the large door to see if there is any correlation.
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At the end of the day, we found out what was the origin of this noise : some road renovation work with jackhammer and road roller just at the entrance of the "Igloo".
this origin was 100% correlated with a large increase of the accelerometer signal.
but we clearly saw that the FPC is much more sensitive than the accelerometer... the signal can have a small increase or just one peak and the cavity lock is lost.
then, we can make the assumption that all the "high frequency noise" which produces some lock losses could come from acoustic noise due to the road traffic or from the equipments in the bunker itself.
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Today, the lock of the FPC was particularly bad (maybe the worst ever seen), with a lot of high frequency noise.
the lock was impossible during several minutes !
we tried to switch off all the equipments of the machine, one by one without any effect on the lock.
at the end, we looked at the accelerometer installed inside the housing to check if there was some correlation.
and for the 1st time we clearly saw a 100% correlation beween the accelerometer signal with a noise oscillating above +/-300mV
but we didn't find the origin of this noise.
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Noise issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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since several days, we see that the locking is more and more unstable and the lock duration was sometime less than 20-30 seconds !
1) I tried to optimize the feedback loops
I discovered that the gain on the fast loop on the laser EOM was very low and was almost uneffective for the global stability of the lock (I can remove the cable of the HV to EOM and it does not change the stability of the signals).
when I tried to increase this loop gain in open loop for the PZT loop, I clearly saw an improvement of the transmission signal stored in the cavity.
but when I close the PZT loop, it does not help to get a better locking.
so, at the end, I cancel this loop gain (HV amplifier for the EOM is OFF !) and only the slow feedback loop on the PZT is working.
I reduced the by a factor 2 the range on the PZT loop side to reduce the noise due to the amplified Laselock (voltage divider 1/2 before the HV amp for the PZT).
and I switched off the laser motor controller (Smaract MCS).
after optmization of the PID parameters, I was able to get back the 90kW we had in the past for 33% laser amp ratio and with a very good stability :
the transmission signal is a line and the reflection signal is almost a line too.
in this condition, I seems that I can lock the laser and the FPC indefinitely.
2) issue with Smaract controller
I put back the Smaract controller only for the CEP channel => one can clearly see a bit more noise on the PDH signal but the transmssion and the reflection signal stay almost the same with a very good stability.
then, I put back the Smaract controller for both channels (CEP and laser cavity length) => the lock was very bad, even after a PID optimization despite the fact it was a "Low Vibration" (LV) Smaract MCS controller.
we tried to change the 3-channels LV controller by a standard 3-channels (not LV) spare controller => it was OK for the CEP channel but not good at all the laser cavity length channel => very noisy.
so, we kept this standard controller for the CEP channel and we took 1-channel LV spare controller for the laser cavity length channel => it was ok. no more additionnal noise and we can work without delock in piezo-scan mode.
important parameters :
I used 1ms for hold time in the Smaract controller configuration.
I used 1V/s in piezo scan mode for the speed => it does affect the noise level when the piezo is moved !
3) IP Smaract controller parameters :
I used the MCSNetworkInterfaceConfig.exe software to configure both IP addresses of the 2 controllers.
it's easy, one just has to choose the options.
the IP address for controller ruling the laser cavity length is : 192.168.1.200:5000
the IP address for controller ruling the CEP is : 192.168.1.201:5000
4) final long run test
We did a 1/2h run test to check how many lock loss one gets... see the picture.
we had some few lock losses (with the RF feedback lock ON too) but most of the time, the RF phase was not lost and the X-rays should be continued to be produced.
a test should be done tomorrow.
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Noise issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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yesterday, in the same conditions, we had so many locking issues... exactly in the same way than before. :-(
so we still have "locking issues" depending on something we didn't find...
today, we removed the "1/2 voltage divider" before the PZT amplifier to get back the full dynamic.
we have a little bit more noise and we lose some power on transmission (85kW instead of 90kW) but it worked pretty well.
we had quite long X-rays runs ~ 20 minutes without any lock losses => see the picture.
but we have to keep in mind that maybe it was just a "good" day and an another day can be "bad".
we still have to understand where do these perturbations come from.
the good news is we brought back the previous setting of the FPC.
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since several days, we see that the locking is more and more unstable and the lock duration was sometime less than 20-30 seconds !
1) I tried to optimize the feedback loops
I discovered that the gain on the fast loop on the laser EOM was very low and was almost uneffective for the global stability of the lock (I can remove the cable of the HV to EOM and it does not change the stability of the signals).
when I tried to increase this loop gain in open loop for the PZT loop, I clearly saw an improvement of the transmission signal stored in the cavity.
but when I close the PZT loop, it does not help to get a better locking.
so, at the end, I cancel this loop gain (HV amplifier for the EOM is OFF !) and only the slow feedback loop on the PZT is working.
I reduced the by a factor 2 the range on the PZT loop side to reduce the noise due to the amplified Laselock (voltage divider 1/2 before the HV amp for the PZT).
and I switched off the laser motor controller (Smaract MCS).
after optmization of the PID parameters, I was able to get back the 90kW we had in the past for 33% laser amp ratio and with a very good stability :
the transmission signal is a line and the reflection signal is almost a line too.
in this condition, I seems that I can lock the laser and the FPC indefinitely.
2) issue with Smaract controller
I put back the Smaract controller only for the CEP channel => one can clearly see a bit more noise on the PDH signal but the transmssion and the reflection signal stay almost the same with a very good stability.
then, I put back the Smaract controller for both channels (CEP and laser cavity length) => the lock was very bad, even after a PID optimization despite the fact it was a "Low Vibration" (LV) Smaract MCS controller.
we tried to change the 3-channels LV controller by a standard 3-channels (not LV) spare controller => it was OK for the CEP channel but not good at all the laser cavity length channel => very noisy.
so, we kept this standard controller for the CEP channel and we took 1-channel LV spare controller for the laser cavity length channel => it was ok. no more additionnal noise and we can work without delock in piezo-scan mode.
important parameters :
I used 1ms for hold time in the Smaract controller configuration.
I used 1V/s in piezo scan mode for the speed => it does affect the noise level when the piezo is moved !
3) IP Smaract controller parameters :
I used the MCSNetworkInterfaceConfig.exe software to configure both IP addresses of the 2 controllers.
it's easy, one just has to choose the options.
the IP address for controller ruling the laser cavity length is : 192.168.1.200:5000
the IP address for controller ruling the CEP is : 192.168.1.201:5000
4) final long run test
We did a 1/2h run test to check how many lock loss one gets... see the picture.
we had some few lock losses (with the RF feedback lock ON too) but most of the time, the RF phase was not lost and the X-rays should be continued to be produced.
a test should be done tomorrow.
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Power shut down on September 23th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics | cabling | software | utilities
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to anticipate the power shut down on next tuesday 23/09,
this afternoon, I switched off all the equipments except the oscillator connected on the UPS. |
Power shut down on September 23th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics | cabling | software | utilities
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this morning, I restarted all the equipments of the FPC.
everything was fine after being able to get back the correct PDH phase between modulation and demodulation...I got 88kW with 33% amplifier ratio after basic alignment and CEP tuning.
the Pico1 server used for the X-ray photodiode TMD.01 doesn't want to start...
I tried with Astor. the server start to run (red => blue => green colors)
but when I start the Jive panel, it gets down again (red color)... to be solved
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to anticipate the power shut down on next tuesday 23/09,
this afternoon, I switched off all the equipments except the oscillator connected on the UPS.
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Power shut down on September 23th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics | cabling | software | utilities
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the 33MHz/500MHz RF frequencies from the Ring seems different from the previous state (maybe working at an energy of 50MeV instead of 70MeV which was the previous energy ?).
so, I let the FPC at the present position and wait to discuss if it is necessary or not to move the FPC motors for the correct energy...
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this morning, I restarted all the equipments of the FPC.
everything was fine after being able to get back the correct PDH phase between modulation and demodulation...I got 88kW with 33% amplifier ratio after basic alignment and CEP tuning.
the Pico1 server used for the X-ray photodiode TMD.01 doesn't want to start...
I tried with Astor. the server start to run (red => blue => green colors)
but when I start the Jive panel, it gets down again (red color)... to be solved
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to anticipate the power shut down on next tuesday 23/09,
this afternoon, I switched off all the equipments except the oscillator connected on the UPS.
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Power shut down on September 23th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics | cabling | software | utilities
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This morning I did a phase alignment on the PDH signal generator (Rigol DG4102)
this procedure ensure that both phases of the sine wave signals are aligned before finding the correct phase for maximizing the error signal.
so, from now on, in case of power shut down, one just need to :
1) do a phase alignment
2) put the correct phase number on the 2 channels according to the picture (if not automatically done by the generator itself).
340° on channel 1
270° on channel 2
1) and 2) can be done in any order.
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the 33MHz/500MHz RF frequencies from the Ring seems different from the previous state (maybe working at an energy of 50MeV instead of 70MeV which was the previous energy ?).
so, I let the FPC at the present position and wait to discuss if it is necessary or not to move the FPC motors for the correct energy...
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this morning, I restarted all the equipments of the FPC.
everything was fine after being able to get back the correct PDH phase between modulation and demodulation...I got 88kW with 33% amplifier ratio after basic alignment and CEP tuning.
the Pico1 server used for the X-ray photodiode TMD.01 doesn't want to start...
I tried with Astor. the server start to run (red => blue => green colors)
but when I start the Jive panel, it gets down again (red color)... to be solved
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to anticipate the power shut down on next tuesday 23/09,
this afternoon, I switched off all the equipments except the oscillator connected on the UPS.
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Accelerometer measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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with Daniele, we placed the accelerometer on top of the fiber amplifier box which is inside the housing.
the goal was to try to detect a correlation with some possible accoustic noise coming from the bubbles of the water, cooling the amplifier box baseplate.
we monitored a long trend of the transmission which is perturbated when high frequency noise arises, and the accelerometer signal.
the long trend plots only the peak-peak value of a full 1 second acquisition every 2 seconds during ~2500 pts equivalent to ~5000 seconds = 1h20
on the plot, the top white signal is the transmission pk-pk and the bottom red signal is the accelerometer pk-pk.
we don't see any correlation except at 600-700 pts because Daniele entered the bunker and slightly knock on the bottom of the optical table several times.
and at 1950-2300 pts, because he opened the housing (much more noise recorded by the accelerometer) and then it close it again.
he also try to knock on the amplifier controller rack which is placed on the ground, below the table, but he didn't see any correlation with some cavity lock losses.
=> no clear conclusion.
except that the noise seen on the transmission when the housing is open is close to the "high frequency noise" we observe... could it be some accoustic noise coming from elsewhere ? |
polarization measurement of the FP cavity beam, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, with Daniele, we did a simple polarization measurement in transmission of the FP cavity beam.
1) we locked the FP cavity and measured 82.5kw (for 33% amplifier ratio) with the power-meter moved a little bit further (this is maybe the reason why the power is a little bit lower than usually measured).
2) then, we installed a high power PBS CCM1-PBS25-1064-HP(/M) with a transmission of 89% of the P-polarization @ 1030nm
We measured 66.5kW in transmission of the cube.
3) then we installed a half waveplate to find the optimum angle => 77kW measured at an angle of 342°
(almost no power has been observed in the vertical polarization state of the PBS).
Then we rotated the waveplate to find the previous measurement => 66.5kW at an angle of 348°
(we checked that adding the waveplate in the path almost does not change the measured power)
Conclusions :
- the FP cavity polarization is almost horizontal (P-polarization) and linear (77kW ~ 89%*82.5kW)
- the angle of the polarization is roughly 2*(348-342)° = 12°
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Power shut down on August 29th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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This morning, all the equipments have been switched off due to a power shut down tomorrow morning.
Only the Onefive oscillator is still ON, connected to the Uninterruptable Power Supply (UPS). |
Power shut down on August 29th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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after alignment, CEP adjustment and optimizing the PDH phase, I got back ~92kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
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This morning, all the equipments have been switched off due to a power shut down tomorrow morning.
Only the Onefive oscillator is still ON, connected to the Uninterruptable Power Supply (UPS).
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Alignment correction during the summer break, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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I restarted the FPC system this morning.
after some classic alignement procedure (some LEFT steps on the cavity injection motors X & Y) and CEP tuning,
I got 92kW for 33% amplifier ratio.
the cavity was not particularely misaligned...
then I did a long run at 90kW with both feedbacks ON without any problem. |
laser operation again with machine OFF, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The laser start at 33% with 92 KW optimized and
P=0.03
I=0.0005
I2=0
D=0.5
But we have more and more problems with the alignement from a day to another!!!
We start the machine and we do Xrays again.
The lock is easy and stable, we see some hig fraq perturbations but no delock as yesterday.
ATTENTION!!!!! when one switch ON or OFF the hexapode motors we have big delock like what we observed some time during the operation!!!!!
For the big delock we have to investigate the operation of the hexapode!!
We have changed the orbit and obtained almost 40000 Xrays. with an ebeam dimension of 121 µm rms.
And now I go in Hollydays!!
See you after 15 august
Daniele |
Xrays experiment with prostate, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today we do XRays for experiment.
The laser start to 33% at 93 KW but Pgain = 0.033
The laser is locked so stable for the moment. We have Xrays and the system is stable.
I have started a trend of laser power.
Some high freq perturbations are visibles but no delock.
It's clear that when the charge vary a lot in the ring we see more high frq perturbations!!
Each time we inject electrons we see high freq pert!!! But the delock are rare!
When electrons are lost we see high freq perturbations!!
New PID parameters
P=0.03
I=0.0005
I2=0
D=0.5
Axe18=+0.0016014
We have done a vertical scan and de e-beam seem to be very very large!! >1mm
The e-beam is not well adjusted but the lock is really much better!
We do good measurement of X fluorescence spectrum of Prostate, ThomX is becoming more and more interesting Xrays source!!
Daniele |
Suite tests stabilité, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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We continue to find what gives high freq. perturbation.
The laser starts at 92 KW it is stable and locked to the RF. NO high freq parturbation.... With the machine off. (30 min of lock)
We put now the machine ON (All in warming exept pulsed elements)... => the system is very stable NO delock, NO high freq perturbations. The operator can even go to toilet during the operation... it's a very big improvement!!!
Now we continue with the e-beam production.... => when we put ON the Kikers wtih the rest of the machine (no electrons yet) some perturbations are observed and delock also.... but no really high freq perturbations juste very big 20 Hz like ones (at 10h30). Some people oh PERLE are in the igloo now. In any case it was easy to relock and it is very stable now.
10h50 some 40 Hz perturbation and delock.... and very big 20 Hz perturbations.... some delock arrived but not really high freq.
!!!!!!! PERLE PEOPLE MOVES LE PONT SINCE 10H30!!!!! CORRESPONDING TO DELOCK!!!
That means that the system is stable with all the maching On (but NO electrons).
So in the afternoon we will put the electrons and continue the investigation of stability.
I restart the laser after lunch with electrons in the machine. I have lost 7 KW of power.... and the lock parameter changed (P gain 0.05-> 0.03)
Je vois passer des hautes freq!! J'ai retrouvé 92 KW avec l'alignement qui avait bougé visiblement!! But the PID parameters are still 0.03.
I see a little bit Hig frq perturb but the laser dont delock. Also bigger high freq perturbation with delock. electrons effect or alignement problems??
We change the frequency for 50MeV. Delta freq = 3.6kHz so dela cavity lenght -1.1mm
We have electrons and we lock much better than before to add the amplifier to enlarge PID range.
We observe some high freq perturbations but the PID compensate and we have almost no delock!!
In conclusion: high freq perturbations dont come from the machine without electrons. The presence of the electrons is associated to some high frq perturbations but the new feedback system can compensate them and delock are rare but we have some with electrons.
Globaly the system is much better
Daniele |
Stability test Without and with , posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The laser starts at 93 KW.
This morning I operated the laser locked with the RF for 1h30 without any delock. All the machine was switch off.
All the system was very stable. Sometimes the 20 Hz perturbation was visible but no delocking.
In the afternoon I switched ON just the kikers and septum (with the Kikers delay of not giving perturbation for the synchro -8.561) and I do the same thing => The situation is exactely the same, all the system is very stable (but 20 Hz perturbations). NO deloking during 1h.
I change the delay between Kikers to -7.561 => exactely the same situation, all is very stable!!!!
In 3h of synchronized operation, NO delock at all with or without Kikers!!!
Conclusion no effect at all when juste pulsed element are switched ON.
Daniele |
Tuning of the slow feeback loop analog BW + fast feedback loop gain + PID, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Today with Daniele, we tuned the potentiometer after the Laselock which drives the analog BW of the PID on the laser PZT,
and we tuned also the fast loop gain (with the rotary potentiometer dedicated to it) => the PID parameters have changed.
so, the recipies has changed => to be updated
the global observation with the x3 amplifier on the laser PZT channel, is the system is more noisy.
the maximum power for 33% amp ratio is now ~93kW instead of 97-98kW.
we tried this afternoon to do a long run with the RF and the FPC loops activated, but it seams that a lot of high frequency noise is present.
is it coming from the new parameters feedback setup or because of the electron machine which is ON ? |
New recipies with additionnal attenuation before the diffuser, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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With optical attenuation only
For ~ 92kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 33%
- Axis 18 position : +0003768 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.1
I = 0.0015
D = 1.5
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.05V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 5
I = 0.0001
D = 1
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
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New recipies with additionnal attenuation before the diffuser and new x3 amplifier on laser PZT, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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With optical attenuation + x3 amplifier on laser PZT channel + feedback tuning
Temporary recipie for ~ 92kW power in the FP-cavity:
(in the previous scheme, without x3 laser PZT amp, a good lock was achieved for a PDH signal power noise ~ 70 mV rms)
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 34%
- Axis 18 position : +0016956 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.04
I = 0.0005
D = 0.48
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.03V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : reset
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 1
I = 0.00005
D = 1
Sign : positive
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : +0.4V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : reset
range : 50%
offset : 5V
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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For ~ 92kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 33%
- Axis 18 position : +0003768 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.1
I = 0.0015
D = 1.5
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.05V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 5
I = 0.0001
D = 1
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
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laser PZT amplifier, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, I added the Gain = 2.8 amplifier at the output of the Laselock to drive the laser PZT.
the power supply of the board is disymetric to address the correct maximal dynamic range of the amplifier (~ 30V) and voltage drop (~ 2V) related to the power supply voltage.
so, the power supply is set to -2V / 32V which gives roughly 0-28V of dynamic range at the ouput for 0-10V at the input.
despite the additionnal noise added by the amplifier, we are able to lock easily, and reach ~ 93kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
obviously, as the dynamic range of this PZT has been multiplied by ~3, it is much more comfortable to operate the motors.
but the overall stability seems a bit degraded... to be checked, as finding the right PID + fast loop gain is not easy.
=> to be done tomorow. |
long run to test the appearance of high frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Today with Daniele, we did 6 long runs at different power (23kW, 46kW, 66kW, 73kW, 92kW, 92kW)
All the lock loss in between these several runs are due to FPC locking parameters change.
most of the few lock losses during the stable power duration, are due to 20Hz oscillation noise or because we forgot to center properly the PZT in its range (operator faults).
the 4 first runs (23kW, 46kW, 66kW, 73kW) are using the PID : (P=0.1 / I=0.0015 / D=1.5) without the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
the 5th run (92kW) is using the PID : (P=0.1 / I=0.0015 / D=1.5) with the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
the 6th run (92kW) is using the PID : (P=0.05 / I=0.0005 / D=0.6) and obviously a different diffuser position) with the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
surprisingly, we never saw any high frequency noise during the day !
to be noticed : the electron machine was OFF / the day was sunny without wind / almost nobody was working in the bunker. |
long run to test the appearance of high frequency noise, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, long run directly at full power (33% amplifier ratio) => 98kW in the FPC at the very begining of the run.
(P=0.05 / I=0.0005 / D=0.6)
10-40 min : almost misalignment effect (CEP did not change so much)
I increased 3 times the amplifier ratio to 34%, 35%, 36% to compensate the misalignment and keep the power almost constant.
then I did a full tuning (CEP + alignment)
45-110 min : misalignment effect after ~30min of warming up of the FPC => much more stable.
I corrected twice (@ 85min) the alignment to compensate a bit the power loss
globally, the FPC seems stable => all the lock losses come from the 20Hz noise and are recovered very quicly by the locking.
I never saw the high frequency noise which can produce long lock losses.
maybe it's time to add the gain x3 on the laser PZT channel to get some room on the 20Hz noise compensation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today with Daniele, we did 6 long runs at different power (23kW, 46kW, 66kW, 73kW, 92kW, 92kW)
All the lock loss in between these several runs are due to FPC locking parameters change.
most of the few lock losses during the stable power duration, are due to 20Hz oscillation noise or because we forgot to center properly the PZT in its range (operator faults).
the 4 first runs (23kW, 46kW, 66kW, 73kW) are using the PID : (P=0.1 / I=0.0015 / D=1.5) without the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
the 5th run (92kW) is using the PID : (P=0.1 / I=0.0015 / D=1.5) with the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
the 6th run (92kW) is using the PID : (P=0.05 / I=0.0005 / D=0.6 and obviously a different diffuser position) with the additionnal optical attenuator placed after the diffuser.
surprisingly, we never saw any high frequency noise during the day !
to be noticed : the electron machine was OFF / the day was sunny without wind / almost nobody was working in the bunker.
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optical attenuator added on the diffuser + new PID parameters, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Today we did several long runs (~1h each) at ~23kW, 46kW, 66kW with different PID parameters which seems better.
P = 0.1
I = 0.0015
D = 1.5
which implies a different fast loop gain.
For these new PID parameters, it was impossible to use 33% amplifier ratio => to much power on the PID at the diffuser limit (axis 18).
so, we added a NE02 optical attenuator on the mobile diffuser => we can't use the old recipies anymore. |
Recipies for different FPC power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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For ~ 46kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 20%
- Axis 18 position : -0004710 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.06
I = 0.0007
D = 0.85
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.04V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 3
I = 0.00002
D = 2
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
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Recipies for different FPC power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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For ~ 23kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 15%
- Axis 18 position : -0016014 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.1
I = 0.0016
D = 1.4
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.03V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 5
I = 0.0001
D = 1
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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For ~ 46kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 20%
- Axis 18 position : -0004710 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.06
I = 0.0007
D = 0.85
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.04V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 3
I = 0.00002
D = 2
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
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Recipies for different FPC power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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For ~ 66kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 25%
- Axis 18 position : +0018369 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.1
I = 0.0016
D = 1.4
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.03V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 5
I = 0.0001
D = 1
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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For ~ 23kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 15%
- Axis 18 position : -0016014 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.09
I = 0.0016
D = 1.35
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.03V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 5
I = 0.0001
D = 1
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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For ~ 46kW power in the FP-cavity:
- Alplhanov amplifier ratio : 20%
- Axis 18 position : -0004710 steps
- PID A (for laser/FPC lock) :
input : input a
P = 0.06
I = 0.0007
D = 0.85
Sign : positive
Sampling : fast
filter : off
criterion : input d
upper th. : 10V
lower th. : 0.04V
speed : 100V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 50%
offset : 5V
- PID B (for RF/FPC lock) :
input : input b
P = 3
I = 0.00002
D = 2
Sign : negative
Sampling : mid
filter : off
criterion : input c
upper th. : 0.45V
lower th. : -0.45V
speed : 1V/s
relock mode : none
off mode : hold
range : 20%
offset : 5V
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see "peaks" in the picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
|
|
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
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|
|
|
|
|
|
day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Today, I removed the NKT oscillator from the bunker to put it in the PLIC room.
I locked the FP cavity and obtained 97kW with 33% amplifier ratio, without any alignment, just by changing a little bit the CEP.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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New locking parameters (I got 98kW for 33% amp ratio) :
Axis 18 position : +0009420
P = 0.05
I = 0.0005
D = 0.6
stability seems better than previous parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I removed the NKT oscillator from the bunker to put it in the PLIC room.
I locked the FP cavity and obtained 97kW with 33% amplifier ratio, without any alignment, just by changing a little bit the CEP.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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We had a long run without any lock loss during ~1h with the 23kW recipie in the morning.
during the afternoon, we had some few lock losses but the FPC system was globally quiet and stable,
but at the end of the day, I observed more and more frequent high frequency noise which implies lock losses.
at the same time, Dalkia changed the temperature of the air flow in the bunker.
could it be the reason of the stability degradation or is it because the cavity is more unstable when hot ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
New locking parameters (I got 98kW for 33% amp ratio) :
Axis 18 position : +0009420
P = 0.05
I = 0.0005
D = 0.6
stability seems better than previous parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I removed the NKT oscillator from the bunker to put it in the PLIC room.
I locked the FP cavity and obtained 97kW with 33% amplifier ratio, without any alignment, just by changing a little bit the CEP.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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long run yesterday at relatively low power (~23kW) with double loop (FPC + RF) between 10am and 6pm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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We had a long run without any lock loss during ~1h with the 23kW recipie in the morning.
during the afternoon, we had some few lock losses but the FPC system was globally quiet and stable,
but at the end of the day, I observed more and more frequent high frequency noise which implies lock losses.
at the same time, Dalkia changed the temperature of the air flow in the bunker.
could it be the reason of the stability degradation or is it because the cavity is more unstable when hot ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
New locking parameters (I got 98kW for 33% amp ratio) :
Axis 18 position : +0009420
P = 0.05
I = 0.0005
D = 0.6
stability seems better than previous parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I removed the NKT oscillator from the bunker to put it in the PLIC room.
I locked the FP cavity and obtained 97kW with 33% amplifier ratio, without any alignment, just by changing a little bit the CEP.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
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this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
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today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
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this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
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this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
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major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
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This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
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last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
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we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
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today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
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at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
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the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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day by day run for X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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long run today at relatively nominal power (~90kW) with double loop (FPC + RF) between 13:30am and 6:30pm
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long run yesterday at relatively low power (~23kW) with double loop (FPC + RF) between 10am and 6pm
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We had a long run without any lock loss during ~1h with the 23kW recipie in the morning.
during the afternoon, we had some few lock losses but the FPC system was globally quiet and stable,
but at the end of the day, I observed more and more frequent high frequency noise which implies lock losses.
at the same time, Dalkia changed the temperature of the air flow in the bunker.
could it be the reason of the stability degradation or is it because the cavity is more unstable when hot ?
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New locking parameters (I got 98kW for 33% amp ratio) :
Axis 18 position : +0009420
P = 0.05
I = 0.0005
D = 0.6
stability seems better than previous parameters.
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Today, I removed the NKT oscillator from the bunker to put it in the PLIC room.
I locked the FP cavity and obtained 97kW with 33% amplifier ratio, without any alignment, just by changing a little bit the CEP.
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today, after 1 week of vacation, I was able to easily lock the cavity with 92kW with 33% amp ratio without too much optimizations (no walking alignment).
could it be related to the nice weather we got during this week ?
as in the past we observed more noise when the weather was changing and we had very difficult locking procedure after a simple weekend...
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today, the alignment of FP cavity was so bad that I tuned the 01 mode by error (CEP and alignment)... insead of the 00 mode !!!
I was able to reach ~30kW and was limited at this value, so I used the camera to check what was happening and saw the 01 mode.
so, I moved the lock on a 00 mode and redid a full tuning (CEP and alignment).
I got ~93kW => ok
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this morning, the cavity was pretty misaligned => basic alignment in y direction helps a lot => 93kW for 33% amp ratio.
the Rigol 33MHz generator phase was adjusted : phase ch2 = phase ch1 (40 deg) + 36 deg = 76 deg.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I restarted the lock of the CFP after almost 2 weeks without operation.
after quick alignment and CEP tuning, I got 88kW for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier.
the FPC seems pretty far from the RF frequency (2.8kHz @ 33MHz) but it's possible the present RF frequency has been tuned for 61.5 or 70MeV (the present FPC length is tuned for 50MeV).
Jean-Noel had to reinject some SF6 gas in the section pipe => it immediately produces some lock losses during the whole filling process and even several minutes after he finishes.
this is an interesting correlation with the vibrations from the beam pipe => one needs to install the accelerometer to check the behavior.
but the lock losses were not related to "high frequency" or "20Hz oscillations" noises which are the 2 main processes for lock losses, it was just like some "cuts" in the signals.
I finally got 90kW in the FPC for 33% ratio for the laser amplifier after walking alignment procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today we did x-rays => we got 41 000 pA at maximum and 90kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio.
finally, I changed the strategy for the feeback on RF.
i removed the integration and derivative parameters and reduced the gain parameter :
P=0.25 / I=D=0 => it seems to be more stable => less low frequency oscillations becoming larger and larger during a perturbation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I restarted the cavity after the Christmas shutdown.
everything went fine.
I got ~ 86kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after optimization of the CEP and alignment with walking procedure.
IcePap controllers are OK and the displacements (MOT.03 and MOT.06) let the CFP locked.
I locked also on the RF frequency (I tuned the laser and CFP cavity length) => +4.1ns (C2-C4) between the 10Hz trig (C2) and the 33MHz laser signal (C4)
I observed that the search & relock range on the regulator B plays an important role on the RF locking stability.
so, I increased the previous range +/-0.25V to +/-0.5V.
we have always the 20Hz noise which can be increasing some time but the lock seems more robust.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, Kevin reduced the steering current in the IcePap controllers of the FP cavity motors.
the motor MOT.06 was producing a pattern in the Transmission signal when it was moved and doing a lock loss very often.
so, we changed its current from 0.8A to 0.4A and it fixes the problem => no more systematic lock loss.
so, we changed also the MOT.03 steering current from 0.8A to 0.7A.
on this motor, we have also a false warning about the Low limit switch which seems to be activated (strange because, we are always using it in the positive direction)
Kevin reverted the logic to remove the message.
we obtained 91kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP and alignment tuning.
we did synchronized xray production with a relative delay between laser 33MHz and trigger (CH2-CH4) of +4 ns
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major result of the day: X-ray vertical scan by moving the hexapod
abscise : hexapod position
ordinate : xray flux in asynchronous condition
red curve : continuous injection at 10Hz (the scan lasts for ~5 minutes)
green curve : one single injection (the beam is not extracted).
blue curve : one single injection, ~ 10-15 minutes later
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This morning, I added an amplifier on the 33MHz beating signal in between the mixer+LPF and the scope/Laselock.
it seems to improve the robustness of the RF/FPC lock.
because of this gain, I increased the upper and lower thresholds on the search criterion of the RF/FPC lock from +/-50mV to +250mV/-200mV
=> see the picture of the Laselock parameters.
the optimum phase for X-ray production is roughly +3.6ns between C2 (machine trigger) and C4 (33MHz laser signal).
we have to use the machine at 70MeV with a new frequency at 500.0325MHz / 33.3355MHz.
=> we need to move the FPC tomorrow by roughly 60kHz @ 500MHz.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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last thing we tried :
we removed the threshold on the FPC/RF error signal.
=> we cannot choose automatically the RF bucket anymore (we need to manually let the phase drift slowly and start the lock at the right moment).
=> but the FPC/RF lock seems more robust.
in that case, we have 2 different sources of lock losses:
- the ones dues to the laser or CFP motors move.
even at low speed or in "piezo scan" mode, one observes too fast mouvement that are not properly compensated and involving some phase shift.
- the ones not related to any action.
=> the 20Hz signal seems to increase until it makes the system losing the lock
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we observed that :
- the MOT.03 motor always exhibits some perturbations on the transmitted, reflected and PZT signals (see picture) in contrary to the MOT.06 motor.
does the differences come from the motor relative positions (-900 000 steps for MOT.06 and -100 000 steps for MOT.03) or from the controller configuration ?
- the stability limits (oscillations arise) of the PID for the RF/CFP locks are P = 1 / I = 0.0001 / D = 5
then we put the new PID parameters : P = 0.25 / I = 0.000025 / D = 1
- the 20Hz oscillations are stil arising from time to time
- the lock laser/CFP is pretty robust, one observes more RF/CFP lock losses.
- we removed the 250Hz filter on the RF/CFP error signal to increase the feedback BW but we didn't see a any improvement
- at 5pm, the laser/CFP lock seems as stable as in the morning, then we don't see any change in stability during time.
we loggued CFP power measurement and signals from the cavity (~ 1GB of data)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Alice, we planned to do a long run with ~80kW in the FPC to check if the lock problems are coming from the interaction with the machine or not.
the goal is to check this assumption on a full day comparable with a day of X-ray production.
we started the amplifier at 10am.
during a move of MaY (injection mirrors of the FPC), we observed a sudden total loss of resonances...
the reason was an abnormal displacement of the motor despite the fact the measured position was reasonable.
we already observed an issue like that....
to fix the problem, one just had to move back MaY.
the cavity started to be locked at 11:15am
the RF frequency has been changed to 500.09595MHz equivalent to 33.33973MHz
but we don't have a beating signal @ 500MHz => one will ask to Vincent to fix the issue.
laser motor CH0 : 1.503453 mm
laser moror CH2 : - 50µm
~ 83kW at 12:30pm
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at the begining of the day, we started to get ~81kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio and after ~1h, we got 84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
at the end of the day, we got 89kW without walking alignment.
we tried to improve a bit the robustness of the FPC and RF locks:
see the capture for the new locking parameters.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the RF frequency changed from 500.1003MHz to 500.0913MHz => it reduced by 9kHz @ 500MHz which is equivalent to 600Hz @ 33MHz (we measured 500Hz @ 33MHz). the electron orbit length increased, so we have to increase the cavities length => increase motor values by ~ 68µm.
for the laser cavity : 1.496 560 mm => 1.564 560 mm
the initial values for the motor of the FP cavity are : MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-900 000 steps.
68µm is roughly 11 000 steps (6nm/step) => MOT.03=-130 000 steps and MOT.06=-889 000 steps.
optimum CEP position : -210.8µm => -192µm
I got 80kW in the FP cavity after CEP and walking alignment
then, 82kW after waiting 3h.
then, 84kW after waiting 5h.
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Possible causes for the noise in the FP-cavity system, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics
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list of possible causes of the high frequency noise which makes the system loosing the lock => to be checked.
(if you have some new idea, I will edit the post)
1- Laser
1.1- vibrations on the laser box coming from the optical table / housing
1.2- vibrations coming from the Smaract translation stages (Frep or CEP) inside the laser box
1.3- pressure noise coming from the weather (the laser cavity is sealed) on the laser box
2- Amplifier
2.1- vibrations coming from the fans in the controler crate
2.2- vibrations coming from the chiller (water cooling cavitation)
3- Beam propagation
3.1- vibration noise coming from the housing / the table
3.2- vibration noise coming from the motors of the injection mirrors
4- Fabry-Perot cavity
4.1- pressure noise on the cavity vessels coming from the weather/air cooling
4.2- vibrations coming from the rust on the mechanics
4.3- vibrations of the mirror mounts due to temperature related to cavity power
4.4- vibrations coming from the electron ring mechanics
4.5- "vacuum" index variation coming from local ionization due to the electron beam
4.6- vibrations coming from the far position (related to the middle range) of some mounts and due to the spring of the translations stage.
5- Feedback system / Electronics / CEM
5.1- CEM votage noise on the laser or FPC PZT's
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Possible causes for the noise in the FP-cavity system, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics 
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4.3 - Vibrations of the mirror mounts due to temperature related to cavity power (the electrons machine is OFF)
1) to test this possible issue, we plan to make a run at low power in the FP-cavity, around 10kW, instead of ~90kW as usual.
for that, I will need to change the diffuser position on axis 18 to get the same error signal for the locking.
the initial axis 18 position is +11304
I used the Alphanov amplifier at its standard value : 33%
first, I did a step at 26kW in the FPC by tuning the CEP
at this power, I saw exactly the same kind of behavior with a sudden large high frequency noise which prevent the lock to run properly and which is impossible to compensate.
=> one just have to wait... until it becomes more stable.
then, I went to 13kW in the FPC by tuning the CEP.
- I did the same alignement optimisation than for high power to remove possible coupling to high order modes in the error signal
- I tuned the power in the FPC by changing the CEP => the equivalent LW of the cavity will be different => I got ~ 13kW
- I changed the diffuser position on axis 18 to -23079
- I tuned the PID parameters :
initial => final
P = 0.055 => 0.1
I = 0.0005 => 0.002
D = 0.6 => 1
I started to record a long trend of the FPC power => see attached picture
I still observed the ~20Hz noise and sometime some high frequency noise, but not at a level which prevents the locking system to work.
CONCLUSION :
at this power and with a larger LW (CEP is not optimized), the FPC seems much more stable without any lock loss during 1h !
2) then I will do a test by decreasing the Alphanov amplifier ratio to work at a lower input power but with an optimized CEP.
Now, I optimized the CEP and alignment and reduce the Alphanov amplifier ratio to 15% => 24kW power in the FPC.
on CH2, I got 60mV (when I got 250mV when I'm at 97kW in the FPC) => ratio ~ 4.2 => 97kW / 4,2 ~ 23 kW
I checked that the PID parameters are not over-valuated which can produce a power reduction and the CEP is optimum as well as the alignment.
Axis 18 position : -13188
PID parameters (P = 0.1 / I = 0.002 / D = 1.5)
I started to record a long trend of the FPC power => cf 2nd trend with gradually increasing of the power because of the drift of the CEP + feedback adjustments.
CONCLUSION :
at this power and with nominal LW (CEP is optimized), the FPC seems much more stable without any lock loss during 1h !
3) I found a stable position for FPC around 46kW
I used the recepie for 46kW => after some time, I observed a lot of high frequency noise which induces some lock loss.
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list of possible causes of the high frequency noise which makes the system loosing the lock => to be checked.
(if you have some new idea, I will edit the post)
1- Laser
1.1- vibrations on the laser box coming from the optical table / housing
1.2- vibrations coming from the Smaract translation stages (Frep or CEP) inside the laser box
1.3- pressure noise coming from the weather (the laser cavity is sealed) on the laser box
2- Amplifier
2.1- vibrations coming from the fans in the controler crate
2.2- vibrations coming from the chiller (water cooling cavitation)
3- Beam propagation
3.1- vibration noise coming from the housing / the table
3.2- vibration noise coming from the motors of the injection mirrors
4- Fabry-Perot cavity
4.1- pressure noise on the cavity vessels coming from the weather/air cooling
4.2- vibrations coming from the rust on the mechanics
4.3- vibrations of the mirror mounts due to temperature related to cavity power
4.4- vibrations coming from the electron ring mechanics
4.5- "vacuum" index variation coming from local ionization due to the electron beam
5- Feedback system / Electronics / CEM
5.1- CEM votage noise on the laser or FPC PZT's
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New power record in ThomX cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, we were able to store more than 93kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio |
New power record in ThomX cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, we were able to store more than 94kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 93kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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New power record in ThomX cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, we were able to store more than 95kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 94kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 93kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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New power record in ThomX cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, we were able to store more than 97kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 95kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 94kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 93kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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New power record in ThomX cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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yesterday, we were able to store more than 98kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 97kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 95kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 94kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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today, we were able to store more than 93kW in the FP cavity, always with the same parameter : 33% laser amplifier ratio
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33MHz phase adjustment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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the 33MHz beating signal (phase) is used to start and stop automatically the lock on the 500MHz beating signal.
this 33MHz beating phase has a fixed range (typically +/-0.5V), so it is important to center this beating phase in the middle of its own range when the 500MHz signal is locked
=> tune the 33MHz phase in order to get ~ 0V on 33MHz beating signal when the 500MHz locking is ON.
this can be done by using the python script "Write_Phase_Rigol_33MHz located in the path /tmp_mnt/data/shared/commissioning_scripts/common
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air conditionning in ThomX Bunker, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The temperature slitly increase in thomx Bunker from 23° to 24° during the last day.
The thermalisation of the CFP is very long...
In any case the operation of the CFP is so easy, it seems to be correlated to the weather... tody it's very nice as of hte rest of the week.
The stored power is easily 94 KW and there is not jump or delock problems.
The temperature of the bunker continiusly increase and now we observe some delocking du to high frq perturbations... may be the twe things are correlated. |
air conditionning in ThomX Bunker, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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after the new temperature setting for the bunker air cooling (winter to summer transition), the temperature drop from 24° to 20°C which induced a slight misalignment between the onefive oscillator and the fiber injection.
the amplifier photodiode PD_IN which checks the amplifier power injection drop also from 3mW to 2.885mW... hopefully, it is enough to start the amplifier without realignment.
but bad news, I don't see any transmission of the cavity... to be checked...
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The temperature slitly increase in thomx Bunker from 23° to 24° during the last day.
The thermalisation of the CFP is very long...
In any case the operation of the CFP is so easy, it seems to be correlated to the weather... tody it's very nice as of hte rest of the week.
The stored power is easily 94 KW and there is not jump or delock problems.
The temperature of the bunker continiusly increase and now we observe some delocking du to high frq perturbations... may be the twe things are correlated.
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air conditionning in ThomX Bunker, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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I finally got 93-94kW for 33% amp ratio.
I had to move the FP-cavity length to compensate the temperature change in the bunker.
doing that, I had the message "Low Limit SW pressed" when I tried to move P4z under -98 000 steps !!!
=> so, maybe this number is not the correct steps number and we are much closer to the end than we could expect.
=> could it be the reason for the 20Hz noise related to the too strong springs, as we already observed before ?
in the meantime, I changed the use of the P1z and P4z motors to not face the situation again.
so, P4z will be used to move to higher steps (even if its apparent position seems higher than P1z).
and P1z will be used to move to lower steps.
surprinsingly, the CEP position was almost already optimized...
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after the new temperature setting for the bunker air cooling (winter to summer transition), the temperature drop from 24° to 20°C which induced a slight misalignment between the onefive oscillator and the fiber injection.
the amplifier photodiode PD_IN which checks the amplifier power injection drop also from 3mW to 2.885mW... hopefully, it is enough to start the amplifier without realignment.
but bad news, I don't see any transmission of the cavity... to be checked...
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The temperature slitly increase in thomx Bunker from 23° to 24° during the last day.
The thermalisation of the CFP is very long...
In any case the operation of the CFP is so easy, it seems to be correlated to the weather... tody it's very nice as of hte rest of the week.
The stored power is easily 94 KW and there is not jump or delock problems.
The temperature of the bunker continiusly increase and now we observe some delocking du to high frq perturbations... may be the twe things are correlated.
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Electrons-Photons phase stability measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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we installed a measurement at the IP with the BPM for ion cleaning for electrons and we used a fast photodiode at the output of the FP-cavity and measured with a fast oscilloscope the phase jitter between the 2 signals.
in red, the BPM signal
in blue, the photodiode signal.
on the right of the picture, this is the trend of the phase difference measurement.
in yellow, this is the histogram of this phase difference.
one measured 35ps of FWHM which is equivalent to 15ps rms for a Gaussian distribution. |
Electrons-Photons phase stability measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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the phase between the 500Mhz ring RF oscillator and the electrons is measured on a BPM and is very stable after 2-3ms (<< 6ps, typically) !
in the same time, we can use the residual phase beating after our 500MHz mixer to estimate the phase noise coming from the laser part.
the rms noise of this signal is around 60mV for 1.25V peak (2.5 pk-pk) signal => ~ 50mrad rms
dt = dphi / 2pi * 2ns ~ 15 ps which is the noise measured between electrons and photons at the IP !!!
we clearly see that this rms noise level is correlated with the 20Hz oscillation observed on the FPC feedback signals.
BUT even when this rms phase noise varies, we DO NOT see any effect on the X-ray production at this time,
which means this is not yet a limiting factor.
this observation is confirmed by the X-ray production flux calculation for which the time jitter is "added" to the electron beam size parameter which seems to be dominant.
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we installed a measurement at the IP with the BPM for ion cleaning for electrons and we used a fast photodiode at the output of the FP-cavity and measured with a fast oscilloscope the phase jitter between the 2 signals.
in red, the BPM signal
in blue, the photodiode signal.
on the right of the picture, this is the trend of the phase difference measurement.
in yellow, this is the histogram of this phase difference.
one measured 35ps of FWHM which is equivalent to 15ps rms for a Gaussian distribution.
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New direction for cavity motors, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | software
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from now on, one reverts the FP cavity motors direction to compensate the long drift from the begining of the project.
the motor MOT.06 will be used for the upward direction (presently -1 082 650 steps)
and the motor MOT.03 will be used for the downward direction (presently +37 170 steps)
after CEP and walking alignment tuning, I got quickly 92kW.
the new MOT.06 and MOT.03 positions are : -1 071670 steps and +34 110 steps.
the CEP motor is at +345µm |
Good Xrays production trend, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this afternoon, we succeeded to get a quite long Xray production trend around 15-20 minutes with a flux above 25k on i1. |
strange drift (new effect !?!), posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about software
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today, we had a strange effect :
both the laser and the FP cavity were locked on the RF frequency (500.10045 MHz), and we were producing X-rays but with a slowing (several seconds) fluctuation exactly as the electrons-photons phase was drifting and the fluctuation can goes to 0 Xrays produced even at the "right" phase.
but the ring people says there is no phase fluctuation in their measurements.
and I looked the baseline of the 500MHz beating (which is the synchronisation signal with electrons) and I didn't see any fluctuation either.
we tried 2 other ring frequencies : 500.10030 MHz and 500.1 MHz.
there were still X-rays production fluctuations but with a faster rate.
when we went back to 500.10045 MHz, we found back the same X-rays production fluctions at a slow rate.
to remove this effect, I had to add an integrator gain (I = 1e-6) in the Laselock in the FPC/RF loop.
this integrator was not used (I = 0) in the previous stable X-rays productions....
it means that we have now a slow phase fluctuation.
we have to check if we see these fluctuations in the 500MHz beating signal.
loosing the Xrays means we moved by the packet length dt ~ 50ps which is equivalent to 9° @ 500MHz of fluctuation.
with A= +/-1V signal, it would be equivalent to a drift of ~ A*(2pi*dt/T) ~ 157mV !!!
it is strange we didn't see it => to be checked !!!
conclusion : now, we have to put this I=1e-6 in the FPC/RF loop to get a stable Xray production.
but the locking acquisition works better with I=0.
so we need to remove it before starting to lock and then, when the lock is stable (but the X rays are poor), we need to put I=1e-6 => the Xray flux inscreases dramatically.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics    
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 8x
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 6x
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 7x
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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here is the acquisition from 10:30am to 5:30pm
11k point in 7h => 1.57k points / h
the noise is almost the same during the daylight, a little bit increasing from 1:30pm.
I restarted an acquisition at 5:30pm to check if the noise reduction during the night is repeatable or not....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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here is the same kind of measurement (pk-pk of 1 sec of acquisition) done on the laser PZT when the FP is at 90kW.
it's from 6:20pm to 7:10pm => ~2.4s by point
the minimum values are for the PZT being off.
the maximum values are for PZT scanning or lock loss.
in between, we get the measurements of the perturbations.
at 6:30pm (~250 points), Jean-Noel stopped all the water cooling circuit of ThomX.
at 6:46pm (~650 points), Jean-Noel restarted the main water cooling circuit.
at 7pm (~1000 points), Jean-Noel restarted all the water cooling circuit.
at 7:10pm (~1250 points) => we stopped the acquisition.
conclusion : no clear effect of the water cooling circuit on the locking stability.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the acquisition from 10:30am to 5:30pm
11k point in 7h => 1.57k points / h
the noise is almost the same during the daylight, a little bit increasing from 1:30pm.
I restarted an acquisition at 5:30pm to check if the noise reduction during the night is repeatable or not....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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long term pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer (placed on the optical cavity table, on the marble part close to the laser oscillator) from 5:30pm to 9am => ~ 2.255s / pt
start of the quiet period : ~ 5k pts <=> 8:45pm
3 peaks at ~ 7.5k, 8.5k, 9.5k pts <=> 10:10pm, 10:50pm, 11:30pm
begining of the noise : big peak at ~20.5k pts <=> 6:20am
conclusion : relatively same behavior than the previous measurement made in the same condition except the "quiet" and "wake up" schedule of the noise is not strictly the same.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the same kind of measurement (pk-pk of 1 sec of acquisition) done on the laser PZT when the FP is at 90kW.
it's from 6:20pm to 7:10pm => ~2.4s by point
the minimum values are for the PZT being off.
the maximum values are for PZT scanning or lock loss.
in between, we get the measurements of the perturbations.
at 6:30pm (~250 points), Jean-Noel stopped all the water cooling circuit of ThomX.
at 6:46pm (~650 points), Jean-Noel restarted the main water cooling circuit.
at 7pm (~1000 points), Jean-Noel restarted all the water cooling circuit.
at 7:10pm (~1250 points) => we stopped the acquisition.
conclusion : no clear effect of the water cooling circuit on the locking stability.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the acquisition from 10:30am to 5:30pm
11k point in 7h => 1.57k points / h
the noise is almost the same during the daylight, a little bit increasing from 1:30pm.
I restarted an acquisition at 5:30pm to check if the noise reduction during the night is repeatable or not....
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics   
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I installed the accelerometer on the ground close to one feet of the FP cavity hexapod (see picture) and restarted the acquisition at 6:40pm on 20th of february.
the acquisition corresponds to the night between the 20th and the 21th of february.
23.3k points from 6:40pm to 9am => 2.215s / point
the large peaks in between 2k and 3.5k points correspond to 7:55pm to 8:50pm => some working operation in the bunker (maybe finish the work of the kicker).
one does not observe a clear decrease of the vibrations during the night.
I added a vertical zoom of the acquisition => it seems there is a small decrease during the night but nothing clear.
the last plot shows exactly the same data but with a strong filtering (raw data in blue, filtered data in red).
we see a little bit better the reduction of the vibration during the night.
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long term pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer (placed on the optical cavity table, on the marble part close to the laser oscillator) from 5:30pm to 9am => ~ 2.255s / pt
start of the quiet period : ~ 5k pts <=> 8:45pm
3 peaks at ~ 7.5k, 8.5k, 9.5k pts <=> 10:10pm, 10:50pm, 11:30pm
begining of the noise : big peak at ~20.5k pts <=> 6:20am
conclusion : relatively same behavior than the previous measurement made in the same condition except the "quiet" and "wake up" schedule of the noise is not strictly the same.
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here is the same kind of measurement (pk-pk of 1 sec of acquisition) done on the laser PZT when the FP is at 90kW.
it's from 6:20pm to 7:10pm => ~2.4s by point
the minimum values are for the PZT being off.
the maximum values are for PZT scanning or lock loss.
in between, we get the measurements of the perturbations.
at 6:30pm (~250 points), Jean-Noel stopped all the water cooling circuit of ThomX.
at 6:46pm (~650 points), Jean-Noel restarted the main water cooling circuit.
at 7pm (~1000 points), Jean-Noel restarted all the water cooling circuit.
at 7:10pm (~1250 points) => we stopped the acquisition.
conclusion : no clear effect of the water cooling circuit on the locking stability.
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here is the acquisition from 10:30am to 5:30pm
11k point in 7h => 1.57k points / h
the noise is almost the same during the daylight, a little bit increasing from 1:30pm.
I restarted an acquisition at 5:30pm to check if the noise reduction during the night is repeatable or not....
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here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between accelerometer and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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for this 20Hz oscillation, could it be a natural resonance of the optical table placed on its feet ?
typical mass of the table m ~ 8T
feets :
young modulus of steel E ~ 210 G N/m²
length L ~ 1m
diameter d ~ 10cm
rigidity for 6 feets => k ~ 6. pi.d²/4L E ~ 9.9 G N/m
rough estimation of the oscillation frequency : f = sqrt(k / m) / 2pi ~ 177 Hz
if the rigidity of the real moving feets is lower (~ by a factor 80) than if they were made of plain steel, we are not so far.
to be continued...
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I installed the accelerometer on the ground close to one feet of the FP cavity hexapod (see picture) and restarted the acquisition at 6:40pm on 20th of february.
the acquisition corresponds to the night between the 20th and the 21th of february.
23.3k points from 6:40pm to 9am => 2.215s / point
the large peaks in between 2k and 3.5k points correspond to 7:55pm to 8:50pm => some working operation in the bunker (maybe finish the work of the kicker).
one does not observe a clear decrease of the vibrations during the night.
I added a vertical zoom of the acquisition => it seems there is a small decrease during the night but nothing clear.
the last plot shows exactly the same data but with a strong filtering (raw data in blue, filtered data in red).
we see a little bit better the reduction of the vibration during the night.
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long term pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer (placed on the optical cavity table, on the marble part close to the laser oscillator) from 5:30pm to 9am => ~ 2.255s / pt
start of the quiet period : ~ 5k pts <=> 8:45pm
3 peaks at ~ 7.5k, 8.5k, 9.5k pts <=> 10:10pm, 10:50pm, 11:30pm
begining of the noise : big peak at ~20.5k pts <=> 6:20am
conclusion : relatively same behavior than the previous measurement made in the same condition except the "quiet" and "wake up" schedule of the noise is not strictly the same.
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here is the same kind of measurement (pk-pk of 1 sec of acquisition) done on the laser PZT when the FP is at 90kW.
it's from 6:20pm to 7:10pm => ~2.4s by point
the minimum values are for the PZT being off.
the maximum values are for PZT scanning or lock loss.
in between, we get the measurements of the perturbations.
at 6:30pm (~250 points), Jean-Noel stopped all the water cooling circuit of ThomX.
at 6:46pm (~650 points), Jean-Noel restarted the main water cooling circuit.
at 7pm (~1000 points), Jean-Noel restarted all the water cooling circuit.
at 7:10pm (~1250 points) => we stopped the acquisition.
conclusion : no clear effect of the water cooling circuit on the locking stability.
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here is the acquisition from 10:30am to 5:30pm
11k point in 7h => 1.57k points / h
the noise is almost the same during the daylight, a little bit increasing from 1:30pm.
I restarted an acquisition at 5:30pm to check if the noise reduction during the night is repeatable or not....
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here is the pk-pk measurement of the accelerometer during the whole night.
the recording started at 5pm yesterday and has been stopped this morning at 10am.
one got 28k points in 17 hours => 1.65k points / h
the "last" peak in the evening at 8.5k points is equivalent to 10pm.
the "fisrt" peaks in the morning at 23k points is equivalent to 7am.
I discussed with Jean-Noël but we don't any clear correlation of this schedule with some equipment schedule in ThomX....
I restarted a new acquisition at 10.30am.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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one possible source for this acoustic noise was the vibrations coming from the water cooling of the dipoles which is normally never turned off even when the machine is off.
this afternoon, Kevin turned off the main valve of the water cooling of half of the dipoles (the half on the FPC side), and we recorded the peak-peak value of accelerometer signal on a long trend (~20mn) but we didn't see a clear difference before and after.
I keep recording the accelerometer pk-pk signal during the night in case of one could see something different...
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new plots, with the accelerometer placed directly on the optical cavity table (on the marble part), close to the oscillator.
the correlation seems a bit better....
we would need to put the accelerometer on one foot of the table to check if the table has not some micro-movement or at the IP to check if the water in the dipole are doing some vibrations.
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this morning, I did some new plots with the accelerometer placed on the top of the case of the OneFive laser.
I previously observed with the accelerometer placed on the top of one cavity vessel, the correlation between the accelerometer signal and the PZT noise is pretty good but not 100%.
I will move the accelerometer on the optical cavity table.
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at the end of the day, I moved the accelerometer from the top of the cavity vessel to the top case of the Onefive laser.
I quickly saw again quite strong correlations between the vibrations compensated by the PZT and the accelerometer signal.
when one does a laser motor step which makes a systematic lock loss, one doesn't see any signal on the accelerometer.
=> more measurements have to be done.
I would like also to put also the accelerometer on the mechanics attached to the pipe at the IP.
=> to be discussed to find the best place as a lot of cables, the 2 dipoles and the aluminium sheets around the vacuum stufs don't let a lot of place to put the accelerometer....
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then, I moved the accelerometer on top of the "X-hutch side" vessel, placed directly on the metal top case, inside the housing.
- the "no noise same range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
on can compare the noise level on the accelerometer with the previous post when it was outside on top of the housing.
its noise is much much lower... which means the housing is properly dumping the acoustic noise at this frequency around 20-30Hz.
so, we increase the accelerometer measurement sensitivity to better measure its noise.
- the "no noise new range" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer but with a smaller range.
- the "noise 1,2,3" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with good correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the optical vessel.
- the "noise 1,2,3 not clear" images show the situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise with correlation with accelerometer but the signal level is not the same as before.
this make me think the origin of the noise is maybe not coming from the inside of the optical vessel.
=> conclusion : we see for the first time a correlation between the PZT noise and some vibration/acoustic noise.
now, we have to investigate the precise origin of this noise (or the different sources).
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this morning, I did some measurement with nobody interfering with the tests.
- the "no noise" image shows a standard situation during 10s when there is no noise either on PZT or Accelerometer.
most of the time, we are in this situation.
- the "slaping door" image shows the case where the large igloo door is opened and slaping when it closes.
the accelerometer and the PZT exhibit correlated noise when the door is slaping.
we can see a PZT "recovery" time longer than the perturbation.
but these events are rare and are not the source of the problematic perturbations.
- "noise 1,2,3" images show the typical situation when the PZT start to compensate large noise without any correlation with accelerometer placed on top of the housing.
=> conclusion, some external noise (to the housing) should not be the source of the perturbations on the PZT.
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today I connected a copy of the laser PZT signal to the 2nd scope CH2 (with AC coupling to remove the DC offset) to be able to monitor synchronously the Accelerometer and laser PZT signals.
the accelerometer is still connected to the 2nd scope CH4 and placed on top of the housing.
I filtered both signals in the Labview Signal Express software with a low-pass filter at 30Hz to focus on low frequencies noise (~20Hz).
now, I need to wait to work with the bunker closed to compare with normal operation (if some people work in the same time in the bunker, obviously, we will get some correlation between the accelerometer and laser PZT signals.....)
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I installed an accelerometer setup in the bunker.
presently, the accelerometer is placed on top of the housing and its signal is connected to the 2nd scope (33MHz and 500MHz RF beating) on channel 4.
the FPC is locked to ~90kW.
the accelerometer noise is filtered on the Labview Signal Express software in order to focus on the 20Hz noise.
one applied a RII elliptic 5th order low pass filter at 30Hz.
the 20Hz noise can be seen on the PZT which always compensate for CFP frequency drifts.
figure 1 : example of typical accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) is quite (measurement on 4 seconds)
figure 2 : example of accelerometer filtered noise (yellow curve) when the PZT compensation (green curve) exhibits some 20Hz noise (measurement on 10 seconds)
conclusion : there is no clear evidence of a correlation between accoustic noise outside of the housing (measured by the accelerometer) and the 20Hz noise in the laser PZT compensation.
=> putting the 2 signals on 2 different scopes doesn't help because the slow acquisition done is not synchronous.
next try : use the same scope and put the accelerometer inside the housing, for example on top of one of the FPC vessel.
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correlations between vacuum gauges and lock losses @ 20Hz, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum
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the machine people saw a correlation between BPM jumps and vacuum gauges peaks related to breakdowns in the beam pipe.
these breakdowns could produce some accoustic noise which could be related to our lock losses.
=> we tried to do a corrrelation between our lock losses and the vacuum gauge peaks => WE DON'T SEE any correlation !!! |
CEM noise measurements, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling   
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The goal of these measurements is to check if one can find some correlation between the CFP lock losses observed during a run and some CEM noise in the bunker.
the main issue is coming from a 20Hz noise apearing/disapearing in the laser cavity PZT signal.
is it a real cavity length noise that must be compensated or is it a pickup noise in the error signal which produce some unwanted compensation ?
the second issue (apearing much less often) is a higher frequency noise visible mainly in the transmission signal of the CFP which becomes wider and noisy during 1-2 seconds.
This morning, I installed a simple wire loop all around the table (the machine is OFF).
this wire is connected to the wire of a BNC connector at one end and to the ground of the same BNC connector at the other end to form a loop.
this BNC connector is connected to a 1kHz low pass filter to remove high frequency CEM noises and connected to a 10-1000 variable gain amplifier, plugged to the CH3 of the CFP scope (instead of the PDH/PZT-CAV signal).
I locked the CFP above 80kW after tuning the CEP.
I took several pictures to illustrate what I observed :
- on the right, the scope signal in time domain (blue = TRANS / green = PZT laser / cyan = REFLECT / pink = LOOP noise)
- on the left, the spectral analysis in frequency domain (red = PZT laser / white = LOOP noise)
in these 3 measurements, I don't do anything to the CFP, I just wait for the signals.
1) normal condition : see picture "Without Noise @ 20Hz"
the PZT signal in time domain is relatively flat and the 20Hz noise is barely visible in frequency domain.
we don't see any correlation with the LOOP noise for which one can see clear 50Hz and 100Hz peaks.
2) 20Hz noise condition : see picture "With Noise @ 20Hz"
the PZT signal in time and frequency domain exhibit a clear 20Hz oscillation.
the REFLECT and TRANS signals are also correlated to this 20Hz oscillation.
but still no correlation with the LOOP noise in time or frequency domain.
3) 20Hz noise lock loss condition : see picture "Delock @ 20Hz"
because of the lock loss the spectral analysis of the PZT signal is meaningless,
but in time domain, one can clearly see the growth of the 20Hz signal, inducing large noise on TRANS and REFLECT signal but still no correlation with the LOOP noise.
Conclusion : the 20Hz noise seems not related to any CEM noisy signal but more probably to a real mechanical noise in the CFP (not in the laser cavity because it would be seen in the phase noise measurements).
in this measurement, I tried to produce a tone around 400Hz with my voice, close to the FP cavity.
it is difficult to right volume as the cavity can easily lose the lock.
4) Voice noise condition : see picture "Voice noise @ 400Hz"
here, I changed the spectral span to 500Hz.
one can see a small bump in frequency domain around 400Hz due to the accoustic noise in the PZT signal.
the general shape of the PZT spectral signal is maybe related to the PID parameters : one can see more signal at lower frequencies.
in time domain, one can see TRANS and REFLECT signals are more noisy than before and these signals shapes seems identical to what has been observed when one has lock loss due to high frequency noise.
maybe we could put a mic in the bunker, connected to one scope to check if sometime one doesn't have much more accoustic noise...
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CEM noise measurements, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling
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This afternoon, we started almost all the parts of the machine with Vincent and Nicolas, and we didn't see any change in the Loop noise signal.
we saw only a peak comb at 10Hz on the Loop noise signal when the septum is ON. the amplitude of the peaks is then related to the voltage on the septum.
but we still don't see any noise correlation on the PZT signal.
the global conclusion about CEM noise is it is not related to laser PZT noise.
if the 20Hz oscillation is coming from a mechanical unstability in the CFP, we should be able to trigger it by moving the longitudinal motors of the CFP.
we tried also to move the MOT.03 and MOT.06 motors and we didn't see any clear correlation with the 20Hz oscillation.
the 20Hz oscillation could come from the CTA pressure variations on the housing => we can try to trigger the oscillation on the housing.
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The goal of these measurements is to check if one can find some correlation between the CFP lock losses observed during a run and some CEM noise in the bunker.
the main issue is coming from a 20Hz noise apearing/disapearing in the laser cavity PZT signal.
is it a real cavity length noise that must be compensated or is it a pickup noise in the error signal which produce some unwanted compensation ?
the second issue (apearing much less often) is a higher frequency noise visible mainly in the transmission signal of the CFP which becomes wider and noisy during 1-2 seconds.
This morning, I installed a simple wire loop all around the table (the machine is OFF).
this wire is connected to the wire of a BNC connector at one end and to the ground of the same BNC connector at the other end to form a loop.
this BNC connector is connected to a 1kHz low pass filter to remove high frequency CEM noises and connected to a 10-1000 variable gain amplifier, plugged to the CH3 of the CFP scope (instead of the PDH/PZT-CAV signal).
I locked the CFP above 80kW after tuning the CEP.
I took several pictures to illustrate what I observed :
- on the right, the scope signal in time domain (blue = TRANS / green = PZT laser / cyan = REFLECT / pink = LOOP noise)
- on the left, the spectral analysis in frequency domain (red = PZT laser / white = LOOP noise)
in these 3 measurements, I don't do anything to the CFP, I just wait for the signals.
1) normal condition : see picture "Without Noise @ 20Hz"
the PZT signal in time domain is relatively flat and the 20Hz noise is barely visible in frequency domain.
we don't see any correlation with the LOOP noise for which one can see clear 50Hz and 100Hz peaks.
2) 20Hz noise condition : see picture "With Noise @ 20Hz"
the PZT signal in time and frequency domain exhibit a clear 20Hz oscillation.
the REFLECT and TRANS signals are also correlated to this 20Hz oscillation.
but still no correlation with the LOOP noise in time or frequency domain.
3) 20Hz noise lock loss condition : see picture "Delock @ 20Hz"
because of the lock loss the spectral analysis of the PZT signal is meaningless,
but in time domain, one can clearly see the growth of the 20Hz signal, inducing large noise on TRANS and REFLECT signal but still no correlation with the LOOP noise.
Conclusion : the 20Hz noise seems not related to any CEM noisy signal but more probably to a real mechanical noise in the CFP (not in the laser cavity because it would be seen in the phase noise measurements).
in this measurement, I tried to produce a tone around 400Hz with my voice, close to the FP cavity.
it is difficult to right volume as the cavity can easily lose the lock.
4) Voice noise condition : see picture "Voice noise @ 400Hz"
here, I changed the spectral span to 500Hz.
one can see a small bump in frequency domain around 400Hz due to the accoustic noise in the PZT signal.
the general shape of the PZT spectral signal is maybe related to the PID parameters : one can see more signal at lower frequencies.
in time domain, one can see TRANS and REFLECT signals are more noisy than before and these signals shapes seems identical to what has been observed when one has lock loss due to high frequency noise.
maybe we could put a mic in the bunker, connected to one scope to check if sometime one doesn't have much more accoustic noise...
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Checking the amplifier power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, with Daniele, we checked the amplifier power, right after the CVBG (the power meter has to be placed on a metal plate above the large table hole), and just at the input of the FP cavity, after the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates (the power meter has to be placed on flat beam dump+ Thorlabs beam dump + V metallic mount to be at the right height).
we compared with the power measured the 9th of september : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/356
the 3 collumns are the measurement close to the CVBG on 9th of september / same position today / just befor the FPC today
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W) (new) power @ CVBG (new) power @ FPC ratio FPC/CVBG power (%)
10 0.91 0.93 0.83 89.2
20 8.6 8.6 8.0 93.0
30 16.7 16.9 15.8 93.5
40 25.5 25.6 24.0 93.7
50 34.5 34.6 32.5 93.9
60 42.5 42.5 39.5 92.9
70 50.0 50.0 45.0 90.0
we observed with the viewer the beam on the powermeter.
at 70% of amplifier ratio, the beam size is as big as the powermeter detector.
then, the 93% to 90% transport efficiency drop could come from this "too small" powermeter detector.
we observed also at this power ratio (70%) that the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates were not perfectly centered and we burn a part of the platic mount at this power.
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Checking the amplifier power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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we did a long term run (25 mn) with the powermeter located at the FPC position at 33% amplifier ratio.
the initial power was 18W .
then, it goes to 18.5W in 10 minutes, then 5 minutes later, it goes to 18.3W and stay stable until the end the run.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, with Daniele, we checked the amplifier power, right after the CVBG (the power meter has to be placed on a metal plate above the large table hole), and just at the input of the FP cavity, after the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates (the power meter has to be placed on flat beam dump+ Thorlabs beam dump + V metallic mount to be at the right height).
we compared with the power measured the 9th of september : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/356
the 3 collumns are the measurement close to the CVBG on 9th of september / same position today / just befor the FPC today
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W) (new) power @ CVBG (new) power @ FPC ratio FPC/CVBG power (%)
10 0.91 0.93 0.83 89.2
20 8.6 8.6 8.0 93.0
30 16.7 16.9 15.8 93.5
40 25.5 25.6 24.0 93.7
50 34.5 34.6 32.5 93.9
60 42.5 42.5 39.5 92.9
70 50.0 50.0 45.0 90.0
we observed with the viewer the beam on the powermeter.
at 70% of amplifier ratio, the beam size is as big as the powermeter detector.
then, the 93% to 90% transport efficiency drop could come from this "too small" powermeter detector.
we observed also at this power ratio (70%) that the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates were not perfectly centered and we burn a part of the platic mount at this power.
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Checking the amplifier power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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I put back and aligned the 1/2 waveplate only and I get 71kW max after its optimization and optimizing the CEP and alignment (without walking procedure).
this waveplate change a lot the reflected power seen on the CH2 of the scope.
to be continued this afternoon...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we did a long term run (25 mn) with the powermeter located at the FPC position at 33% amplifier ratio.
the initial power was 18W .
then, it goes to 18.5W in 10 minutes, then 5 minutes later, it goes to 18.3W and stay stable until the end the run.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, with Daniele, we checked the amplifier power, right after the CVBG (the power meter has to be placed on a metal plate above the large table hole), and just at the input of the FP cavity, after the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates (the power meter has to be placed on flat beam dump+ Thorlabs beam dump + V metallic mount to be at the right height).
we compared with the power measured the 9th of september : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/356
the 3 collumns are the measurement close to the CVBG on 9th of september / same position today / just befor the FPC today
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W) (new) power @ CVBG (new) power @ FPC ratio FPC/CVBG power (%)
10 0.91 0.93 0.83 89.2
20 8.6 8.6 8.0 93.0
30 16.7 16.9 15.8 93.5
40 25.5 25.6 24.0 93.7
50 34.5 34.6 32.5 93.9
60 42.5 42.5 39.5 92.9
70 50.0 50.0 45.0 90.0
we observed with the viewer the beam on the powermeter.
at 70% of amplifier ratio, the beam size is as big as the powermeter detector.
then, the 93% to 90% transport efficiency drop could come from this "too small" powermeter detector.
we observed also at this power ratio (70%) that the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates were not perfectly centered and we burn a part of the platic mount at this power.
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Checking the amplifier power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, we put back the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates and after a long alignment/angle tuning/CEP optimization process, we hardly got 80-81kW in the cavity for 33% amplifier ratio. the transmission photodiode is then ~ 7.5 divisions (500mV/division) on the scope.
BUT during the 1/2 and 1/4 waveplate angle tuning process, we clearly saw:
- a reflection signal level which is very sensitive to the input polarization
- a coupling which can be almost zero with ~70kW inside the cavity
- the more important: ~9.5 divisions (500mV/division) on the scope with only 70-75kW in the powermeter
=> which device should we believe ?
the problem is all these photodiodes (reflection, error signal, transmission) and powermeter are aligned with mirrors which seem to be sensitive to the polarization state of the beam... and for the "output" beam side of the cavity, we cannot remove the mirrors because of the mechanics of the cavity which prevent a direct view of the ports. for the "input" beam side of the cavity, the output port is used for the cavity beam size measurement with a Basler camera.
we have to think to how to solve this issue !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I put back and aligned the 1/2 waveplate only and I get 71kW max after its optimization and optimizing the CEP and alignment (without walking procedure).
this waveplate change a lot the reflected power seen on the CH2 of the scope.
to be continued this afternoon...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we did a long term run (25 mn) with the powermeter located at the FPC position at 33% amplifier ratio.
the initial power was 18W .
then, it goes to 18.5W in 10 minutes, then 5 minutes later, it goes to 18.3W and stay stable until the end the run.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, with Daniele, we checked the amplifier power, right after the CVBG (the power meter has to be placed on a metal plate above the large table hole), and just at the input of the FP cavity, after the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates (the power meter has to be placed on flat beam dump+ Thorlabs beam dump + V metallic mount to be at the right height).
we compared with the power measured the 9th of september : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/356
the 3 collumns are the measurement close to the CVBG on 9th of september / same position today / just befor the FPC today
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W) (new) power @ CVBG (new) power @ FPC ratio FPC/CVBG power (%)
10 0.91 0.93 0.83 89.2
20 8.6 8.6 8.0 93.0
30 16.7 16.9 15.8 93.5
40 25.5 25.6 24.0 93.7
50 34.5 34.6 32.5 93.9
60 42.5 42.5 39.5 92.9
70 50.0 50.0 45.0 90.0
we observed with the viewer the beam on the powermeter.
at 70% of amplifier ratio, the beam size is as big as the powermeter detector.
then, the 93% to 90% transport efficiency drop could come from this "too small" powermeter detector.
we observed also at this power ratio (70%) that the 1/4 and 1/2 waveplates were not perfectly centered and we burn a part of the platic mount at this power.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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This afternoon, we scanned the optical table vertically with the hexapod in asynchronous mode to find its optimum position, looking at the X-ray production.
then, we searched for the correct bucket and phase in the bucket thanks to the Kevin script on the 500MHz and the 33MHz phases.
we got relatively easily some stable X-rays.
on the gain "0" on the current amplifier of the X-rays photodiode, we got 15 000 pA (380k Xrays / pA => 5.7.10^9 Xrays).
but we saw, when the cathode charge was fluctuating, that we could be saturated above 20 000 pA !
the power in the cavity was ~84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
the command to launch the X-rays measurement window is:
taurustrend -r 100 /XLI/OP/TMD.01/I1
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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Today, after setting the locking parameters, I got 80kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP tuning (Smaract CH2 ~ -423.5µm) and alignment.
maybe the alignment has to be improved by some walking procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This afternoon, we scanned the optical table vertically with the hexapod in asynchronous mode to find its optimum position, looking at the X-ray production.
then, we searched for the correct bucket and phase in the bucket thanks to the Kevin script on the 500MHz and the 33MHz phases.
we got relatively easily some stable X-rays.
on the gain "0" on the current amplifier of the X-rays photodiode, we got 15 000 pA (380k Xrays / pA => 5.7.10^9 Xrays).
but we saw, when the cathode charge was fluctuating, that we could be saturated above 20 000 pA !
the power in the cavity was ~84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
the command to launch the X-rays measurement window is:
taurustrend -r 100 /XLI/OP/TMD.01/I1
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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this morning, I did some walking procedure and I got 82kW in the FPC with 33% amplifier ratio (after CEP optimization too).
but when I move the FP cavity motors to adjust the frequency, I cannot keep this power and it is reduced.
could it be we get a stronger correlation between axis than before in the mechanics has more rust than before ?
I'm able to keep the power quite easily with a stable phase related to the 33MHz RF generator,
so, we are ready to produce X-rays again.
we could do also a measurement of the amplifier power vs ratio, as maybe it reduced a bit which could explain why we have this small power drop compare to before.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after setting the locking parameters, I got 80kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP tuning (Smaract CH2 ~ -423.5µm) and alignment.
maybe the alignment has to be improved by some walking procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This afternoon, we scanned the optical table vertically with the hexapod in asynchronous mode to find its optimum position, looking at the X-ray production.
then, we searched for the correct bucket and phase in the bucket thanks to the Kevin script on the 500MHz and the 33MHz phases.
we got relatively easily some stable X-rays.
on the gain "0" on the current amplifier of the X-rays photodiode, we got 15 000 pA (380k Xrays / pA => 5.7.10^9 Xrays).
but we saw, when the cathode charge was fluctuating, that we could be saturated above 20 000 pA !
the power in the cavity was ~84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
the command to launch the X-rays measurement window is:
taurustrend -r 100 /XLI/OP/TMD.01/I1
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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this morning, I did some walking procedure and CEP alignment to get ~80kW in the FPC with 33% amplifier ratio.
we have to check if this power drop comes from:
- a laser amplifier power drop
- or related to some cavity axis shift which could change the cavity gain due to L-shapes
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I did some walking procedure and I got 82kW in the FPC with 33% amplifier ratio (after CEP optimization too).
but when I move the FP cavity motors to adjust the frequency, I cannot keep this power and it is reduced.
could it be we get a stronger correlation between axis than before in the mechanics has more rust than before ?
I'm able to keep the power quite easily with a stable phase related to the 33MHz RF generator,
so, we are ready to produce X-rays again.
we could do also a measurement of the amplifier power vs ratio, as maybe it reduced a bit which could explain why we have this small power drop compare to before.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after setting the locking parameters, I got 80kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP tuning (Smaract CH2 ~ -423.5µm) and alignment.
maybe the alignment has to be improved by some walking procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This afternoon, we scanned the optical table vertically with the hexapod in asynchronous mode to find its optimum position, looking at the X-ray production.
then, we searched for the correct bucket and phase in the bucket thanks to the Kevin script on the 500MHz and the 33MHz phases.
we got relatively easily some stable X-rays.
on the gain "0" on the current amplifier of the X-rays photodiode, we got 15 000 pA (380k Xrays / pA => 5.7.10^9 Xrays).
but we saw, when the cathode charge was fluctuating, that we could be saturated above 20 000 pA !
the power in the cavity was ~84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
the command to launch the X-rays measurement window is:
taurustrend -r 100 /XLI/OP/TMD.01/I1
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Optimizing lock parameters for stable X-ray production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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the RF frequency is now 500.1003MHz which is equivalent (if divided by 15) to 33.34002MHz.
the frequency has to be changed by ~2kHz @33MHz <=> ~550µm /2 for one motor.
I changed the laser and the FP cavities frequency.
for the laser frequency, the smaract motor CH1 is at 1.500627m.
for the FPC frequency, the plane mirror motors are at MOT.03= - 123 130 steps and MOT.06
BE CARREFUL, when the offset frequency is large, as we measure it on a scope with a beat frequency, if the scope window is too large,
one gets some stromboscope effect and one measures a lower frequency depending on the number of points in the window.
we got ~81kW for 33% amplifier ratio
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this morning, I did some walking procedure and CEP alignment to get ~80kW in the FPC with 33% amplifier ratio.
we have to check if this power drop comes from:
- a laser amplifier power drop
- or related to some cavity axis shift which could change the cavity gain due to L-shapes
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this morning, I did some walking procedure and I got 82kW in the FPC with 33% amplifier ratio (after CEP optimization too).
but when I move the FP cavity motors to adjust the frequency, I cannot keep this power and it is reduced.
could it be we get a stronger correlation between axis than before in the mechanics has more rust than before ?
I'm able to keep the power quite easily with a stable phase related to the 33MHz RF generator,
so, we are ready to produce X-rays again.
we could do also a measurement of the amplifier power vs ratio, as maybe it reduced a bit which could explain why we have this small power drop compare to before.
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Today, after setting the locking parameters, I got 80kW in the FPC for 33% amplifier ratio after CEP tuning (Smaract CH2 ~ -423.5µm) and alignment.
maybe the alignment has to be improved by some walking procedure.
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This afternoon, we scanned the optical table vertically with the hexapod in asynchronous mode to find its optimum position, looking at the X-ray production.
then, we searched for the correct bucket and phase in the bucket thanks to the Kevin script on the 500MHz and the 33MHz phases.
we got relatively easily some stable X-rays.
on the gain "0" on the current amplifier of the X-rays photodiode, we got 15 000 pA (380k Xrays / pA => 5.7.10^9 Xrays).
but we saw, when the cathode charge was fluctuating, that we could be saturated above 20 000 pA !
the power in the cavity was ~84kW after CEP and alignment tuning.
the command to launch the X-rays measurement window is:
taurustrend -r 100 /XLI/OP/TMD.01/I1
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This morning, I wanted to test quickly if the Smaract motors can be used in open loop instead of closed loop or in piezo scan.
the goal is to do very fine steps without to much vibrations (like with piezo scan mode) but with the full motor range (the piezo scan mode has a very limited range).
I can check what happens to the 33MHz beating frequency between the laser and the RF frequency without the laser amplifier or the lock of the FP-cavity.
1Hz of beating freqency variation is equivalent to 270nm of round-trip length, which is 135nm of motor displacement !
=> the full range of the piezo scan mode is difficult to estimate because the measurement sensitivity is not good enough but around 5Hz.
=> 1350nm in closed loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz => 135nm is equivalent to 1Hz => ok
=> 1 step in open loop is equivalent to ~ 10Hz !!! => this is a way too coarse tuning !!!! => cannot be used unless one finds a way to set the motion differently in the settings parameters.
but usually, the settings parameters are used only to tune the speed, not the step size.
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Today with Daniele and Alice, we operated to cavity.
we obtained 84kW for 33% of amplifier ratio.
we had to tune the CEP @ -565µm and the FP-cavity alignment.
then we locked properly the FP-cavity on the ring RF frequency.
we quite easily relock with the correct phase when we are loosing the lock.
the ThomX machine was running during these 2 locks, so we are ready for doing X-rays again.
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here are the (good) lock parameters used this morning.
for the RF/FPC lock, the 33MHz beating signal used to select the right bucket is 1Vpp
=> beating signal : V0 . sin(phi) with V0=0.5V.
to discrimate a 500MHz bucket, we need to get dV < V0 dphi.
dphi = 2pi / 15 = 420 mrad => dV < 0.2 V => dV < +/- 0.1V
we used dV = +/- 0.02V but perharps we can relax the constraint.
we also reduced the RF scanning speed at 0.1V/s to let the system find the right phase when the system is slowly drifting.
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Onefive 33MHz modelock loss, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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On Friday 11th of October, due to the Yvette flooding, all the AC power of ThomX have been shut down.
After the shutdown, I had to restart the Onefive oscillator but the laser modelock was lost.
I had to do a step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)
After the step, the laser was mode-locking again, and I put it back in the original position at a much lower speed, ~10µm/s, to prevent a new modelock loss.
the power detected by the laser amplifier software is still above 3mW! => OK
Surprisingly, the laser amplifier software is not able to detect the oscillator frequency.
hopefully, the internal photodiode of the oscillator is sent to the CH4 of the R&S scope (192.168.229.21)
and we measured a correct 30ns of period, corresponding to 33MHz.
Because all the safety procedures are not fulfilled, the laser amplifier is not granted to start.
Maybe it is the Reason for the lack of measurement => to be verified later
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Onefive 33MHz modelock loss, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning, I verified the reason why the seeder frequency was not displayed on the amplifier software screen:
one needs to start the amplifier (even at 0%) to see the seeder frequency !!!
now, we have 33.371MHz as expected ! => OK
the last thing to do is to tune again the PDH demodulation frequency, as the generator has been shut off during the AC shut down.
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On Friday 11th of October, due to the Yvette flooding, all the AC power of ThomX have been shut down.
After the shutdown, I had to restart the Onefive oscillator but the laser modelock was lost.
I had to do a step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)
After the step, the laser was mode-locking again, and I put it back in the original position at a much lower speed, ~10µm/s, to prevent a new modelock loss.
the power detected by the laser amplifier software is still above 3mW! => OK
Surprisingly, the laser amplifier software is not able to detect the oscillator frequency.
hopefully, the internal photodiode of the oscillator is sent to the CH4 of the R&S scope (192.168.229.21)
and we measured a correct 30ns of period, corresponding to 33MHz.
Because all the safety procedures are not fulfilled, the laser amplifier is not granted to start.
Maybe it is the Reason for the lack of measurement => to be verified later
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Onefive 33MHz modelock loss, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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After the new Yvette flooding of the last week and the consecutive AC-shut down, I restarted this morning the laser with the same procedure (step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)).
now, we have again 33.371MHz and 3.1mW input power as expected ! => OK
the last thing to do is to tune again the PDH demodulation frequency, as the generator has been shut off during the AC shut down.
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This morning, I verified the reason why the seeder frequency was not displayed on the amplifier software screen:
one needs to start the amplifier (even at 0%) to see the seeder frequency !!!
now, we have 33.371MHz as expected ! => OK
the last thing to do is to tune again the PDH demodulation frequency, as the generator has been shut off during the AC shut down.
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On Friday 11th of October, due to the Yvette flooding, all the AC power of ThomX have been shut down.
After the shutdown, I had to restart the Onefive oscillator but the laser modelock was lost.
I had to do a step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)
After the step, the laser was mode-locking again, and I put it back in the original position at a much lower speed, ~10µm/s, to prevent a new modelock loss.
the power detected by the laser amplifier software is still above 3mW! => OK
Surprisingly, the laser amplifier software is not able to detect the oscillator frequency.
hopefully, the internal photodiode of the oscillator is sent to the CH4 of the R&S scope (192.168.229.21)
and we measured a correct 30ns of period, corresponding to 33MHz.
Because all the safety procedures are not fulfilled, the laser amplifier is not granted to start.
Maybe it is the Reason for the lack of measurement => to be verified later
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Onefive 33MHz modelock loss, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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For the modulation/demodulation generator for the PDH signal,
after a power shutdown, on can :
1) restart the generator to get the correct parameters:
CH1:3Vrms on 50 ohms @ 8.4MHz (demod)
CH2: 100mVrms on 50 ohms @ 8.4MHz (modulation on EOM)
2) do an "Align phase" on the generator
3) put 270° on CH2 (0° on CH1) to get the max Error signal
and use a "positive" sign on the Laselock : cf https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/365
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After the new Yvette flooding of the last week and the consecutive AC-shut down, I restarted this morning the laser with the same procedure (step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)).
now, we have again 33.371MHz and 3.1mW input power as expected ! => OK
the last thing to do is to tune again the PDH demodulation frequency, as the generator has been shut off during the AC shut down.
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This morning, I verified the reason why the seeder frequency was not displayed on the amplifier software screen:
one needs to start the amplifier (even at 0%) to see the seeder frequency !!!
now, we have 33.371MHz as expected ! => OK
the last thing to do is to tune again the PDH demodulation frequency, as the generator has been shut off during the AC shut down.
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On Friday 11th of October, due to the Yvette flooding, all the AC power of ThomX have been shut down.
After the shutdown, I had to restart the Onefive oscillator but the laser modelock was lost.
I had to do a step of 1mm at 10mm/s with the Smaract motor on the rep rate channel (CH1)
After the step, the laser was mode-locking again, and I put it back in the original position at a much lower speed, ~10µm/s, to prevent a new modelock loss.
the power detected by the laser amplifier software is still above 3mW! => OK
Surprisingly, the laser amplifier software is not able to detect the oscillator frequency.
hopefully, the internal photodiode of the oscillator is sent to the CH4 of the R&S scope (192.168.229.21)
and we measured a correct 30ns of period, corresponding to 33MHz.
Because all the safety procedures are not fulfilled, the laser amplifier is not granted to start.
Maybe it is the Reason for the lack of measurement => to be verified later
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Characterizing Focus Tunable Lens, posted by Fatematuj Johora at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Yesterday Ronic and I worked on the high laser power measurements with the Vertical set-up of the Focus Tunable Lens. We went upto 38W@4 dpt at the begining and then also changed the focal power at 38W.
Observation:
1. We observed nice rings @38W 4dpt, maybe it hits some optics we have to check.
2. We also observed flactuations of power for two adjacent index of the beam profiler when we increase the laser power, which we need to understand.
3. We could see that the vertical deformation is not present for this set-up, we could remove the effect of gravity by this set-up. |
Finding correct motors position and parameters to keep the lock during a move, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics
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this morning, I try to find a new region for MOT.03 and MOT.06 where we can move them without unlocking the cavity.
I started from the position:
MOT06 : ~ -785 000
MOT03 : ~ -200 000
and I do -10 000 steps (dz = 10k x 6nm = 60µm) at a time on both motors.
previously a good region for MOT.06 was -900 000 !
I moved also the laser cavity by 40µm to cancel the beating with the RF frequency.
MOT06 : ~ -795 000
MOT03 : ~ -191 000
Max power after optimazing the CEP ~ 65kW => I need to realign => 78kW
I need to increase the D parameter on the PID to compensate the (85kW / 78kW ratio).
I changed the MOT.03 and MOT.06 speed to 30steps/s => it seems a bit better.
but I still see some lock losses during a move.
.... to be continued...
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Finding correct motors position and parameters to keep the lock during a move, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics
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this morning with Daniele, we did a quite long run with this motor position and it seems we don't lose the lock too much.
the motor positions are:
MOT.03 (M4): -186 500 steps
MOT.06 (M1): -797 500 steps
we got 85kW after CEP optimization and rough alignment optimization.
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this morning, I try to find a new region for MOT.03 and MOT.06 where we can move them without unlocking the cavity.
I started from the position:
MOT06 : ~ -785 000
MOT03 : ~ -200 000
and I do -10 000 steps (dz = 10k x 6nm = 60µm) at a time on both motors.
previously a good region for MOT.06 was -900 000 !
I moved also the laser cavity by 40µm to cancel the beating with the RF frequency.
MOT06 : ~ -795 000
MOT03 : ~ -191 000
Max power after optimazing the CEP ~ 65kW => I need to realign => 78kW
I need to increase the D parameter on the PID to compensate the (85kW / 78kW ratio).
I changed the MOT.03 and MOT.06 speed to 30steps/s => it seems a bit better.
but I still see some lock losses during a move.
.... to be continued...
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software 
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
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this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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amplifier power measurement before the compressor CVBG.
we used a mirror in between the amplifier output and the compressor + a 2-mirror periscope to match the powermeter height.
amp ratio (%) power (W)
0 0.7
10 1.65
20 13
30 25
40 37.7
50 50.5
60 62
70 74
80 86
90 99
100 110
we had an alarm @100% of amplifier ratio => the reason is not clear... maybe it's coming from a discrepency between some internal measurement and the expected value.
we checked the power after the alarm => still OK
conclusion, the amplifier seems to be OK... we need to redo the alignment of the compressor CVBG.
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After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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after redoing the alignment of the CVBG, we got back the initial power in the FPC (87kW)
now, I checked the RF locking signals on the 2nd oscilloscope.
I get a strange ratio between the 33MHz beating and the 500MHz beating signals.
beat @ 33MHz ~ 40kHz !
beat @ 500MHz ~ 700Hz !
maybe the 33MHz generator frequency is not matching the 500MHz RF frequency ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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amplifier power measurement before the compressor CVBG.
we used a mirror in between the amplifier output and the compressor + a 2-mirror periscope to match the powermeter height.
amp ratio (%) power (W)
0 0.7
10 1.65
20 13
30 25
40 37.7
50 50.5
60 62
70 74
80 86
90 99
100 110
we had an alarm @100% of amplifier ratio => the reason is not clear... maybe it's coming from a discrepency between some internal measurement and the expected value.
we checked the power after the alarm => still OK
conclusion, the amplifier seems to be OK... we need to redo the alignment of the compressor CVBG.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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now, the Ring RF frequency is set to 500.067MHz.
so the CFP/laser frequency should be 500.067MHz/15 = 33.3378MHz.
the frequency was set to 33.378MHz !!! => it explains the frequency shift only on the 33MHz beating => I corrected the frequency on the generator and informed Nicolas Delerue.
=> now, I can try to lock the CFP to the RF frequency.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after redoing the alignment of the CVBG, we got back the initial power in the FPC (87kW)
now, I checked the RF locking signals on the 2nd oscilloscope.
I get a strange ratio between the 33MHz beating and the 500MHz beating signals.
beat @ 33MHz ~ 40kHz !
beat @ 500MHz ~ 700Hz !
maybe the 33MHz generator frequency is not matching the 500MHz RF frequency ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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amplifier power measurement before the compressor CVBG.
we used a mirror in between the amplifier output and the compressor + a 2-mirror periscope to match the powermeter height.
amp ratio (%) power (W)
0 0.7
10 1.65
20 13
30 25
40 37.7
50 50.5
60 62
70 74
80 86
90 99
100 110
we had an alarm @100% of amplifier ratio => the reason is not clear... maybe it's coming from a discrepency between some internal measurement and the expected value.
we checked the power after the alarm => still OK
conclusion, the amplifier seems to be OK... we need to redo the alignment of the compressor CVBG.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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I changed a little bit the locking parameters (see picture) for the RF/FPC loop and it locked rapidely.
I asked Vincent to connect on the same scope the synchro signals to check if the FPC lock was OK => he connected 33MHz signals coming from the laser and from the 33MHz RF generator.
=> the signals are not locked even when the FPC seems to be locked to the RF.
=> it can be normal because he forgot to connect also the synchro trigger signal which gives the moment of synchronization of the machine... to be finished on Monday.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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now, the Ring RF frequency is set to 500.067MHz.
so the CFP/laser frequency should be 500.067MHz/15 = 33.3378MHz.
the frequency was set to 33.378MHz !!! => it explains the frequency shift only on the 33MHz beating => I corrected the frequency on the generator and informed Nicolas Delerue.
=> now, I can try to lock the CFP to the RF frequency.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
after redoing the alignment of the CVBG, we got back the initial power in the FPC (87kW)
now, I checked the RF locking signals on the 2nd oscilloscope.
I get a strange ratio between the 33MHz beating and the 500MHz beating signals.
beat @ 33MHz ~ 40kHz !
beat @ 500MHz ~ 700Hz !
maybe the 33MHz generator frequency is not matching the 500MHz RF frequency ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
amplifier power measurement before the compressor CVBG.
we used a mirror in between the amplifier output and the compressor + a 2-mirror periscope to match the powermeter height.
amp ratio (%) power (W)
0 0.7
10 1.65
20 13
30 25
40 37.7
50 50.5
60 62
70 74
80 86
90 99
100 110
we had an alarm @100% of amplifier ratio => the reason is not clear... maybe it's coming from a discrepency between some internal measurement and the expected value.
we checked the power after the alarm => still OK
conclusion, the amplifier seems to be OK... we need to redo the alignment of the compressor CVBG.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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restarting CFP system after the long summer shutdown (RF section conditionning) and Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this morning, with Vincent :
- we added the 10Hz trigger to the CH2 on the remote scope (192.168.229.21) to check the synchronization at the right timing.
CH1 : 33MHz RING
CH2 : LINAC/RING synchro signal
CH3 : 500MHz RING
CH4 : 33MHz FPC
we successfully lock both laser on FPC (87kW for 33% amp ratio) and FPC on 500MHz RF.
we saw the result on the scope.
suprisingly, the FPC/RF lock seems much robust than before.
the only problem is the MOT.06 which make the lock being lost at almost every move.
one reason could be the rust on the mechanics... we can try to change the position of both plan mirror motors to work in a proper region.
before, it was working well at -900 000 steps on MOT.06, now it is -780 00.
it's a quite long travel...
end of this posts thread
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I changed a little bit the locking parameters (see picture) for the RF/FPC loop and it locked rapidely.
I asked Vincent to connect on the same scope the synchro signals to check if the FPC lock was OK => he connected 33MHz signals coming from the laser and from the 33MHz RF generator.
=> the signals are not locked even when the FPC seems to be locked to the RF.
=> it can be normal because he forgot to connect also the synchro trigger signal which gives the moment of synchronization of the machine... to be finished on Monday.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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now, the Ring RF frequency is set to 500.067MHz.
so the CFP/laser frequency should be 500.067MHz/15 = 33.3378MHz.
the frequency was set to 33.378MHz !!! => it explains the frequency shift only on the 33MHz beating => I corrected the frequency on the generator and informed Nicolas Delerue.
=> now, I can try to lock the CFP to the RF frequency.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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after redoing the alignment of the CVBG, we got back the initial power in the FPC (87kW)
now, I checked the RF locking signals on the 2nd oscilloscope.
I get a strange ratio between the 33MHz beating and the 500MHz beating signals.
beat @ 33MHz ~ 40kHz !
beat @ 500MHz ~ 700Hz !
maybe the 33MHz generator frequency is not matching the 500MHz RF frequency ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
amplifier power measurement before the compressor CVBG.
we used a mirror in between the amplifier output and the compressor + a 2-mirror periscope to match the powermeter height.
amp ratio (%) power (W)
0 0.7
10 1.65
20 13
30 25
40 37.7
50 50.5
60 62
70 74
80 86
90 99
100 110
we had an alarm @100% of amplifier ratio => the reason is not clear... maybe it's coming from a discrepency between some internal measurement and the expected value.
we checked the power after the alarm => still OK
conclusion, the amplifier seems to be OK... we need to redo the alignment of the compressor CVBG.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
After the summer power shutdown, I restarted all the equipements and got quickly ~80kW for 33% amplifier ratio with CEP optimization and without Alignment optimization.
CEP motor position : -506µm
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Daniele, we are measuring the amplifier power just before the FP-cavity.
Casemate temperature @19.5°C
@0% : 205mW
@10%: 755mW
@20%: 7.44W
@30%: 14.3W
@33%:16.3W
@40% : 20.3W
@50% : 24W
@60% : 26W
=> there is a power issue !!!
the normal casemate temperature should be in between 21 and 22°C.
cf this post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133) to get previous amplifier power.
=> it seems we need to redo the compressor CVBG alignment !
first, we will check the amplifier power before the compressor.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
after doing some alignment (walking procedure on the Y axis), and CEP optimization, I got 83kW for 33% on the laser amplifier with a coupling of ~60%
=> we have to check the input power after the amplifier.
I adjusted the FP and laser cavity motors to have a small 33MHz detuning with the RF reference (~10 Hz of beating @ 33MHz)
pb : I don't see the 500MHz beating signal => to be checked
during the motion of the FP-cavity motors, I observed a systematic delock when moving MOT.06 on P1z and no delock with MOT.03 on P4z when I move by 10 steps.
Kevin checked that both IcePap controller have the same configuration and then, the problem is maybe coming from the rust observed on the mechanic.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we had to move the laser cavity motor to find the resonances and change a lot the CEP.
the CEP motor is at -524.1µm
we got ~75kW in the FP cavity without alignment but with CEP optimization.
the coupling (the cyan color) is ~ 62% !
=> we need to do some alignment
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I refilled the chiller and the stabilized temperature is @ 25°C
we started the 3rd stage of the Alphanov amplifier at 30% => PD_OUT is fluctuating around 1-1.4W => it's not related to the real output power !
the photodiode connected to the scope CH2 is around 210mV @ 50ohms
we clearly see some small peak on the transmission signal (scope CH1) => we need to optimize the laser cavity length and the CEP
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
temperature in the casemate ~ 19.5°C stable
this morning, I measured the power directly at the output of the fiber coupler (through the output fiber), after the strecher : ~5mW
then, I connected the EOM used for the PDH technic : ~2.5mW
then, I connected the fiber of the EOM to the Alphanov amplifier input fiber.
LAL Alphnov software :
PD_IN = 3.289mW
PD_PULSE = 33.372MHz
=> nothing to do ! :-)))
I switched ON the preamplifier (3rd stage @ 0%) => PD_Preamp2 = 152.44mW
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, we did 2 tests to better understand this 20Hz oscillation:
- we locked the amplified laser directly to the 500MHz ring reference oscillator, without any intermediate locking to the FP-cavity => no change
the 20Hz oscillation is still present in the correction signal of the laser PZT.
- we switched OFF the controller of the hexapod => no change.
conclusion:
the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity
or is coming from "outside" and could be measured, maybe at a higher level, with an external "noises & vibrations measurement system".
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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yesterday I did 2 tests to try to understand the origin of the 20Hz oscillation which is dominant in the remaining 10-20ps rms jitter between the transmitted pulses and the RF reference generator.
10ps rms jitter is equivalent to phase jitter dphi = 2*pi*f0*dt = 2mrad rms @ 33MHz or 30mrad rms @ 500MHz.
with V0 = 1Vpeak of beating signal amplitude, the equivalent rms beating voltage is dV = V0 * sin(dphi) ~ V0 * dphi = 2mV rms @ 33MHz or 30mV rms @ 500MHz
1) I did a beating between the internal photodiode of the laser with an external 33MHz oscillator (the photodiode is too slow to use higher harmonic).
the difficult part is to see the 2mV rms noise on a 2Vpp oscillating signal, so I locked the external 33MHz reference oscillator with the beating signal => see first plot.
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => the lock is too good and removed the oscillation ?
2) I did a beating between the photodiode in reflection of the FP-cavity (so the signal is not coming only from the oscillator but is going also through the Alphanov amplifier) with the 500MHz RF Ring generator.
I cannot the lock the generator anymore, so the measurement is done in open loop. I adjust the laser Frep with the motor to try to cancel the beating frequency => see 2nd plot
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => it is in contradiction with the previous post : "conclusion: the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity" ?!?
maybe we need a more complex measurement scheme with the possibility to measure in the same time the 10-20ps rms jitter coming from the locked FP-cavity transmitted signal/500MHz Ring generator
AND the beating signal between the laser or amplifier with 500MHz local reference generator... to be done...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, we did 2 tests to better understand this 20Hz oscillation:
- we locked the amplified laser directly to the 500MHz ring reference oscillator, without any intermediate locking to the FP-cavity => no change
the 20Hz oscillation is still present in the correction signal of the laser PZT.
- we switched OFF the controller of the hexapod => no change.
conclusion:
the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity
or is coming from "outside" and could be measured, maybe at a higher level, with an external "noises & vibrations measurement system".
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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what does this 10ps phase jitter mean in term of cavity length variations ?
L = L0 + dL sin(2pi fm t) = L0 (1 + dL/L0 sin(2pi fm t))
F = c / L ~ F0 - F0² dL / c sin(2pi fm t) with F0 = c / L0
d/dt(phi) = 2pi F => phi = 2pi F0 t + F0² dL / (c fm) cos(2pi fm t) => dphi = F0² dL / (c fm)
dphi = 2pi F0 dt => dL = L0 * 2pi fm dt
dt rms = 10ps @ fm = 20Hz of modulation frequency <=> dL rms = 10 nm (L0 = 9m)
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yesterday I did 2 tests to try to understand the origin of the 20Hz oscillation which is dominant in the remaining 10-20ps rms jitter between the transmitted pulses and the RF reference generator.
10ps rms jitter is equivalent to phase jitter dphi = 2*pi*f0*dt = 2mrad rms @ 33MHz or 30mrad rms @ 500MHz.
with V0 = 1Vpeak of beating signal amplitude, the equivalent rms beating voltage is dV = V0 * sin(dphi) ~ V0 * dphi = 2mV rms @ 33MHz or 30mV rms @ 500MHz
1) I did a beating between the internal photodiode of the laser with an external 33MHz oscillator (the photodiode is too slow to use higher harmonic).
the difficult part is to see the 2mV rms noise on a 2Vpp oscillating signal, so I locked the external 33MHz reference oscillator with the beating signal => see first plot.
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => the lock is too good and removed the oscillation ?
2) I did a beating between the photodiode in reflection of the FP-cavity (so the signal is not coming only from the oscillator but is going also through the Alphanov amplifier) with the 500MHz RF Ring generator.
I cannot the lock the generator anymore, so the measurement is done in open loop. I adjust the laser Frep with the motor to try to cancel the beating frequency => see 2nd plot
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => it is in contradiction with the previous post : "conclusion: the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity" ?!?
maybe we need a more complex measurement scheme with the possibility to measure in the same time the 10-20ps rms jitter coming from the locked FP-cavity transmitted signal/500MHz Ring generator
AND the beating signal between the laser or amplifier with 500MHz local reference generator... to be done...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, we did 2 tests to better understand this 20Hz oscillation:
- we locked the amplified laser directly to the 500MHz ring reference oscillator, without any intermediate locking to the FP-cavity => no change
the 20Hz oscillation is still present in the correction signal of the laser PZT.
- we switched OFF the controller of the hexapod => no change.
conclusion:
the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity
or is coming from "outside" and could be measured, maybe at a higher level, with an external "noises & vibrations measurement system".
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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measure to be done next week to check the 20Hz noise on the laser amplifier signal:
- install a DET10 in reflection of the FP-cavity to get a high BW and measure the 500MHz harmonic.
- do the beating with the 500MHz Ring RF generator
- with the laser motor try to be close to the 500MHz Ring RF frequency => beating frequency below 1kHz
- send the beating signal to some RF spectrum analyzer to use its large dynamic range.
for example, with the Siglent RF spectrum analyzer, it is possible to detect easily a peak @ -96dBm <=> 3.5µV rms
so, one should be able to make the measurement @ 500MHz or even @ 33MHz even if the phase sensitivity is lower :
for example V0=100mV peak beating signal @ f0=33MHz should produce a 20Hz noise signal of:
dV ~ V0 * dphi = V0 * 2*pi*f0*dt = 200µV rms with jitter dt=10ps rms
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what does this 10ps phase jitter mean in term of cavity length variations ?
L = L0 + dL sin(2pi fm t) = L0 (1 + dL/L0 sin(2pi fm t))
F = c / L ~ F0 - F0² dL / c sin(2pi fm t) with F0 = c / L0
d/dt(phi) = 2pi F => phi = 2pi F0 t + F0² dL / (c fm) cos(2pi fm t) => dphi = F0² dL / (c fm)
dphi = 2pi F0 dt => dL = L0 * 2pi fm dt
dt rms = 10ps @ fm = 20Hz of modulation frequency <=> dL rms = 10 nm (L0 = 9m)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday I did 2 tests to try to understand the origin of the 20Hz oscillation which is dominant in the remaining 10-20ps rms jitter between the transmitted pulses and the RF reference generator.
10ps rms jitter is equivalent to phase jitter dphi = 2*pi*f0*dt = 2mrad rms @ 33MHz or 30mrad rms @ 500MHz.
with V0 = 1Vpeak of beating signal amplitude, the equivalent rms beating voltage is dV = V0 * sin(dphi) ~ V0 * dphi = 2mV rms @ 33MHz or 30mV rms @ 500MHz
1) I did a beating between the internal photodiode of the laser with an external 33MHz oscillator (the photodiode is too slow to use higher harmonic).
the difficult part is to see the 2mV rms noise on a 2Vpp oscillating signal, so I locked the external 33MHz reference oscillator with the beating signal => see first plot.
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => the lock is too good and removed the oscillation ?
2) I did a beating between the photodiode in reflection of the FP-cavity (so the signal is not coming only from the oscillator but is going also through the Alphanov amplifier) with the 500MHz RF Ring generator.
I cannot the lock the generator anymore, so the measurement is done in open loop. I adjust the laser Frep with the motor to try to cancel the beating frequency => see 2nd plot
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => it is in contradiction with the previous post : "conclusion: the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity" ?!?
maybe we need a more complex measurement scheme with the possibility to measure in the same time the 10-20ps rms jitter coming from the locked FP-cavity transmitted signal/500MHz Ring generator
AND the beating signal between the laser or amplifier with 500MHz local reference generator... to be done...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, we did 2 tests to better understand this 20Hz oscillation:
- we locked the amplified laser directly to the 500MHz ring reference oscillator, without any intermediate locking to the FP-cavity => no change
the 20Hz oscillation is still present in the correction signal of the laser PZT.
- we switched OFF the controller of the hexapod => no change.
conclusion:
the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity
or is coming from "outside" and could be measured, maybe at a higher level, with an external "noises & vibrations measurement system".
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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20Hz oscillation in the locking between Laser and FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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could it be possible this 20Hz oscillations comes from anouncements in the bunker, puting the housing+table in vibration ?
(there are such anouncements during restricted access) => to be asked to Harold
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measure to be done next week to check the 20Hz noise on the laser amplifier signal:
- install a DET10 in reflection of the FP-cavity to get a high BW and measure the 500MHz harmonic.
- do the beating with the 500MHz Ring RF generator
- with the laser motor try to be close to the 500MHz Ring RF frequency => beating frequency below 1kHz
- send the beating signal to some RF spectrum analyzer to use its large dynamic range.
for example, with the Siglent RF spectrum analyzer, it is possible to detect easily a peak @ -96dBm <=> 3.5µV rms
so, one should be able to make the measurement @ 500MHz or even @ 33MHz even if the phase sensitivity is lower :
for example V0=100mV peak beating signal @ f0=33MHz should produce a 20Hz noise signal of:
dV ~ V0 * dphi = V0 * 2*pi*f0*dt = 200µV rms with jitter dt=10ps rms
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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what does this 10ps phase jitter mean in term of cavity length variations ?
L = L0 + dL sin(2pi fm t) = L0 (1 + dL/L0 sin(2pi fm t))
F = c / L ~ F0 - F0² dL / c sin(2pi fm t) with F0 = c / L0
d/dt(phi) = 2pi F => phi = 2pi F0 t + F0² dL / (c fm) cos(2pi fm t) => dphi = F0² dL / (c fm)
dphi = 2pi F0 dt => dL = L0 * 2pi fm dt
dt rms = 10ps @ fm = 20Hz of modulation frequency <=> dL rms = 10 nm (L0 = 9m)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday I did 2 tests to try to understand the origin of the 20Hz oscillation which is dominant in the remaining 10-20ps rms jitter between the transmitted pulses and the RF reference generator.
10ps rms jitter is equivalent to phase jitter dphi = 2*pi*f0*dt = 2mrad rms @ 33MHz or 30mrad rms @ 500MHz.
with V0 = 1Vpeak of beating signal amplitude, the equivalent rms beating voltage is dV = V0 * sin(dphi) ~ V0 * dphi = 2mV rms @ 33MHz or 30mV rms @ 500MHz
1) I did a beating between the internal photodiode of the laser with an external 33MHz oscillator (the photodiode is too slow to use higher harmonic).
the difficult part is to see the 2mV rms noise on a 2Vpp oscillating signal, so I locked the external 33MHz reference oscillator with the beating signal => see first plot.
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => the lock is too good and removed the oscillation ?
2) I did a beating between the photodiode in reflection of the FP-cavity (so the signal is not coming only from the oscillator but is going also through the Alphanov amplifier) with the 500MHz RF Ring generator.
I cannot the lock the generator anymore, so the measurement is done in open loop. I adjust the laser Frep with the motor to try to cancel the beating frequency => see 2nd plot
there is no trace of 20Hz oscillation in the beating signal => it is in contradiction with the previous post : "conclusion: the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity" ?!?
maybe we need a more complex measurement scheme with the possibility to measure in the same time the 10-20ps rms jitter coming from the locked FP-cavity transmitted signal/500MHz Ring generator
AND the beating signal between the laser or amplifier with 500MHz local reference generator... to be done...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, we did 2 tests to better understand this 20Hz oscillation:
- we locked the amplified laser directly to the 500MHz ring reference oscillator, without any intermediate locking to the FP-cavity => no change
the 20Hz oscillation is still present in the correction signal of the laser PZT.
- we switched OFF the controller of the hexapod => no change.
conclusion:
the 20Hz oscillation is coming from the laser cavity
or is coming from "outside" and could be measured, maybe at a higher level, with an external "noises & vibrations measurement system".
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, we tried to find the origin of the 20Hz oscillation.
- we switched OFF the laser Smaract motors controller => no change
- then, we addionally disconnected the FP-cavity PZT cable from the Laselock (we put a charge of 1kohm) => no change
- then, we switched ON the laser Smaract motors controller and switched OFF the FP-cavity motors controllers => no change
in conclusion, we don't really know where this instabillity comes from.
the amplitude is roughly 1Vpp (when the oscillation is at its maximum) on the laser PZT <=> length oscillation of ~20nm pp
could it come :
- from the air cooling regulation with pressure variation ?
- from vibrations of the hexapod below the table ?
or is it from inside of the laser or FP cavities ?
see these posts for the first measurements on this issue: https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/257
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fixing CVBG issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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the CVBG of the compressor module seems to have an issue.
here is the plan of the work :
1) faire des résonances avec la CFP
2) ajuster les iris d'alignement du faisceau de l'ampli pour être sur de ne pas perdre la référence de l'axe de la CFP
3) installer des wedges haute puissance à proximité du compresseur + beam profiler
4) verifier la forme du faisceau au beam profiler en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli
5) ouvrir le boîtier du compresseur
6) prendre des images du boîtier à la caméra thermique en fonction de la puissance
7) éventuellement shunter le 2e CVBG avec un D shape et regarder le mode et caractéristique en sortie d'ampli.
8) ajuster l'injection dans le premier CVBG ou le second ou les deux en fonctions des résultats précédent
here are some useful logbook posts:
D-shape + images thermiques du compresseur qui peuvent servir de référence :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/147
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/150
post des images du faisceau en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/135 (et autres posts du fil)
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/195 (et autres posts du fil)
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fixing CVBG issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 12x
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1) this morning, I aligned to CFP to get back 82kW in the cavity for 33% of amplifier ratio.
thus, we can ajust the iris positions on the optical table to fix the CFP optical path before touching the CVBG.
2) we aligned the 5 iris. all of them were misaligned by 1-2mm, principaly vertically (maybe because we had to change the CFP frequency some time ago to match the new RF frequency?).
3) we opened the compressor box and found out the beam on the last mirror was really on the border => we have to move it.
=> we recorded several beam profiles at 20-70% of amplifier ratio (see images before realignement)
above 50% of amplifier ratio, the beam is deformed.
=> we realigned the 2 last mirrors of the compressor and compensate the axis displacement with the 2 inches injection mirrors at the output of the compressor to get back the telescope axis.
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W)
0 0.286
10 0.91
20 8.6
30 16.7
40 25.5
50 34.5
60 42.5
70 50.0
80 57.0
90 64.0
100 70.0
small power drop for ratio < 40% compared to previous measurements : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/133
the power is back => OK ! :-)))
we took some images with the beam profiler at high power after the realignement (see images after realignement)
tomorrow, we have to realign the amplifier beam axis to the CFP axis.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the CVBG of the compressor module seems to have an issue.
here is the plan of the work :
1) faire des résonances avec la CFP
2) ajuster les iris d'alignement du faisceau de l'ampli pour être sur de ne pas perdre la référence de l'axe de la CFP
3) installer des wedges haute puissance à proximité du compresseur + beam profiler
4) verifier la forme du faisceau au beam profiler en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli
5) ouvrir le boîtier du compresseur
6) prendre des images du boîtier à la caméra thermique en fonction de la puissance
7) éventuellement shunter le 2e CVBG avec un D shape et regarder le mode et caractéristique en sortie d'ampli.
8) ajuster l'injection dans le premier CVBG ou le second ou les deux en fonctions des résultats précédent
here are some useful logbook posts:
D-shape + images thermiques du compresseur qui peuvent servir de référence :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/147
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/150
post des images du faisceau en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/135 (et autres posts du fil)
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/195 (et autres posts du fil)
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fixing CVBG issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning with Daniele, we realigned the amplifier beam axis on the iris position.
it was pretty fast an easy => we got rapidely some resonance and we locked back to 87kW @33% amp ratio after tuning CEP and alignment.
we tried to play on the L-shape but we didn't a clear effect.
we also played on the 1/2 and 1/4 waveplates to tune the polarization.
we see very clearly the locked reflected signal changing without almost changing the transmission !
Aurélien suggested to slightly focusing the beam in the DET36 photodiode to have a better estimation of the coupling.
presently, the beam is clearly larger than the DET36 photodiode area which artificially increases the measured coupling.
(I cannot use a DET100 because I need 500MHz BW to get some RF signal for beating with the 500MHz reference signal).
I added a +75mm lens in front of the DET36 reflection signal photodiode => now, the beam is rougly 1-2mm diameter, centered on the DET36.
when I optimize the alignment and the CEP, I get 86-87kW in the CFP and 45% coupling => cf plot
end of the CVBG issue posts.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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1) this morning, I aligned to CFP to get back 82kW in the cavity for 33% of amplifier ratio.
thus, we can ajust the iris positions on the optical table to fix the CFP optical path before touching the CVBG.
2) we aligned the 5 iris. all of them were misaligned by 1-2mm, principaly vertically (maybe because we had to change the CFP frequency some time ago to match the new RF frequency?).
3) we opened the compressor box and found out the beam on the last mirror was really on the border => we have to move it.
=> we recorded several beam profiles at 20-70% of amplifier ratio (see images before realignement)
above 50% of amplifier ratio, the beam is deformed.
=> we realigned the 2 last mirrors of the compressor and compensate the axis displacement with the 2 inches injection mirrors at the output of the compressor to get back the telescope axis.
amplifier ratio (%) power after compressor (W)
0 0.286
10 0.91
20 8.6
30 16.7
40 25.5
50 34.5
60 42.5
70 50.0
80 57.0
90 64.0
100 70.0
the power is back => OK ! :-)))
we took some images with the beam profiler at high power after the realignement (see images after realignement)
tomorrow, we have to realign the amplifier beam axis to the CFP axis.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the CVBG of the compressor module seems to have an issue.
here is the plan of the work :
1) faire des résonances avec la CFP
2) ajuster les iris d'alignement du faisceau de l'ampli pour être sur de ne pas perdre la référence de l'axe de la CFP
3) installer des wedges haute puissance à proximité du compresseur + beam profiler
4) verifier la forme du faisceau au beam profiler en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli
5) ouvrir le boîtier du compresseur
6) prendre des images du boîtier à la caméra thermique en fonction de la puissance
7) éventuellement shunter le 2e CVBG avec un D shape et regarder le mode et caractéristique en sortie d'ampli.
8) ajuster l'injection dans le premier CVBG ou le second ou les deux en fonctions des résultats précédent
here are some useful logbook posts:
D-shape + images thermiques du compresseur qui peuvent servir de référence :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/147
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/150
post des images du faisceau en fonction de la puissance de l'ampli :
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/135 (et autres posts du fil)
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/195 (et autres posts du fil)
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it ! |
Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
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on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
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I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
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The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
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I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Yesterday, we received the controller back from Alphanov
and I tested it immediately in the optical room.
if the software is properly talking to the controller, everything works normally.
then, one just have to remember that is mandatory to have the software properly connected to let the controller start electrically (power supply activated on the main boards)
Today, I installed it in the casemate with all the connections to the laser input, output, laser head, safety connections, etc...
and it works properly.
- The power in the fiber from the strecher is at 6.3mW.
the software reads 5.3mW but after a long fiber... then it is OK.
=> one strange thing : it detects 100MHz instead of 33MHz => to be reported to Alphanov !
- Amplifier output power measured after 2 mirrors :
0% => 230 mW
10% => 880 mW
20% => 8.8W
30% => 17W
which are the numbers we had before.... then we are back to normal conditions to continue the commissioning.
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Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
| Ronic Chiche w |
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I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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FYI : to access special menus on the Alphanov software,
login : "Administrator"
pwd : no password
to modify parameters in these special menus :
login : "Alphanov"
pwd : "AE32HF56J"
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we received the controller back from Alphanov
and I tested it immediately in the optical room.
if the software is properly talking to the controller, everything works normally.
then, one just have to remember that is mandatory to have the software properly connected to let the controller start electrically (power supply activated on the main boards)
Today, I installed it in the casemate with all the connections to the laser input, output, laser head, safety connections, etc...
and it works properly.
- The power in the fiber from the strecher is at 6.3mW.
the software reads 5.3mW but after a long fiber... then it is OK.
=> one strange thing : it detects 100MHz instead of 33MHz => to be reported to Alphanov !
- Amplifier output power measured after 2 mirrors :
0% => 230 mW
10% => 880 mW
20% => 8.8W
30% => 17W
which are the numbers we had before.... then we are back to normal conditions to continue the commissioning.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
| Ronic Chiche w |
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I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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the present situation is :
Guillaume asked me to disconnect the "Laser head" cable from the pump diode module, installed on the optical table.
on the pump diode module, the connector has several small pins and 3 larges pins : A1, A2, A3.
if the diode of the preamplifier (not the ones of the last stage) is alive, the impedance between A2 and A3 should be around 5 ohms and not HiZ.
I checked several days ago the impedance between all these 3 pins to avoid any error on the schematics.
the impedance is always HiZ.
then, Guillaume thinks the diode is dead.
we are waiting for further tests or procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
FYI : to access special menus on the Alphanov software,
login : "Administrator"
pwd : no password
to modify parameters in these special menus :
login : "Alphanov"
pwd : "AE32HF56J"
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we received the controller back from Alphanov
and I tested it immediately in the optical room.
if the software is properly talking to the controller, everything works normally.
then, one just have to remember that is mandatory to have the software properly connected to let the controller start electrically (power supply activated on the main boards)
Today, I installed it in the casemate with all the connections to the laser input, output, laser head, safety connections, etc...
and it works properly.
- The power in the fiber from the strecher is at 6.3mW.
the software reads 5.3mW but after a long fiber... then it is OK.
=> one strange thing : it detects 100MHz instead of 33MHz => to be reported to Alphanov !
- Amplifier output power measured after 2 mirrors :
0% => 230 mW
10% => 880 mW
20% => 8.8W
30% => 17W
which are the numbers we had before.... then we are back to normal conditions to continue the commissioning.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
| Ronic Chiche w |
|
I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Guillaume and Julien Bour from Alphanov will come on wednesday 24/07 to have a first look and check the amplifier.
to prepare their intervention, I tested this morning the OneFive oscillator : it's still working at 33MHz.
and we have ~5mW in the LAL software without the EOM.
so, we are in "standard" conditions.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the present situation is :
Guillaume asked me to disconnect the "Laser head" cable from the pump diode module, installed on the optical table.
on the pump diode module, the connector has several small pins and 3 larges pins : A1, A2, A3.
if the diode of the preamplifier (not the ones of the last stage) is alive, the impedance between A2 and A3 should be around 5 ohms and not HiZ.
I checked several days ago the impedance between all these 3 pins to avoid any error on the schematics.
the impedance is always HiZ.
then, Guillaume thinks the diode is dead.
we are waiting for further tests or procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
FYI : to access special menus on the Alphanov software,
login : "Administrator"
pwd : no password
to modify parameters in these special menus :
login : "Alphanov"
pwd : "AE32HF56J"
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we received the controller back from Alphanov
and I tested it immediately in the optical room.
if the software is properly talking to the controller, everything works normally.
then, one just have to remember that is mandatory to have the software properly connected to let the controller start electrically (power supply activated on the main boards)
Today, I installed it in the casemate with all the connections to the laser input, output, laser head, safety connections, etc...
and it works properly.
- The power in the fiber from the strecher is at 6.3mW.
the software reads 5.3mW but after a long fiber... then it is OK.
=> one strange thing : it detects 100MHz instead of 33MHz => to be reported to Alphanov !
- Amplifier output power measured after 2 mirrors :
0% => 230 mW
10% => 880 mW
20% => 8.8W
30% => 17W
which are the numbers we had before.... then we are back to normal conditions to continue the commissioning.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
| Ronic Chiche w |
|
I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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Alphanov amplifier issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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picture of the connectors used to carry signals between the amplifier pump module and the rack under the table.
DB13W3 standard has been used to carry high current on the 3 dedicated pins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DB13W3
the connectors are male types on both sides of the cable, and then female on the pump module and rack : see the 2 pictures.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Guillaume and Julien Bour from Alphanov will come on wednesday 24/07 to have a first look and check the amplifier.
to prepare their intervention, I tested this morning the OneFive oscillator : it's still working at 33MHz.
and we have ~5mW in the LAL software without the EOM.
so, we are in "standard" conditions.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the present situation is :
Guillaume asked me to disconnect the "Laser head" cable from the pump diode module, installed on the optical table.
on the pump diode module, the connector has several small pins and 3 larges pins : A1, A2, A3.
if the diode of the preamplifier (not the ones of the last stage) is alive, the impedance between A2 and A3 should be around 5 ohms and not HiZ.
I checked several days ago the impedance between all these 3 pins to avoid any error on the schematics.
the impedance is always HiZ.
then, Guillaume thinks the diode is dead.
we are waiting for further tests or procedure.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
FYI : to access special menus on the Alphanov software,
login : "Administrator"
pwd : no password
to modify parameters in these special menus :
login : "Alphanov"
pwd : "AE32HF56J"
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we received the controller back from Alphanov
and I tested it immediately in the optical room.
if the software is properly talking to the controller, everything works normally.
then, one just have to remember that is mandatory to have the software properly connected to let the controller start electrically (power supply activated on the main boards)
Today, I installed it in the casemate with all the connections to the laser input, output, laser head, safety connections, etc...
and it works properly.
- The power in the fiber from the strecher is at 6.3mW.
the software reads 5.3mW but after a long fiber... then it is OK.
=> one strange thing : it detects 100MHz instead of 33MHz => to be reported to Alphanov !
- Amplifier output power measured after 2 mirrors :
0% => 230 mW
10% => 880 mW
20% => 8.8W
30% => 17W
which are the numbers we had before.... then we are back to normal conditions to continue the commissioning.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I did a Teams meeting with Guillaume.
He didn't see any problem with the controller.
normally, the controller will be shipped to the lab tomorrow.
I attach an updated schematic of the internal electronics boards and how they are connected to the PSS.
1- when the black switch button is ON, only the Arduino board, which deals with the software in ON.
2- then, one needs to switch ON the big green button => an internal relay allows the power supply to reach the LAL safety board + Central board + MMD boards but these boards are not powered !
3- then, one needs to turn the key ON => the software can access the Arduino board
4- then, start the software => the white LED of the big green button is ON => all the boards are now powered
depending on the safety signals connected to the controller, it will be possible or not to start the diode supplies (with MMD boards).
the 24V DC coming from an external power supply in replacement of the PSS 24V supply is not mandatory to access the software:
we will only see some buttons (Relai 1 and 2 in the software) to be RED (OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
The laser amplifier controller has been sent yesterday and received today by Alphannov.
they should do the assessment quickly...
| Ronic Chiche w |
|
I just tested the fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => it is OK ! :-(
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
on Monday morning 7/11, we tried to restart the Alphanov amplifier which was not turned on since end of april 2022, but it didn't start.
we did a standard "turn ON" procedure :
- check the safety button on the front panel (which has to be released).
- switch on the black switch on the rear panel.
- push the green button on the rear panel
- turn on the key on the front panel
- push the start button on the front panel
normally after switching on the black switch on the rear panel, a light shines in between the red and green big button on the read panel.
but nothing in that case. we just ear a weak "rotating fan" noise coming from the inside of the rack.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel, the start button on the front panel comes to blue.
but nothing in that case.
normally, after pushing the green button on the rear panel and turning the key, the start button on the front panel comes to red.
but nothing in that case.
we tried anyway to connect the amplifier with a computer, just in case of...
but the Alphanov software is not able to connect to the amplifier.
One possible issue could be a dead fuse inside the black ON/OFF switch on the rear panel => one has to check it !
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New password for login on the ThomX computer, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about software
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the previous password has expired.
the new access from the computer :
login : .\$jehanno
pwd : ThomX23456
the new access in remote:
login : $jehanno
pwd : ThomX23456 |
FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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|
this morning, the chiller was in error and I had to restart it.
the air temperature is around 21°C.
the water cooling has been repaired but the initial Temp Amp 1 is at 28°C.
I got 86kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
but the amplifier stopped after an error after 30 minutes => the Temp Amp1 reached 30°C => it's not normal.
the chiller was again in error. I tried to restart it but I got an ERROR14 : Thermostat error, the flow rate is zero !!!
the tubes for the inner circuit going to the amplifier are a little hot by touching them with my hand.
the tubes for the outer circuit going to the ThomX water circuit is hot for the "blue" tube et cold for the "yellow" tube.
it means there is no flow in the outer circuit.
Jean-Noel just told me it's normal because he stopped the ThomX water pump because of a too high temperature => Dalkia should fix the problem today.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -792 600 steps.
CEP motor = -211µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
Yesterday, the ThomX water circuit should have been repared,
and yesterday aftenoon, Daniele restarted the chiller and I checked it this morning without any error.
BUT the pump of the ThomX water circuit is again in default...
Dalkia has been called to fix the problem.
despite this point, I restarted the laser amplifier this morning.
everything seems as usual and I can see some small resonance at the output of the Fabry-Perot cavity
BUT the reflection photodiode level doen't change when the amplifier is ON.
I need to check if the photodiode switch is set ON or if it is misaligned or dead.... to be checked.
in between, I prefer to stop the laser amplifier.
edit : the photodiode problem was coming from the PhD power supply which was OFF.
I just turned it ON.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the chiller was in error and I had to restart it.
the air temperature is around 21°C.
the water cooling has been repaired but the initial Temp Amp 1 is at 28°C.
I got 86kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
but the amplifier stopped after an error after 30 minutes => the Temp Amp1 reached 30°C => it's not normal.
the chiller was again in error. I tried to restart it but I got an ERROR14 : Thermostat error, the flow rate is zero !!!
the tubes for the inner circuit going to the amplifier are a little hot by touching them with my hand.
the tubes for the outer circuit going to the ThomX water circuit is hot for the "blue" tube et cold for the "yellow" tube.
it means there is no flow in the outer circuit.
Jean-Noel just told me it's normal because he stopped the ThomX water pump because of a too high temperature => Dalkia should fix the problem today.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -792 600 steps.
CEP motor = -211µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
the air temperature is between 21°C and 22°C.
I tried to lock the cavity but it was very instable with only short time locks.
I had to increase the parameters of the PID:
P = 0.07
I = 0.0007
D = 0.706
after that, the lock was stable but we can see something in transmission (dark blue curve) which seems to be a degeneracy.
maybe because of the water cooling temperature, after stopping the laser amplifier, I was not able to restart it.
I always got an error (an alarm was triggered by bad sequence) when I want to switch ON the preamplifier at 0%.
the Temp Amp 1 is about 25-26°C... it is stange.
to be tested after the water cooling is repaired.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, the ThomX water circuit should have been repared,
and yesterday aftenoon, Daniele restarted the chiller and I checked it this morning without any error.
BUT the pump of the ThomX water circuit is again in default...
Dalkia has been called to fix the problem.
despite this point, I restarted the laser amplifier this morning.
everything seems as usual and I can see some small resonance at the output of the Fabry-Perot cavity
BUT the reflection photodiode level doen't change when the amplifier is ON.
I need to check if the photodiode switch is set ON or if it is misaligned or dead.... to be checked.
in between, I prefer to stop the laser amplifier.
edit : the photodiode problem was coming from the PhD power supply which was OFF.
I just turned it ON.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the chiller was in error and I had to restart it.
the air temperature is around 21°C.
the water cooling has been repaired but the initial Temp Amp 1 is at 28°C.
I got 86kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
but the amplifier stopped after an error after 30 minutes => the Temp Amp1 reached 30°C => it's not normal.
the chiller was again in error. I tried to restart it but I got an ERROR14 : Thermostat error, the flow rate is zero !!!
the tubes for the inner circuit going to the amplifier are a little hot by touching them with my hand.
the tubes for the outer circuit going to the ThomX water circuit is hot for the "blue" tube et cold for the "yellow" tube.
it means there is no flow in the outer circuit.
Jean-Noel just told me it's normal because he stopped the ThomX water pump because of a too high temperature => Dalkia should fix the problem today.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -792 600 steps.
CEP motor = -211µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
|
today, I tried to restart the amplifier at 0% (without 3rd stage) but it didn't start... still the same error message.
but the PD_IN power and the PD_PULSE frequency seems correct.... I will try to power the amplifier OFF and ON later to see if one can reset this error.
edit : finally, a the end of the day, I switched OFF and ON several times the amplifier but I always get the same error message "bad sequence error".
I tried to use the Alphanov software to see if we can get more information about the error :
the watchdog LED is RED => I have to check if it is normal or not before starting the amplifier
and the PD_CRI LED is RED => normal because the preamp stage is not started (and it does not want to start...)
PD_IN is at 3.1mV but a previous post says that the amplifier worked with 2.7mV.
we can try to increase to 3.2-3.3 mW and see if it works....
edit : it seems we already had this kind of error before.
Guillaume suggested to check the average power of the seeder at the output of the fiber, the repetition rate and the stability of the signal.
previous post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/179) have shown an input power (PD_IN) around 5.7mW (see the attached image) !
this power was maybe obtained without any EOM which divide the power by ~2.
=> we can try to remove it temporarilly to check if the amplifier is able to restart in this condition... to be done
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the air temperature is between 21°C and 22°C.
I tried to lock the cavity but it was very instable with only short time locks.
I had to increase the parameters of the PID:
P = 0.07
I = 0.0007
D = 0.706
after that, the lock was stable but we can see something in transmission (dark blue curve) which seems to be a degeneracy.
maybe because of the water cooling temperature, after stopping the laser amplifier, I was not able to restart it.
I always got an error (an alarm was triggered by bad sequence) when I want to switch ON the preamplifier at 0%.
the Temp Amp 1 is about 25-26°C... it is stange.
to be tested after the water cooling is repaired.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Yesterday, the ThomX water circuit should have been repared,
and yesterday aftenoon, Daniele restarted the chiller and I checked it this morning without any error.
BUT the pump of the ThomX water circuit is again in default...
Dalkia has been called to fix the problem.
despite this point, I restarted the laser amplifier this morning.
everything seems as usual and I can see some small resonance at the output of the Fabry-Perot cavity
BUT the reflection photodiode level doen't change when the amplifier is ON.
I need to check if the photodiode switch is set ON or if it is misaligned or dead.... to be checked.
in between, I prefer to stop the laser amplifier.
edit : the photodiode problem was coming from the PhD power supply which was OFF.
I just turned it ON.
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this morning, the chiller was in error and I had to restart it.
the air temperature is around 21°C.
the water cooling has been repaired but the initial Temp Amp 1 is at 28°C.
I got 86kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
but the amplifier stopped after an error after 30 minutes => the Temp Amp1 reached 30°C => it's not normal.
the chiller was again in error. I tried to restart it but I got an ERROR14 : Thermostat error, the flow rate is zero !!!
the tubes for the inner circuit going to the amplifier are a little hot by touching them with my hand.
the tubes for the outer circuit going to the ThomX water circuit is hot for the "blue" tube et cold for the "yellow" tube.
it means there is no flow in the outer circuit.
Jean-Noel just told me it's normal because he stopped the ThomX water pump because of a too high temperature => Dalkia should fix the problem today.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -792 600 steps.
CEP motor = -211µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
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this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
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this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
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from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
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This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
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This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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FP-cavity lock survey during the Linac section changing operation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today with Daniele, we disconnected the EOM to increase the injected power of the amplifier, we were at 4.8mW but we still have the "bad sequence" error => email to Guillaume
we tried also several time again, to stop and restart the amplifier, but it didn't help.
I connected back the EOM and the power dropped to 2.7mW instead of 3.1mW => fiber injection alignement to be done
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today, I tried to restart the amplifier at 0% (without 3rd stage) but it didn't start... still the same error message.
but the PD_IN power and the PD_PULSE frequency seems correct.... I will try to power the amplifier OFF and ON later to see if one can reset this error.
edit : finally, a the end of the day, I switched OFF and ON several times the amplifier but I always get the same error message "bad sequence error".
I tried to use the Alphanov software to see if we can get more information about the error :
the watchdog LED is RED => I have to check if it is normal or not before starting the amplifier
and the PD_CRI LED is RED => normal because the preamp stage is not started (and it does not want to start...)
PD_IN is at 3.1mV but a previous post says that the amplifier worked with 2.7mV.
we can try to increase to 3.2-3.3 mW and see if it works....
edit : it seems we already had this kind of error before.
Guillaume suggested to check the average power of the seeder at the output of the fiber, the repetition rate and the stability of the signal.
previous post (https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/179) have shown an input power (PD_IN) around 5.7mW (see the attached image) !
this power was maybe obtained without any EOM which divide the power by ~2.
=> we can try to remove it temporarilly to check if the amplifier is able to restart in this condition... to be done
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the air temperature is between 21°C and 22°C.
I tried to lock the cavity but it was very instable with only short time locks.
I had to increase the parameters of the PID:
P = 0.07
I = 0.0007
D = 0.706
after that, the lock was stable but we can see something in transmission (dark blue curve) which seems to be a degeneracy.
maybe because of the water cooling temperature, after stopping the laser amplifier, I was not able to restart it.
I always got an error (an alarm was triggered by bad sequence) when I want to switch ON the preamplifier at 0%.
the Temp Amp 1 is about 25-26°C... it is stange.
to be tested after the water cooling is repaired.
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Yesterday, the ThomX water circuit should have been repared,
and yesterday aftenoon, Daniele restarted the chiller and I checked it this morning without any error.
BUT the pump of the ThomX water circuit is again in default...
Dalkia has been called to fix the problem.
despite this point, I restarted the laser amplifier this morning.
everything seems as usual and I can see some small resonance at the output of the Fabry-Perot cavity
BUT the reflection photodiode level doen't change when the amplifier is ON.
I need to check if the photodiode switch is set ON or if it is misaligned or dead.... to be checked.
in between, I prefer to stop the laser amplifier.
edit : the photodiode problem was coming from the PhD power supply which was OFF.
I just turned it ON.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, the chiller was in error and I had to restart it.
the air temperature is around 21°C.
the water cooling has been repaired but the initial Temp Amp 1 is at 28°C.
I got 86kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
but the amplifier stopped after an error after 30 minutes => the Temp Amp1 reached 30°C => it's not normal.
the chiller was again in error. I tried to restart it but I got an ERROR14 : Thermostat error, the flow rate is zero !!!
the tubes for the inner circuit going to the amplifier are a little hot by touching them with my hand.
the tubes for the outer circuit going to the ThomX water circuit is hot for the "blue" tube et cold for the "yellow" tube.
it means there is no flow in the outer circuit.
Jean-Noel just told me it's normal because he stopped the ThomX water pump because of a too high temperature => Dalkia should fix the problem today.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -792 600 steps.
CEP motor = -211µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
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this morning, the computer was restarted and I had to launch all the applications.
no problem except the powermeter for which I had to do a power switch OFF and ON remotely.
the chiller was in error and I had to restart it also.
the air temperature seems to be not properly controlled (see the picture)
one can see a constant temperature drop from Tuesday 9 April 10:30am.
it seems the water cooling is also not working properly as I saw the laser amplifier temperature (Temp Amp 1) increased constantly during the run from 24°C to 30°C (in 30 mintues).
=> it's not normal, it should be regulated at 25°C !
I got 89kW in the FP-cavity with 33% of laser amplifier ratio after tuning the CEP and the alignment.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 roughly at position -782 000 steps.
CEP motor = -425µm
the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is still faulty => to be fixed by Kevin.
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this morning, I had to restart the chiller. Temp Amp 1 is at 27.5°C after having started the amplifier at 33% ratio.
I removed the 100kohms resistor on the Transmission channel, on the scope (now, it is 1Mohms), to get more sensitivity.
the air temperature is around 21°C and is stable during the last days.
I don't see any power coming from the amplifier despite it is at 33%... I think the MPS prevent us to work and the amplifier shutter is blocking the beam.
I will send an email to Sophie to check that point.
EDIT : Kevin showed me how to acknowledge the error on the MPS
=> go to "Detail" and then acknowledge the "vacuum error".
I saw the FP-cavity resonances but I didn't have time to optimize them as the water temperature is still too high and the chiller is not working good enough.
=> the amplifier did a safety stop.
one needs to wait this issue is fixed.
OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -790 000 steps.
CEP motor = -300µm but far from the optimum CEP position.
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from now on, the transmission factor for calculating the FP intra cavity power is 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 (changed in the Powermeter software)
this morning the temperature of the water cooling circuit is still very high said Sophie, and the laser amplifier temperature "Temp Amp1" is at 29°C instead of ~23-25°C
then, when I start the laser amplifier, it stops rapidly with a warning error.
I will check the chiller status as the Dalkia should fix the water temperature problem at some time (Sophie + Alice working on this point)
the air temperature in the bunker is back at 19.5°C from last Friday afternoon and is stable at less than 0.5°C.
after restarting the chiller, the "Temp Amp1" is now at 25°C before starting the power in the amplifier, it rises at 28.5°C after some minutes
I found the resonances with the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 at position -783 460 steps.
and I had to tune the CEP to get the maximum resonances at -198µm.
with the new transmission factor, I got almost 90kW for 33% laser amplifier ratio after a simple alignment procedure.
the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 is sill in error.
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This morning, I locked again the FP-cavity at more than 50kW with 33% of laser amplifier ratio.
the temperature is measured today at 20.5°C despite the fact the air conditionning is still OFF.
the temperature, rising from 18°C, started monday at 11AM roughly.
maybe, the difference comes from the external doors of the Igloo which have been closed recently ? to be confirmed.
as the temperature is measured inside the airflow housing, all the powered equipements are disspating some heat, rising the inside temperature compared to the bunker temperature.
EDIT : Sophie Chance told me the water temperature cooling of ThomX was defective... the water temperature went to 29°C ! it is being fixed by Dalkia.
careful, we don't have a temperature measurement of the water going to the chiller...
to find resonances, I moved the OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT06 motor from position -770 000 steps to position -788 600 steps which corresponds to ~100µm !
it can be explained by the temperature change and also because during the lock last week, I let the MOT06 motor in position after the cavity was at 50kW.
I had also to change the CEP motor position from -170µm to -420µm and to do some alignment (with walking procedure).
accessing the motor OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT03 from the ATK panel, produces an error : "connection to device failed"... to be solved by Kevin ?
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This morning with Daniele, we operated the FP-cavity to be sure there is no issue due to the Linac section changing operation :
- opening/closing the valves due to air pressure break down
- opening/closing the bunker roof
- large temperature change
- etc...
the temperature in the bunker dropped to 18°C instead of 21.5°C, so we had to do some FP-cavity alignment.
but after obtaining resonances and changing the CEP, we got more than 50kW for 33% of amplifier ratio => OK !
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New multiplication factor for the Fabry-Perot intra-cavity power, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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last week, we measured the transmission of a plan mirror from the same batch than the ThomX mirrors and we got ~ 1.75ppm instead of 3ppm which was the calculated value by the LMA.
previously, we put 1/3ppm = 333 333 as multiplication factor.
from today, we will put 1/1.75ppm ~ 570 000 as multiplication factor.
then, previously we got 50kW, now we should get 85.5kW instead in the same conditions. |
correct parameters for locking the FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about software
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Today, we restarted the FP-cavity locking, after 3 weeks without using it.
those 3 weeks have been used to set the machine ring at the new (better) frequency : 500.067MHz (corresponding to a change of -183kHz)
or 33.3378MHz in fondamental frequency (corresponding to a change of -12.2kHz)
the power supply of FP-cavity photodiodes was OFF maybe due to some electrons losses.
we had to switch it OFF and ON to restart it.
the computer was restarted and we had to restart the applications and set their parameters.
in attachement, the parameters of the Kangoo software.
we had several "warnings" from the laser amplifier software => the amplifier stopped
but maybe it's because of the electrons not sent in the dump which pertubate the monitoring signal levels of the amplifier => to be confirmed
we had to do some alignment.
with 33% of amplifier ratio, we had 49kW inside the FP-cavity.
we tried to move a bit the L-shape mirror but without any significant effect to improve the intra-cavity power.
we didn't start the laser and FP cavities length increase procedure.
surprinsingly, the beating frequency between laser cavity and 33.3378MHz is only 140Hz and not 12kHz as expected.... to be investigated
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correct parameters for locking the FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about software
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this morning I solved the problem of the 33MHz frequency beating which should be ~12kHz between the generator (at the new frequency 33.3378MHz) and the laser cavity frequency (still at the old frequency which is 33.35MHz)...
the generator providing the 33MHz frequency has 2 channels, and only one was set at the proper frequency !
so, I set both channels at 33.3378MHz and now I measure properly ~12kHz of frequency beating.
now, we can move the laser cavity and the FP cavity in confidence.
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Today, we restarted the FP-cavity locking, after 3 weeks without using it.
those 3 weeks have been used to set the machine ring at the new (better) frequency : 500.067MHz (corresponding to a change of -183kHz)
or 33.3378MHz in fondamental frequency (corresponding to a change of -12.2kHz)
the power supply of FP-cavity photodiodes was OFF maybe due to some electrons losses.
we had to switch it OFF and ON to restart it.
the computer was restarted and we had to restart the applications and set their parameters.
in attachement, the parameters of the Kangoo software.
we had several "warnings" from the laser amplifier software => the amplifier stopped
but maybe it's because of the electrons not sent in the dump which pertubate the monitoring signal levels of the amplifier => to be confirmed
we had to do some alignment.
with 33% of amplifier ratio, we had 49kW inside the FP-cavity.
we tried to move a bit the L-shape mirror but without any significant effect to improve the intra-cavity power.
we didn't start the laser and FP cavities length increase procedure.
surprinsingly, the beating frequency between laser cavity and 33.3378MHz is only 140Hz and not 12kHz as expected.... to be investigated
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correct parameters for locking the FP-cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about software
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this morning, I finished the FP-cavity alignment with the new ring RF frequency.
I get back 50kW @ 33% amplifier ratio.
I'm also able to lock very smoothly on the 500MHz ring RF frequency.
so, we are ready to produce X-ray.
warning : apparently, when one changes the 33MHz generator frequency with the "Nicolas" script, it does not change both channels of the generator, which is mandatory for us.
=> to be fixed : freq(CH2) = freq(CH1)
new optimized lock parameters in attached file (Kangoo parameters)
no more "Alphanov amplifier warnings" when one works without the ring machine => it is important/mandatory to send the electrons in the dump.
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this morning I solved the problem of the 33MHz frequency beating which should be ~12kHz between the generator (at the new frequency 33.3378MHz) and the laser cavity frequency (still at the old frequency which is 33.35MHz)...
the generator providing the 33MHz frequency has 2 channels, and only one was set at the proper frequency !
so, I set both channels at 33.3378MHz and now I measure properly ~12kHz of frequency beating.
now, we can move the laser cavity and the FP cavity in confidence.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, we restarted the FP-cavity locking, after 3 weeks without using it.
those 3 weeks have been used to set the machine ring at the new (better) frequency : 500.067MHz (corresponding to a change of -183kHz)
or 33.3378MHz in fondamental frequency (corresponding to a change of -12.2kHz)
the power supply of FP-cavity photodiodes was OFF maybe due to some electrons losses.
we had to switch it OFF and ON to restart it.
the computer was restarted and we had to restart the applications and set their parameters.
in attachement, the parameters of the Kangoo software.
we had several "warnings" from the laser amplifier software => the amplifier stopped
but maybe it's because of the electrons not sent in the dump which pertubate the monitoring signal levels of the amplifier => to be confirmed
we had to do some alignment.
with 33% of amplifier ratio, we had 49kW inside the FP-cavity.
we tried to move a bit the L-shape mirror but without any significant effect to improve the intra-cavity power.
we didn't start the laser and FP cavities length increase procedure.
surprinsingly, the beating frequency between laser cavity and 33.3378MHz is only 140Hz and not 12kHz as expected.... to be investigated
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Laser and FP cavities frequency adjustment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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at the beginning of the procedure, the frequency gap between the new Ring 33MHz frequency (33.3378MHz) and the laser/FP cavities frequency was 12.33kHz
=> the Smaract motor position was at +100µm
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.03 position was at -358 720 steps
the PDin photodiode was at 3.151mW @ 33% amplifier ratio
the PDpulse photodiode was at 33.384MHz
after several moves (each time, one corrects the CEP / alignment to keep ~ 47kW inside the FP-cavity)
we can move the laser cavity at 300nm/s without any laser modelock loss
we move the FP cavity at the same speed (300nm/s = 50 steps/s with 1step = 6nm)
now, we did roughly half of the travel : dF @ 33MHz = 5.3kHz
=> the Smaract motor position was at +1075µm
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.03 position was at -200 000 steps
the PDin photodiode was at 3.178mW @ 33% amplifier ratio
the PDpulse photodiode was at 33.377MHz
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Laser and FP cavities frequency adjustment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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This afternoon, I did the 2nd half of the travel: dF @ 33MHz = 0Hz
=> the Smaract motor position is now at +1750µm
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.03 position stayed at -200 000 steps
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.06 position is now at -790 000 steps
the PDin photodiode was at 3.191mW @ 33% amplifier ratio
the PDpulse photodiode was at 33.372 / 33.371MHz
the FP-cavity power is ~47kW @ 33% amplifier ratio => to be improved
there is no signal beating at 500MHz, only at 33MHz => to be investiguated => fixed
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at the beginning of the procedure, the frequency gap between the new Ring 33MHz frequency (33.3378MHz) and the laser/FP cavities frequency was 12.33kHz
=> the Smaract motor position was at +100µm
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.03 position was at -358 720 steps
the PDin photodiode was at 3.151mW @ 33% amplifier ratio
the PDpulse photodiode was at 33.384MHz
after several moves (each time, one corrects the CEP / alignment to keep ~ 47kW inside the FP-cavity)
we can move the laser cavity at 300nm/s without any laser modelock loss
we move the FP cavity at the same speed (300nm/s = 50 steps/s with 1step = 6nm)
now, we did roughly half of the travel : dF @ 33MHz = 5.3kHz
=> the Smaract motor position was at +1075µm
=> the FP cavity motor Mot.03 position was at -200 000 steps
the PDin photodiode was at 3.178mW @ 33% amplifier ratio
the PDpulse photodiode was at 33.377MHz
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics 
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics 
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
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- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, I firstly connected the HV output of the Laselock to the FP-cavity PZT : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/248
locking the FP-cavity on the local synthesizer works better with the improved HV output range.
the ~20Hz oscillation in the beating signal of the FP-cavity/synthesizer is still there.
one can observe exactly the same oscillation on the Laser PZT signal.
I think the FP-cavity is oscillating at this frequency and the laser PZT correction signal is compensating it.
this oscillation produces also an error signal with the beating of the laser harmonic and the synthesizer.
an other possibility for this low frequency oscillation could be the hexapod stability ?
then, I switched to the 500MHz Ring Synthesizer instead of the local one.
we were able to lock all the elements, FP-cavity and Laser, in a same time.
we have Vp=3.25V of signal amplitude when not locked and dVrms = 140mVrms of rms noise once locked => rms jitter = dVrms / (2pi F Vp) ~ 13.7ps rms
with F=500MHz.
reaching a state where both loops are locked is not simple as :
- the FP-cavity motors are noisy when they move, and one direction has some backlash compensation which produces a long unlock.
- the laser motors are less noisy but too noisy to be moved w/o unlock
- moving the FP-cavity motor changes the laser PZT position and can put the system out of the locking range for the laser PZT.
the correct strategy is :
1) lock the laser on the FP-cavity using the laser motors (no lock of the FP-cavity compare to the synthesizer).
2) wait to have a quite good thermal stabilization => this can take time especially if it is the first lock of the day when the cavity is cold.
3) measure the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer.
4) pre-compensate the direction of the laser PZT with the laser motor when you will play on the FP-cavity motor
ex : a step on the right on P4 motor will move the laser PZT to the top, then you need to pre-compensate this move by placing the laser PZT voltage lower with the laser motor (Smaract).
5) do the move on P4 motor
6) check that the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer is reduced
7) redo 4) 5) 6) until the frequency beating is < 5Hz and stable
8) start the lock on the FP-cavity PZT.
due to the power drifts inducing frequency drifts, it will be difficult to work continuously more than a couple of minutes.
the procedure has to be done continously from 4) to 8)
having HV output on the laser PZT should help to improve both lockings range and inscrease the locking duration => to be checked w/o fast feedback loop (FFL) or with FFL if needed.
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, we were able to lock the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the Ring reference oscillator in a same time from the control room.
the procedure when laser, cavity and reference oscillators are far in frequency, is :
1) start the amplifier to get the laser signal in the reference photodiode used to measure the 33MHz.
2) look at the beating frequency with the reference oscillator and quickly cancel it using the Smaract motors.
one need to remember the direction and distance corrected by the Smaract motors.
3) compensate the motion in the FP-cavity using these rules :
- 600nm with the Smaract motors <=> 100 steps on the FP-cavity motors
- decreasing the value on the Smaract motors <=> increasing the value on the FP-cavity motors
4) start the lock between the laser and FP-cavity
5) adjust both cavity length step by step until reaching < 5Hz of beating
6) start the lock between FP-cavity and reference oscillator
we still see the 20Hz noise both in the PDH error signal and in the laser PZT feedback signal.
it could mean :
either the FP cavity is stable but the Laser cavity is oscillating (noise source) and badly compensated by its own PZT
or the FP cavity is oscillating (noise source) and the Laser cavity is oscillating too (due to feedback) but badly compensated with the laser PZT
the bad compensation in both case could come from a mechanical resonance which produces a phase jump that the PID is not able to properly compensate, even with a high gain (integration).
=> to be checked with a behavorial simulation
the noise source in the laser cavity could be the Smaract motors.
=> we need to switch them off to compare the noise with and without
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this afternoon, I firstly connected the HV output of the Laselock to the FP-cavity PZT : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/248
locking the FP-cavity on the local synthesizer works better with the improved HV output range.
the ~20Hz oscillation in the beating signal of the FP-cavity/synthesizer is still there.
one can observe exactly the same oscillation on the Laser PZT signal.
I think the FP-cavity is oscillating at this frequency and the laser PZT correction signal is compensating it.
this oscillation produces also an error signal with the beating of the laser harmonic and the synthesizer.
an other possibility for this low frequency oscillation could be the hexapod stability ?
then, I switched to the 500MHz Ring Synthesizer instead of the local one.
we were able to lock all the elements, FP-cavity and Laser, in a same time.
we have Vp=3.25V of signal amplitude when not locked and dVrms = 140mVrms of rms noise once locked => rms jitter = dVrms / (2pi F Vp) ~ 13.7ps rms
with F=500MHz.
reaching a state where both loops are locked is not simple as :
- the FP-cavity motors are noisy when they move, and one direction has some backlash compensation which produces a long unlock.
- the laser motors are less noisy but too noisy to be moved w/o unlock
- moving the FP-cavity motor changes the laser PZT position and can put the system out of the locking range for the laser PZT.
the correct strategy is :
1) lock the laser on the FP-cavity using the laser motors (no lock of the FP-cavity compare to the synthesizer).
2) wait to have a quite good thermal stabilization => this can take time especially if it is the first lock of the day when the cavity is cold.
3) measure the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer.
4) pre-compensate the direction of the laser PZT with the laser motor when you will play on the FP-cavity motor
ex : a step on the right on P4 motor will move the laser PZT to the top, then you need to pre-compensate this move by placing the laser PZT voltage lower with the laser motor (Smaract).
5) do the move on P4 motor
6) check that the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer is reduced
7) redo 4) 5) 6) until the frequency beating is < 5Hz and stable
8) start the lock on the FP-cavity PZT.
due to the power drifts inducing frequency drifts, it will be difficult to work continuously more than a couple of minutes.
the procedure has to be done continously from 4) to 8)
having HV output on the laser PZT should help to improve both lockings range and inscrease the locking duration => to be checked w/o fast feedback loop (FFL) or with FFL if needed.
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
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- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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after a sudden FP-cavity Finesse increase, we had to install the Fast Feedback Loop in order to continue to lock the cavity.
this afternoon, I was able to lock both the FP-cavity and the Laser on the 500.25MHz oscillator reference.
I had to change the CEP to reduce the effective Finesse and help to get a better stabililty => P ~ 25kW inside the FP-cavity for 30% of laser amp. power ratio.
the 20Hz oscillation is still there on the PZT signal and can be seen also on the reflected signal when the amplitude of the PZT signal is large or when the lock is lost or almost lost.
this 20Hz signal is modulated by a higher frequency of the reflected signal => to be investigated...
the posts, specific to the 20Hz oscillation noise, are here : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/258
this post closes this thread.
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this afternoon, we were able to lock the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the Ring reference oscillator in a same time from the control room.
the procedure when laser, cavity and reference oscillators are far in frequency, is :
1) start the amplifier to get the laser signal in the reference photodiode used to measure the 33MHz.
2) look at the beating frequency with the reference oscillator and quickly cancel it using the Smaract motors.
one need to remember the direction and distance corrected by the Smaract motors.
3) compensate the motion in the FP-cavity using these rules :
- 600nm with the Smaract motors <=> 100 steps on the FP-cavity motors
- decreasing the value on the Smaract motors <=> increasing the value on the FP-cavity motors
4) start the lock between the laser and FP-cavity
5) adjust both cavity length step by step until reaching < 5Hz of beating
6) start the lock between FP-cavity and reference oscillator
we still see the 20Hz noise both in the PDH error signal and in the laser PZT feedback signal.
it could mean :
either the FP cavity is stable but the Laser cavity is oscillating (noise source) and badly compensated by its own PZT
or the FP cavity is oscillating (noise source) and the Laser cavity is oscillating too (due to feedback) but badly compensated with the laser PZT
the bad compensation in both case could come from a mechanical resonance which produces a phase jump that the PID is not able to properly compensate, even with a high gain (integration).
=> to be checked with a behavorial simulation
the noise source in the laser cavity could be the Smaract motors.
=> we need to switch them off to compare the noise with and without
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this afternoon, I firstly connected the HV output of the Laselock to the FP-cavity PZT : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/248
locking the FP-cavity on the local synthesizer works better with the improved HV output range.
the ~20Hz oscillation in the beating signal of the FP-cavity/synthesizer is still there.
one can observe exactly the same oscillation on the Laser PZT signal.
I think the FP-cavity is oscillating at this frequency and the laser PZT correction signal is compensating it.
this oscillation produces also an error signal with the beating of the laser harmonic and the synthesizer.
an other possibility for this low frequency oscillation could be the hexapod stability ?
then, I switched to the 500MHz Ring Synthesizer instead of the local one.
we were able to lock all the elements, FP-cavity and Laser, in a same time.
we have Vp=3.25V of signal amplitude when not locked and dVrms = 140mVrms of rms noise once locked => rms jitter = dVrms / (2pi F Vp) ~ 13.7ps rms
with F=500MHz.
reaching a state where both loops are locked is not simple as :
- the FP-cavity motors are noisy when they move, and one direction has some backlash compensation which produces a long unlock.
- the laser motors are less noisy but too noisy to be moved w/o unlock
- moving the FP-cavity motor changes the laser PZT position and can put the system out of the locking range for the laser PZT.
the correct strategy is :
1) lock the laser on the FP-cavity using the laser motors (no lock of the FP-cavity compare to the synthesizer).
2) wait to have a quite good thermal stabilization => this can take time especially if it is the first lock of the day when the cavity is cold.
3) measure the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer.
4) pre-compensate the direction of the laser PZT with the laser motor when you will play on the FP-cavity motor
ex : a step on the right on P4 motor will move the laser PZT to the top, then you need to pre-compensate this move by placing the laser PZT voltage lower with the laser motor (Smaract).
5) do the move on P4 motor
6) check that the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer is reduced
7) redo 4) 5) 6) until the frequency beating is < 5Hz and stable
8) start the lock on the FP-cavity PZT.
due to the power drifts inducing frequency drifts, it will be difficult to work continuously more than a couple of minutes.
the procedure has to be done continously from 4) to 8)
having HV output on the laser PZT should help to improve both lockings range and inscrease the locking duration => to be checked w/o fast feedback loop (FFL) or with FFL if needed.
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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This morning with Daniele, we changed the laser/RF locking scheme :
1) we use the laser 33MHz internal photodiode to do some beating with the 33MHz RF generator (A Rigol generator locked on the 500MHz Ring oscillator).
this beating is only for monitoring purpose, in order to manually adjust the laser frequency at the beginning of a run.
2) the previous scheme was using a fast photodiode in reflection of the FP cavity to do some beating with the 500MHz Ring RF generator,
but the beating signal was becoming very noisy when the FP-cavity was locked.
so, we moved this fast photodiode in transmission of the FP-cavity, in addition to the slow one (already connected to the scope to monitor the transmitted power).
this fast photodiode is used to extract the 500MHz harmonics to make the beating with the 500MHz Ring RF generator.
now, this beating signal is very clean when the FP-cavity is locked (no signal when the FP-cavity is not locked, obviously).
=> the acquisition of the lock of the 2 feedback loops seems much more easy and stable.
BUT we did a jitter measurement and it is still around 10-15ps rms and seems to be dominated by the 20Hz noise oscillation !!!
some previous measurements showed that this oscillation should come from the laser or from the Alphanov amplifier (not from the FP-cavity).
we have to redo a beating test with the Alphanov amplifier @ 500MHz and with the laser @ 33MHz...
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after a sudden FP-cavity Finesse increase, we had to install the Fast Feedback Loop in order to continue to lock the cavity.
this afternoon, I was able to lock both the FP-cavity and the Laser on the 500.25MHz oscillator reference.
I had to change the CEP to reduce the effective Finesse and help to get a better stabililty => P ~ 25kW inside the FP-cavity for 30% of laser amp. power ratio.
the 20Hz oscillation is still there on the PZT signal and can be seen also on the reflected signal when the amplitude of the PZT signal is large or when the lock is lost or almost lost.
this 20Hz signal is modulated by a higher frequency of the reflected signal => to be investigated...
the posts, specific to the 20Hz oscillation noise, are here : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/258
this post closes this thread.
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this afternoon, we were able to lock the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the Ring reference oscillator in a same time from the control room.
the procedure when laser, cavity and reference oscillators are far in frequency, is :
1) start the amplifier to get the laser signal in the reference photodiode used to measure the 33MHz.
2) look at the beating frequency with the reference oscillator and quickly cancel it using the Smaract motors.
one need to remember the direction and distance corrected by the Smaract motors.
3) compensate the motion in the FP-cavity using these rules :
- 600nm with the Smaract motors <=> 100 steps on the FP-cavity motors
- decreasing the value on the Smaract motors <=> increasing the value on the FP-cavity motors
4) start the lock between the laser and FP-cavity
5) adjust both cavity length step by step until reaching < 5Hz of beating
6) start the lock between FP-cavity and reference oscillator
we still see the 20Hz noise both in the PDH error signal and in the laser PZT feedback signal.
it could mean :
either the FP cavity is stable but the Laser cavity is oscillating (noise source) and badly compensated by its own PZT
or the FP cavity is oscillating (noise source) and the Laser cavity is oscillating too (due to feedback) but badly compensated with the laser PZT
the bad compensation in both case could come from a mechanical resonance which produces a phase jump that the PID is not able to properly compensate, even with a high gain (integration).
=> to be checked with a behavorial simulation
the noise source in the laser cavity could be the Smaract motors.
=> we need to switch them off to compare the noise with and without
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this afternoon, I firstly connected the HV output of the Laselock to the FP-cavity PZT : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/248
locking the FP-cavity on the local synthesizer works better with the improved HV output range.
the ~20Hz oscillation in the beating signal of the FP-cavity/synthesizer is still there.
one can observe exactly the same oscillation on the Laser PZT signal.
I think the FP-cavity is oscillating at this frequency and the laser PZT correction signal is compensating it.
this oscillation produces also an error signal with the beating of the laser harmonic and the synthesizer.
an other possibility for this low frequency oscillation could be the hexapod stability ?
then, I switched to the 500MHz Ring Synthesizer instead of the local one.
we were able to lock all the elements, FP-cavity and Laser, in a same time.
we have Vp=3.25V of signal amplitude when not locked and dVrms = 140mVrms of rms noise once locked => rms jitter = dVrms / (2pi F Vp) ~ 13.7ps rms
with F=500MHz.
reaching a state where both loops are locked is not simple as :
- the FP-cavity motors are noisy when they move, and one direction has some backlash compensation which produces a long unlock.
- the laser motors are less noisy but too noisy to be moved w/o unlock
- moving the FP-cavity motor changes the laser PZT position and can put the system out of the locking range for the laser PZT.
the correct strategy is :
1) lock the laser on the FP-cavity using the laser motors (no lock of the FP-cavity compare to the synthesizer).
2) wait to have a quite good thermal stabilization => this can take time especially if it is the first lock of the day when the cavity is cold.
3) measure the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer.
4) pre-compensate the direction of the laser PZT with the laser motor when you will play on the FP-cavity motor
ex : a step on the right on P4 motor will move the laser PZT to the top, then you need to pre-compensate this move by placing the laser PZT voltage lower with the laser motor (Smaract).
5) do the move on P4 motor
6) check that the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer is reduced
7) redo 4) 5) 6) until the frequency beating is < 5Hz and stable
8) start the lock on the FP-cavity PZT.
due to the power drifts inducing frequency drifts, it will be difficult to work continuously more than a couple of minutes.
the procedure has to be done continously from 4) to 8)
having HV output on the laser PZT should help to improve both lockings range and inscrease the locking duration => to be checked w/o fast feedback loop (FFL) or with FFL if needed.
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
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- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics 
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured. |
Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics  
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Now, I placed a temperature probe stuck on the laser housing itself.
fig. 1
one can compare the temperature measured at the surface of the laser housing and the beating frequency with the 500MHz reference oscillator
one sees a possible very long term correlation but there is no correlation at the minute level when we see the frequency oscillation after t=2000s.
the laser housing temperature seems not to induce directly a frequency variation.
fig 2 / 3
we applied 15W on the heating wire rolled around the FP-cavity flange.
in red, we see the temperature increasing on the probe rolled around the wire, reaching almost 30°C.
we heat the inside of the housing (airflow stopped) during more than 30 minutes
in green, we don't see any variation (even if one makes a zoom) of the temperature of the probe stuck on the laser housing.
in same time, on fig 3, one can see the frequency drift.
there is no correlation between the oscillations and the temperature.
CONCLUSION :
the laser frequency fluctuations does not seem to come from the outside temperature.
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured.
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Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics  
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the last thing we did with Daniele, is to start/stop the airflow on top of the housing (closed) to see a possible pressure effect on the laser frequency drift.
fig 1 : in green, the temperature measured with the probe stuck on the laser housing.
one can clearly see the 2 "start - wait ~10mins - stop" we did at 16h50 then at 17h30.
the air temperature blowed by the airflow is cooler than the housing temperature and we see the effect on the probe.
fig 2 : this is the laser frequency drift during the 1st airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 100 iterations and stopped at 500 iterations (~5 mins)
we don't see any correlation
fig 3 : this is again the laser frequency drift during the 2nd airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 1850 iterations and stopped at 2550 iterations (~10 mins)
we don't see any correlation
CONCLUSION : neither external temperature change or pressure variations can explain the 10-20min period oscillations observed on the laser frequency variations.
it can be either the laser temperature regulation or the RF reference oscillator temperature regulation (due to the oven of the quartz)
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Now, I placed a temperature probe stuck on the laser housing itself.
fig. 1
one can compare the temperature measured at the surface of the laser housing and the beating frequency with the 500MHz reference oscillator
one sees a possible very long term correlation but there is no correlation at the minute level when we see the frequency oscillation after t=2000s.
the laser housing temperature seems not to induce directly a frequency variation.
fig 2 / 3
we applied 15W on the heating wire rolled around the FP-cavity flange.
in red, we see the temperature increasing on the probe rolled around the wire, reaching almost 30°C.
we heat the inside of the housing (airflow stopped) during more than 30 minutes
in green, we don't see any variation (even if one makes a zoom) of the temperature of the probe stuck on the laser housing.
in same time, on fig 3, one can see the frequency drift.
there is no correlation between the oscillations and the temperature.
CONCLUSION :
the laser frequency fluctuations does not seem to come from the outside temperature.
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured.
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Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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today, I swapped the 500MHz RF reference oscillator for a Siglent 500MHz DDS oscillator.
see the attached plot : the beating frequency with the 500MHz laser harmonics produces the same behavior as before.
so, the oscillations should come from the laser temperature regulation.
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the last thing we did with Daniele, is to start/stop the airflow on top of the housing (closed) to see a possible pressure effect on the laser frequency drift.
fig 1 : in green, the temperature measured with the probe stuck on the laser housing.
one can clearly see the 2 "start - wait ~10mins - stop" we did at 16h50 then at 17h30.
the air temperature blowed by the airflow is cooler than the housing temperature and we see the effect on the probe.
fig 2 : this is the laser frequency drift during the 1st airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 100 iterations and stopped at 500 iterations (~5 mins)
we don't see any correlation
fig 3 : this is again the laser frequency drift during the 2nd airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 1850 iterations and stopped at 2550 iterations (~10 mins)
we don't see any correlation
CONCLUSION : neither external temperature change or pressure variations can explain the 10-20min period oscillations observed on the laser frequency variations.
it can be either the laser temperature regulation or the RF reference oscillator temperature regulation (due to the oven of the quartz)
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Now, I placed a temperature probe stuck on the laser housing itself.
fig. 1
one can compare the temperature measured at the surface of the laser housing and the beating frequency with the 500MHz reference oscillator
one sees a possible very long term correlation but there is no correlation at the minute level when we see the frequency oscillation after t=2000s.
the laser housing temperature seems not to induce directly a frequency variation.
fig 2 / 3
we applied 15W on the heating wire rolled around the FP-cavity flange.
in red, we see the temperature increasing on the probe rolled around the wire, reaching almost 30°C.
we heat the inside of the housing (airflow stopped) during more than 30 minutes
in green, we don't see any variation (even if one makes a zoom) of the temperature of the probe stuck on the laser housing.
in same time, on fig 3, one can see the frequency drift.
there is no correlation between the oscillations and the temperature.
CONCLUSION :
the laser frequency fluctuations does not seem to come from the outside temperature.
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured.
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Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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long-term correlation, over 5-6 days, between the temperature measured in the bunker, outside of the housing (blue curve) and the temperature measured with a probe stuck on the laser housing, inside of the FP-cavity housing (green).
it's a perfect correlation with almost the same temperature scale : 1°C outisde the housing => 1°C of laser housing
thus, a stabilization of the temperature, inside of the housing, could help to reduce the frequency drifts of the laser.
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today, I swapped the 500MHz RF reference oscillator for a Siglent 500MHz DDS oscillator.
see the attached plot : the beating frequency with the 500MHz laser harmonics produces the same behavior as before.
so, the oscillations should come from the laser temperature regulation.
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the last thing we did with Daniele, is to start/stop the airflow on top of the housing (closed) to see a possible pressure effect on the laser frequency drift.
fig 1 : in green, the temperature measured with the probe stuck on the laser housing.
one can clearly see the 2 "start - wait ~10mins - stop" we did at 16h50 then at 17h30.
the air temperature blowed by the airflow is cooler than the housing temperature and we see the effect on the probe.
fig 2 : this is the laser frequency drift during the 1st airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 100 iterations and stopped at 500 iterations (~5 mins)
we don't see any correlation
fig 3 : this is again the laser frequency drift during the 2nd airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 1850 iterations and stopped at 2550 iterations (~10 mins)
we don't see any correlation
CONCLUSION : neither external temperature change or pressure variations can explain the 10-20min period oscillations observed on the laser frequency variations.
it can be either the laser temperature regulation or the RF reference oscillator temperature regulation (due to the oven of the quartz)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Now, I placed a temperature probe stuck on the laser housing itself.
fig. 1
one can compare the temperature measured at the surface of the laser housing and the beating frequency with the 500MHz reference oscillator
one sees a possible very long term correlation but there is no correlation at the minute level when we see the frequency oscillation after t=2000s.
the laser housing temperature seems not to induce directly a frequency variation.
fig 2 / 3
we applied 15W on the heating wire rolled around the FP-cavity flange.
in red, we see the temperature increasing on the probe rolled around the wire, reaching almost 30°C.
we heat the inside of the housing (airflow stopped) during more than 30 minutes
in green, we don't see any variation (even if one makes a zoom) of the temperature of the probe stuck on the laser housing.
in same time, on fig 3, one can see the frequency drift.
there is no correlation between the oscillations and the temperature.
CONCLUSION :
the laser frequency fluctuations does not seem to come from the outside temperature.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured.
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Laser cavity temperature/pressure sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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this morning, I did a 500MHz beating frequency (Laser vs RF) drift test with the Smaract motors configured with "Sensor Mode" OFF over 50 minutes (~ 1500 acquisitions)
compared with previous measurements, one observes a much more smooth "exponential-like" drift compared to "Sensor Mode" ON (see previous posts).
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long-term correlation, over 5-6 days, between the temperature measured in the bunker, outside of the housing (blue curve) and the temperature measured with a probe stuck on the laser housing, inside of the FP-cavity housing (green).
it's a perfect correlation with almost the same temperature scale : 1°C outisde the housing => 1°C of laser housing
thus, a stabilization of the temperature, inside of the housing, could help to reduce the frequency drifts of the laser.
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today, I swapped the 500MHz RF reference oscillator for a Siglent 500MHz DDS oscillator.
see the attached plot : the beating frequency with the 500MHz laser harmonics produces the same behavior as before.
so, the oscillations should come from the laser temperature regulation.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the last thing we did with Daniele, is to start/stop the airflow on top of the housing (closed) to see a possible pressure effect on the laser frequency drift.
fig 1 : in green, the temperature measured with the probe stuck on the laser housing.
one can clearly see the 2 "start - wait ~10mins - stop" we did at 16h50 then at 17h30.
the air temperature blowed by the airflow is cooler than the housing temperature and we see the effect on the probe.
fig 2 : this is the laser frequency drift during the 1st airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 100 iterations and stopped at 500 iterations (~5 mins)
we don't see any correlation
fig 3 : this is again the laser frequency drift during the 2nd airflow start/stop
the airflow has been turned on at 1850 iterations and stopped at 2550 iterations (~10 mins)
we don't see any correlation
CONCLUSION : neither external temperature change or pressure variations can explain the 10-20min period oscillations observed on the laser frequency variations.
it can be either the laser temperature regulation or the RF reference oscillator temperature regulation (due to the oven of the quartz)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Now, I placed a temperature probe stuck on the laser housing itself.
fig. 1
one can compare the temperature measured at the surface of the laser housing and the beating frequency with the 500MHz reference oscillator
one sees a possible very long term correlation but there is no correlation at the minute level when we see the frequency oscillation after t=2000s.
the laser housing temperature seems not to induce directly a frequency variation.
fig 2 / 3
we applied 15W on the heating wire rolled around the FP-cavity flange.
in red, we see the temperature increasing on the probe rolled around the wire, reaching almost 30°C.
we heat the inside of the housing (airflow stopped) during more than 30 minutes
in green, we don't see any variation (even if one makes a zoom) of the temperature of the probe stuck on the laser housing.
in same time, on fig 3, one can see the frequency drift.
there is no correlation between the oscillations and the temperature.
CONCLUSION :
the laser frequency fluctuations does not seem to come from the outside temperature.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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laser cavity :
when one decreases the laser motor position, the laser repetition rate increases (laser cavity length decreases).
=> +/- laser motor step => +/- laser cavity roundtrip length => -/+ laser repetition rate => -/+ laser harmonic @500MHz
=> +/- 100nm => +/- 200nm => -/+ 0.7Hz @33.33MHz => -/+ 10Hz @500MHz
here is the natural variation of the laser cavity frequency beating with RF @500MHz over 1h (~1.6s / iteration)
one can see some oscillations equivalent to ~1µm of roundtrip length with ~10 minutes period and maybe a slower drift or oscillation with ~2µm of roundtrip range over the hour.
I mention that I moved the laser "PZT" motor before taking the data : could it be the reason of the 10-20min oscillations ?
during the same time, here is a probe temperature curve (the probe in stuck on the end flange, close to X-hutch, of the FP-cavity, inside the housing... not close to the laser position).
the temperature variation range is ~2.5/100 °C which induces on inox (relative length thermal effect : 17e-6 /K) a length variation of 4µm of roundtrip (10m) which could be compatible to the laser cavity length variation measured.
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locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics 
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during the last days we changed the FP-cavity - RF reference locking system to force the right bucket:
in addition to the 500MHz beating which is the signal input to the PID, we added a 33MHz beating signal which is the trigger signal of the PID.
then, the lock is triggered only when this trigger signal is close to 0.
as the peak input signal is Ap = 0.5V, the beating signal is Ap*sin(phi)
one needs a phi determination below 2pi/15 which correspond to a particular 500MHz bucket (500MHz/33MHz = 15).
so, Ap*sin(+/- 2pi/30) = +/- 0.2*Ap = +/- 0.1V
we should be able to put a trigger intervalle value between -0.1V and +0.1V to always fall into the same bucket.
we did a test with -0.05V et +0.05V and we always fall into the same bucket => we will have to test the intervalle -0.1V / +0.1V to check if it is ok or not.
as the crossing is around 0V, there is 2 possible locking trigger phase position with Pi intervalle.
for the moment, there is no way to get rid of this problem. one can only let the phase drift until it reaches the right phase to start the lock.
if one tries to detect the maximum or minimum value to fall into the same bucket, the voltage level is very sensitive :
Ap*sin(pi/2 +/- pi/30) = 0.995 * Ap => it has to be sensitive at 0.5% !
we changed also some locking condition on the 2 Laselock PID regulators : see the attached picture.
search and relock : reset mode with 0V for both => when the 2 PID are losing the lock, they search a new lock starting with the same 0V value on the PZT (it can prevent they are out of range in some cases)
with these condition, it seems the lock is quicker to come back.
we can check the phase bucket with the remote oscilloscope at the IP address : 192.168.229.21 (see attached picture)
blue : trigger signal @ 10Hz (will be 50Hz in next ThomX update)
red : reference 33MHz signal, phase linked with the 500MHz of the ring
yellow : laser 33MHz signal (need to have always the same phase relation with the reference 33MHz when locked to RF reference)
the rms jitter with the RF reference is still ~15ps => to be improved...
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33MHz (FP-cavity vs RF) phase stability, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, with Vincent Chaumat, we made a beating (phase detection) between the laser 33MHz and the 33MHz coming from the Rigol generator locked by the 10MHz link onto the 500MHz ring generator.
once the laser and the FP-cavity are locked on the RF reference, the 33MHz phase detection is stabilized and confirm the laser/FP-cavity lock on the RF reference.
we plan to make a drift measurement and a jitter measurement to estimate this lock quality.
the 33MHz frequency being quite small, the quality of this estimation will be poor but it can give a "worse case" estimation. |
33MHz (FP-cavity vs RF) phase stability, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, I locked the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the RF reference with 47kW inside the FP-cavity.
equivalent jitter :
when lock is OFF : sine signal V=V0*sin(phi(t)) with V0=300mV => Vrms = 300/sqrt(2)) = 210mV rms
when lock is ON : noise 10mV < dV < 20mV
for low phase values : dV=V0*dphi
when the RF locking is done, this voltage is about dV = 20mV rms => dphi = dV/V0 = 67 mrad
dphi = 2*pi*f0*dt => jitter dt = dphi/(2*pi*f0) = dV * T0/(2*pi*V0)
T0/(2*pi*V0) ~ 1ps/mV => jitter ~ 10-20 ps rms
previous measurements were exhibiting a jitter lower than 5ps rms : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/299
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this morning, with Vincent Chaumat, we made a beating (phase detection) between the laser 33MHz and the 33MHz coming from the Rigol generator locked by the 10MHz link onto the 500MHz ring generator.
once the laser and the FP-cavity are locked on the RF reference, the 33MHz phase detection is stabilized and confirm the laser/FP-cavity lock on the RF reference.
we plan to make a drift measurement and a jitter measurement to estimate this lock quality.
the 33MHz frequency being quite small, the quality of this estimation will be poor but it can give a "worse case" estimation.
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controller M1 & M4 (plan mirrors) with IcePap controllers, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | cabling
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previously, we have connected motor M4 with an IcePap controller.
see this post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/278
due to the backlash behavior of the FP-cavity motors, it is impossible to work in both directions on one motor when the FP-cavity is locked.
so, we decided to use also the motor M1 to work in the other direction.
then, normally M1 will work in one direction and M4 in the other direction.
motor M1 (or P1Z) which was on the axis 9 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.06
motor M4 (or P4Z) which was on the axis 12 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.03
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controller M1 & M4 (plan mirrors) with IcePap controllers, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | cabling
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this double motors scheme works good.
if motor P4 is used by increasing value, the FP-cavityPZT signal (pink signal on scope) goes HIGHER
if motor P1 is used by increasing value, the FP-cavityPZT signal (pink signal on scope) goes LOWER
!!! CAREFUL !!!
after each session, it is mandatory to put the motors back to their initial position to avoid FP-cavity misalignment.
on P1 : - 900 000 steps
on P4 : - 360 000 steps
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previously, we have connected motor M4 with an IcePap controller.
see this post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/278
due to the backlash behavior of the FP-cavity motors, it is impossible to work in both directions on one motor when the FP-cavity is locked.
so, we decided to use also the motor M1 to work in the other direction.
then, normally M1 will work in one direction and M4 in the other direction.
motor M1 (or P1Z) which was on the axis 9 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.06
motor M4 (or P4Z) which was on the axis 12 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.03
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controller M1 & M4 (plan mirrors) with IcePap controllers, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | cabling
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at the begining of each session, it will be mandatory to avoid any backlash for the motors :
- for the P4 motor : one can go 2k steps DOWN, then 2k steps UP to go back to -360 000 and use the steps UP without any backlash
- for the P1 motor : one can go 2k steps UP, then 2k steps DOWN to go back to -900 000 and use the steps DOWN without any backlash
today, I used the P1 motor to do some steps DOWN to find back the main resonance at the begining of the session.
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this double motors scheme works good.
if motor P4 is used by increasing value, the FP-cavityPZT signal (pink signal on scope) goes HIGHER
if motor P1 is used by increasing value, the FP-cavityPZT signal (pink signal on scope) goes LOWER
!!! CAREFUL !!!
after each session, it is mandatory to put the motors back to their initial position to avoid FP-cavity misalignment.
on P1 : - 900 000 steps
on P4 : - 360 000 steps
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previously, we have connected motor M4 with an IcePap controller.
see this post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/278
due to the backlash behavior of the FP-cavity motors, it is impossible to work in both directions on one motor when the FP-cavity is locked.
so, we decided to use also the motor M1 to work in the other direction.
then, normally M1 will work in one direction and M4 in the other direction.
motor M1 (or P1Z) which was on the axis 9 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.06
motor M4 (or P4Z) which was on the axis 12 on the ISP controller has been assigned to OC/OP/OCH.01-MOT.03
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First stable X-rays production, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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this morning, we locked the laser on the FP-cavity with about 48-49kW stable in the FP-cavity (for 32% of amplifier ratio).
and then we locked the FP-cavity on the RF reference (500MHz beating lock + 33MHz beating for starting lock search).
the starting lock search voltage has been chosen between -20mV and +20mV.
then we lock with an uncertainty of 180°... but we can check the lock phase with the "Synchro oscilloscope" (192.168.229.21).
if necessary, we can stop the lock and let the phase drift and then relock with the right phase.
Kevin did a buckets scan (30ns by 2ns steps) to find the right bucket and also a fine phase tuning scan (2ns scan).
unfortunately, the fine phase was close to 0, so the Laselock did the fine phase adjustement by changing the SetPoint of the RF loop to : -720mV
at this moment, we got relatively stable X-rays at an approximated flux of 1e10 photons/s
we still need to optimize phase, table position and improve the jitters...
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Adding one photodiode in reflection, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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this morning, I added a DET36 photodiode in reflection (I used a thin beam splitter) to better measure the coupling over the full beam size.
this DET36 photodiode is sent to the "laser locking" oscilloscope with the other signals :
CH1 :transmission
CH2 : reflection
CH3 : error signal or FP-cavity PZT (depending on the Laselock Monitor 1 signal configuration)
CH4 : laser PZT (Laselock Monitor 2 signal)
I kept the DET10 photodiode in reflection, but slightly misaligned to get the 500MHz laser harmonic without too much amplitude variation when locked (the lock behavior changes almost the center of the beam).
the DET10 photodiode is sent to the "RF locking" oscilloscope on CH1 |
Restarting equipements after Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this morning, I plugged back the 4 power cables which supply all the equipments.
all the equipments have restarted without problem, but the shutter of the laser amplifier needs a ThomX safety system grant to let the beam propagate to the cavity...
and then continue the commissioning of the restart after Christmas shutdown. |
Restarting equipements after Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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the laser coupled into the amplifier is still measured at ~3mW at the input, on the Alphanov software, once the Amp stage are started at 0% of power ratio.
this afternoon, Kevin restarted the 3rd safety system of ThomX to grant the opening of the beam shutter => now the shutter can be opened.
after adjusting the phase for the PDH system, I was able to find back the laser/CFP lock.
after some minimal alignement, one gets back 50kW for 30.5% of laser amplifier ratio, as before the Christmas shutdown.
I didn't try to lock the FP cavity on the 500MHz RF reference clock as I'm not sure if it has been set to 500.25MHz (as before shutdown) or at 500.1MHz (the future RF frequency) which is very far and will require to move the FP cavity on a long rage.
=> I will ask to Vincent Chaumat to confirm the present RF frequency.
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this morning, I plugged back the 4 power cables which supply all the equipments.
all the equipments have restarted without problem, but the shutter of the laser amplifier needs a ThomX safety system grant to let the beam propagate to the cavity...
and then continue the commissioning of the restart after Christmas shutdown.
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Restarting equipements after Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this morning, I set the Ring frequency at 500.25MHz and after switching ON the power supply of the amplifiers for the RF signal coming from the laser,
I saw the beating frequency (between ring RF and laser harmonic frerquencies at 500.25MHz) that I canceled, playing with the Smaract motor.
Now, I need to adjust the FP-cavity length to follow the laser cavity length but the IcePap DS (controlling the FP-cavity motor) freezes too often and it is almost impossible to make the adjustment.
Kevin sent a GLPI ticket to try to solve this problem.... waiting for IT answer...
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the laser coupled into the amplifier is still measured at ~3mW at the input, on the Alphanov software, once the Amp stage are started at 0% of power ratio.
this afternoon, Kevin restarted the 3rd safety system of ThomX to grant the opening of the beam shutter => now the shutter can be opened.
after adjusting the phase for the PDH system, I was able to find back the laser/CFP lock.
after some minimal alignement, one gets back 50kW for 30.5% of laser amplifier ratio, as before the Christmas shutdown.
I didn't try to lock the FP cavity on the 500MHz RF reference clock as I'm not sure if it has been set to 500.25MHz (as before shutdown) or at 500.1MHz (the future RF frequency) which is very far and will require to move the FP cavity on a long rage.
=> I will ask to Vincent Chaumat to confirm the present RF frequency.
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this morning, I plugged back the 4 power cables which supply all the equipments.
all the equipments have restarted without problem, but the shutter of the laser amplifier needs a ThomX safety system grant to let the beam propagate to the cavity...
and then continue the commissioning of the restart after Christmas shutdown.
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Restarting equipements after Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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on last friday (12/01/2024), the IcePap DS issue was solved and I was able to control the FP-cavity motors properly.
I was able to quickly lock either the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the RF reference as before.
then, we can close these posts on restarting the equipments after the Christmas shutdown
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this morning, I set the Ring frequency at 500.25MHz and after switching ON the power supply of the amplifiers for the RF signal coming from the laser,
I saw the beating frequency (between ring RF and laser harmonic frerquencies at 500.25MHz) that I canceled, playing with the Smaract motor.
Now, I need to adjust the FP-cavity length to follow the laser cavity length but the IcePap DS (controlling the FP-cavity motor) freezes too often and it is almost impossible to make the adjustment.
Kevin sent a GLPI ticket to try to solve this problem.... waiting for IT answer...
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the laser coupled into the amplifier is still measured at ~3mW at the input, on the Alphanov software, once the Amp stage are started at 0% of power ratio.
this afternoon, Kevin restarted the 3rd safety system of ThomX to grant the opening of the beam shutter => now the shutter can be opened.
after adjusting the phase for the PDH system, I was able to find back the laser/CFP lock.
after some minimal alignement, one gets back 50kW for 30.5% of laser amplifier ratio, as before the Christmas shutdown.
I didn't try to lock the FP cavity on the 500MHz RF reference clock as I'm not sure if it has been set to 500.25MHz (as before shutdown) or at 500.1MHz (the future RF frequency) which is very far and will require to move the FP cavity on a long rage.
=> I will ask to Vincent Chaumat to confirm the present RF frequency.
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this morning, I plugged back the 4 power cables which supply all the equipments.
all the equipments have restarted without problem, but the shutter of the laser amplifier needs a ThomX safety system grant to let the beam propagate to the cavity...
and then continue the commissioning of the restart after Christmas shutdown.
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Variable focal lens validation, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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we plan to use Electrically Tunable Lenses EL-10-30-C NIR to build the ThomX telescope but they need to be compatible with the powerful laser beam.
for CW regime, on the datasheet (see attached file), the optical damage threshold is 10 kW/cm².
with 70W laser power and 1mm² beam surface (which is much smaller than the real beam size), we are at 7kW/cm².
for pulsed regime, with Daniele, we can imagine that the inner material is water (n ~ 1.3 in the datasheet).
One found a paper about laser induced electric breakdown in water (see attached paper) which give a breakdown field of about 1e8 V/m (see Fig. 1 of the paper) for 7ns pulse width.
with 70W average power, 33MHz repetition rate, 10ps pulse width 1mm² beam surface, one has an intensity of ~ 2e11 W/m² (or 2.7 GW/cm²)
I = E² / 377 => E = 8.7e6 V/m which is also much smaller than the breakdown value.
from the fig. 4 of the paper, it seems the breakdown threshold increases a lot for shorter pulses from 30 GW/cm² (~10ns pulses) to ~150 GW/cm² (~10ps pulses)
so, one can expect a good behavior in pulsed regime too.
can anyone check the validity of these rough calculations ???
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Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this morning, I shut off all the equipements (especially the computer) except the ones powered by the UPS : laser controller, laser peltier controller, laser motors controller.
and I disconnected the cables from the power plugs of the wall (to prevent any possible overvoltage).
Jean-Noël Cayla will need to shut off the electrical shelf (the one powering the UPS) during the afternoon, I will check at this moment if the laser controller is still properly powered thanks to the UPS. |
Christmas shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | software
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this afternoon, I checked visually what happens when the AC power of the UPS is broken down => the laser controller has still its "emission" button ON... no AC interruption.
so, I guess the UPS switched properly the output AC line from the input AC line to the internal batteries.
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this morning, I shut off all the equipements (especially the computer) except the ones powered by the UPS : laser controller, laser peltier controller, laser motors controller.
and I disconnected the cables from the power plugs of the wall (to prevent any possible overvoltage).
Jean-Noël Cayla will need to shut off the electrical shelf (the one powering the UPS) during the afternoon, I will check at this moment if the laser controller is still properly powered thanks to the UPS.
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C |
Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, I removed one of the DC voltage supply (as with 30V, we are already able to 30°C on the heating cable).
the remaining DC voltage supply is configured in series (2x30V = 60V max) and is at the IP address : 192.168.1.101
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, I started the heating cable after the warm-up of the FP-cavity :
14h20 : start to fill 50kW in the cavity
15h : start of the heating cable @10V (2x 5V) (iteration 2300)
15h16 : start of the heating cable @60V (2x 30V) (iteration 3400)
15h20 : start of the heating cable @20V (2x 10V) (iteration 3600)
the offset frequency, for 20V of voltage on the DC voltage supply, is 175Hz @500MHz (equivalent to 3.5µm)
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today, I removed one of the DC voltage supply (as with 30V, we are already able to 30°C on the heating cable).
the remaining DC voltage supply is configured in series (2x30V = 60V max) and is at the IP address : 192.168.1.101
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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last friday, I locked the cavity and then, switched ON the heating cable after waiting the cavity reaches a steady state in frequency drift : see the figure.
blue : temperature of the probe on the heating cable
red : freqeuncy drift between FP-cavity (laser locked on it) and RF reference oscillator.
@ 10min : filling the FP-cavity with 50kW
@ 50min : "long" lock loss of about 1min => jumb in frequency => it is strange to see the cavity does not reach the same frequency steady state after the lock loss than before the lock loss.
(just before the small frequency jump, the frequency is increasing a bit because of the lock has been lost and the laser is drifting by itself in open loop. the jump, after that, corresponds to the moment where the laser is locked back to the FP-cavity)
@ 55min : switch ON the heating cable with 20V on the voltage supply => the probe stuck on the cable shows the temperature increases => and a bit later, one can see the frequency decreasing.
surprisingly, we don't reach a steady state ...
I suspect that filling the FP-cavity with power (without switching ON the heating cable) could first inscrease the frequency and later could decrease it if several parts of the mechanics are involved and if the thermal conduction is slow because of some isolation embbedded in the mechanics (for example ceramics balls).
it is possible to make the frequency drifting sensitivity test of the heating cable without locking the cavity at 50kW.
one can work in open loop, without power in the FP-cavity, and follow the frequency drift by keeping the main resonance at the same relative position to the laser PZT.
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this afternoon, I started the heating cable after the warm-up of the FP-cavity :
14h20 : start to fill 50kW in the cavity
15h : start of the heating cable @10V (2x 5V) (iteration 2300)
15h16 : start of the heating cable @60V (2x 30V) (iteration 3400)
15h20 : start of the heating cable @20V (2x 10V) (iteration 3600)
the offset frequency, for 20V of voltage on the DC voltage supply, is 175Hz @500MHz (equivalent to 3.5µm)
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today, I removed one of the DC voltage supply (as with 30V, we are already able to 30°C on the heating cable).
the remaining DC voltage supply is configured in series (2x30V = 60V max) and is at the IP address : 192.168.1.101
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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on last tuesday, I did a long-term measurement of the frequency drift when the heating cable is powered ON at 20V (2x 10V) @ t=0mn.
the freqeuncy drift (between the laser, locked in open loop on the FP-cavity, and the RF reference oscillator) acquisition was made by the National Instrument software.
the sampling rate of this acquisition is not set by the user but depends on several parameters of the acquisition... and then can be subject to change.
on can see on the data, in blue, a possible sampling rate change @ t~30mn.
@ t~100mn : the frequency sign changes but the measurement gives always the absolute value.
in orange, the fit is not very good... possibly due to the sampling rate change.
the conclusion we can have is only this frequency drift action has a very long time constant ~ 2h
and could be used to compensate, as soon as the power is in the FPcavity, the frequency drift coming from this power.
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last friday, I locked the cavity and then, switched ON the heating cable after waiting the cavity reaches a steady state in frequency drift : see the figure.
blue : temperature of the probe on the heating cable
red : freqeuncy drift between FP-cavity (laser locked on it) and RF reference oscillator.
@ 10min : filling the FP-cavity with 50kW
@ 50min : "long" lock loss of about 1min => jumb in frequency => it is strange to see the cavity does not reach the same frequency steady state after the lock loss than before the lock loss.
(just before the small frequency jump, the frequency is increasing a bit because of the lock has been lost and the laser is drifting by itself in open loop. the jump, after that, corresponds to the moment where the laser is locked back to the FP-cavity)
@ 55min : switch ON the heating cable with 20V on the voltage supply => the probe stuck on the cable shows the temperature increases => and a bit later, one can see the frequency decreasing.
surprisingly, we don't reach a steady state ...
I suspect that filling the FP-cavity with power (without switching ON the heating cable) could first inscrease the frequency and later could decrease it if several parts of the mechanics are involved and if the thermal conduction is slow because of some isolation embbedded in the mechanics (for example ceramics balls).
it is possible to make the frequency drifting sensitivity test of the heating cable without locking the cavity at 50kW.
one can work in open loop, without power in the FP-cavity, and follow the frequency drift by keeping the main resonance at the same relative position to the laser PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, I started the heating cable after the warm-up of the FP-cavity :
14h20 : start to fill 50kW in the cavity
15h : start of the heating cable @10V (2x 5V) (iteration 2300)
15h16 : start of the heating cable @60V (2x 30V) (iteration 3400)
15h20 : start of the heating cable @20V (2x 10V) (iteration 3600)
the offset frequency, for 20V of voltage on the DC voltage supply, is 175Hz @500MHz (equivalent to 3.5µm)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today, I removed one of the DC voltage supply (as with 30V, we are already able to 30°C on the heating cable).
the remaining DC voltage supply is configured in series (2x30V = 60V max) and is at the IP address : 192.168.1.101
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Temperature control of the FP-cavity length, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today with Fatematuj, we did a long-term frequency drift measurement between the FP-cavity loaded with 50kW and the RF reference frequency... and without any other thermal source (no heating cable !)
we had a small lock loss at t ~ 120mn.
we see at the begining an exponential behavior of the FP-cavity reaching a thermal steady state until t ~ 40mn, and then we see the frequency slowly drifting in the reverted direction...
which is the evidence of the thermal source reaching a different mechanical part of the FP-cavity for which an increase of temperature induces a reverted change in frequency.
the very long delay between these 2 opposite behaviors could come from the ceramic balls on which the big mechanical mounts of the mirrors are placed.
we have to redo this measurement with a longer period to see if and when we are reaching a steady state !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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on last tuesday, I did a long-term measurement of the frequency drift when the heating cable is powered ON at 20V (2x 10V) @ t=0mn.
the freqeuncy drift (between the laser, locked in open loop on the FP-cavity, and the RF reference oscillator) acquisition was made by the National Instrument software.
the sampling rate of this acquisition is not set by the user but depends on several parameters of the acquisition... and then can be subject to change.
on can see on the data, in blue, a possible sampling rate change @ t~30mn.
@ t~100mn : the frequency sign changes but the measurement gives always the absolute value.
in orange, the fit is not very good... possibly due to the sampling rate change.
the conclusion we can have is only this frequency drift action has a very long time constant ~ 2h
and could be used to compensate, as soon as the power is in the FPcavity, the frequency drift coming from this power.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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last friday, I locked the cavity and then, switched ON the heating cable after waiting the cavity reaches a steady state in frequency drift : see the figure.
blue : temperature of the probe on the heating cable
red : freqeuncy drift between FP-cavity (laser locked on it) and RF reference oscillator.
@ 10min : filling the FP-cavity with 50kW
@ 50min : "long" lock loss of about 1min => jumb in frequency => it is strange to see the cavity does not reach the same frequency steady state after the lock loss than before the lock loss.
(just before the small frequency jump, the frequency is increasing a bit because of the lock has been lost and the laser is drifting by itself in open loop. the jump, after that, corresponds to the moment where the laser is locked back to the FP-cavity)
@ 55min : switch ON the heating cable with 20V on the voltage supply => the probe stuck on the cable shows the temperature increases => and a bit later, one can see the frequency decreasing.
surprisingly, we don't reach a steady state ...
I suspect that filling the FP-cavity with power (without switching ON the heating cable) could first inscrease the frequency and later could decrease it if several parts of the mechanics are involved and if the thermal conduction is slow because of some isolation embbedded in the mechanics (for example ceramics balls).
it is possible to make the frequency drifting sensitivity test of the heating cable without locking the cavity at 50kW.
one can work in open loop, without power in the FP-cavity, and follow the frequency drift by keeping the main resonance at the same relative position to the laser PZT.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this afternoon, I started the heating cable after the warm-up of the FP-cavity :
14h20 : start to fill 50kW in the cavity
15h : start of the heating cable @10V (2x 5V) (iteration 2300)
15h16 : start of the heating cable @60V (2x 30V) (iteration 3400)
15h20 : start of the heating cable @20V (2x 10V) (iteration 3600)
the offset frequency, for 20V of voltage on the DC voltage supply, is 175Hz @500MHz (equivalent to 3.5µm)
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today, I removed one of the DC voltage supply (as with 30V, we are already able to 30°C on the heating cable).
the remaining DC voltage supply is configured in series (2x30V = 60V max) and is at the IP address : 192.168.1.101
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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several days ago, we installed a heating cable around the output flange (close to the X-hutch) of the FP-cavity vessel.
we are able to heat this cable by applying a DC voltage coming from 2 DC voltage supplies in serie (2 devices with 2x 0-30V / 3A => 0-120V / 3A).
currently, we apply at maximum 7V DC on each channel => 28V DC on the cable. its temperature reach ~ 30°C after 1/2h or more.
this temperature increase on one vessel of the FP-cavity, changes very slowly the length of the FP-cavity.
see this post (red curve on fig. 2) for a typical temperature curve measured (exponential-like curve) on the heating cable itself : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/290
the length change rate of the FP-cavity, due to this heating, is difficult to estimate because it depends on the part of this exponential curve you make the measurement.
but globally the drift is about 50nm every 5 minutes, which is roughly equivalent to 10 steps of the FP-cavity motor every 5 minutes.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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as the CFP motors displacements induce a cavity unlock, we try to change the cavity length by changing the temperature of elment of the cavity.
yesterday, we tried to put a "heating cable" borrowed to the vacuum group to change the temperature of one bellows between the FP-cavity and the electron ring.
we chose a below because it is flexible and should not apply a too strong force on the cavity vessels.
we heated the cable at ~30°C but we didn't see a clear effect on the FP-cavity frequency measurement.
then, we put a heating cable around the X-ray output flange of the FP-cavity vessel and we saw a clear effect : a relatively fast (at a "second" level) frequency change.
the problem is the heating system is not remotely driven.
the cable is R=55ohms impedance and can reach 450°C for 1kW dissipated.
so today, we will try to use 2 remotely controlled Siglent SPD3303X power supplies.
they can reach V=120V DC => P=V²/R=260W => we could reach more than 100°C
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts. |
Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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this morning : still 6.2 mW at the output of the fiber.
the powermeter has been removed and the fiber connected to amplifier input fiber (no EOM connected in between).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Monday 7/11 morning, the power in the fiber was still 6.2 mW
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning : still 6.2 mW at the output of the fiber.
the powermeter has been removed and the fiber connected to amplifier input fiber (no EOM connected in between).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today, the power measured at the input of the amplifier (PD_IN on the LAL amplifier software) is 2.5mW instead of >3mW generally measured
The power coming from the NKT/Onefive Origami oscillator is still >37mW (measured directly with the powermeter at the laser output without OD2).
thus, the problem should come from:
- the strecher/fiber alignment.
- or maybe from a wavelength shift of the oscillator
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Monday 7/11 morning, the power in the fiber was still 6.2 mW
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning : still 6.2 mW at the output of the fiber.
the powermeter has been removed and the fiber connected to amplifier input fiber (no EOM connected in between).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, the Alphanov amplifier stopped because of the too low injected power : ~2.5mW (measured by the Alphanov software)
it was still working at ~2.7mW.
normally, the injected power is ~3.1mW (equivalent to 6.2mW measured directly at the fiber output).
I checked the power coming from the OneFive oscillator : it is still 36mW, identical to the power measured the first day we installed it.
by moving the "focus" knob of the mount, we saw this 3.1mW back but it was impossible to get it in a stable way.
so we think the "strecher box alignment" is still good and we decided to realign the Schafter-Kirchhoff fiber mount.
up to now, we lost all the coupling in the mount, then we improved the power at the fiber output to 4.2mW, then we lost everything again.
we will continue this afternoon.
this afternoon, I was able to go back to 5.4mW in the fiber output (3.2-3.3mW in the Alphanov software).
IN CASE OF SMALL LOSS OF POWER IN THE FIBER : DON'T TOUCH THE SCHAFTER-KIRCHHOFF MOUNT
it is too sensitive... open the Strecher box and do the alignment improvement with the 2 final (alignment) mirrors in the box.
even if it is mandatory to adjust the Schafter-Kirchhoff mount, you will have to finish the alignment with the 2 final (alignment) mirrors of the Strecher box.
Now, all the Schafter-Kirchhoff mount screws are well tighten !
So next time, use the Strecher box final mirrors to improve the injection into the fiber.
after the new fiber alignment, I was able to lock "as usual" the cavity to 47kW @30% of laser amplifier ratio.
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Today, the power measured at the input of the amplifier (PD_IN on the LAL amplifier software) is 2.5mW instead of >3mW generally measured
The power coming from the NKT/Onefive Origami oscillator is still >37mW (measured directly with the powermeter at the laser output without OD2).
thus, the problem should come from:
- the strecher/fiber alignment.
- or maybe from a wavelength shift of the oscillator
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Monday 7/11 morning, the power in the fiber was still 6.2 mW
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this morning : still 6.2 mW at the output of the fiber.
the powermeter has been removed and the fiber connected to amplifier input fiber (no EOM connected in between).
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This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
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Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
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I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
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This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Strecher and fiber injection alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Ronic, using a pickup mirror, we measured the power in different locations along the path of the stretcher box
Output power from oscillator : ~35mW
After the isolator : ~ 35 mW
just before the CVBG : ~ 35 mW
just before the fiber injection : 3 mW
After improving on the mirrors directly correlated to the first line in CVBG and the second reflection line (mirror 4 and 6 on the Alphanov documentation)
we managed to increase the power output just before the fiber to 5.7 mW
To confirm it is indeed the second reflection we see, when cutting the second line and the power drops to almost sero (~70 uW)
We will check the CVBG documentation if it is the maximum power we can obtain after the it due to it's bandwidth !!!!
for the fiber injection :
First without connecting the fiber we checked power after Schafter+Kirchhoff mount we measure 5.5 mW (all power pass through)
when connecting the fiber, we get 300 uW after a quick alignment on the power meter + OD2.
The issue of being too much sensitive arises from the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount, after adjusting the tilt screws and Black knob we got 1.05mW in the fiber for a quick moment.
we had at one point a stable 811 uW into the fiber, but when fixing the mount screws the power drops significantly to 150 uW and it is very difficult to reproduce.
The Schafter+Kirchhoff mount is very difficult to align, waiting on advice from Guillaume Machinet.
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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New mirrors batch informations, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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the 2 files describe the specfications for the16 mirrors ordered (4 for ThomX + spare, 4 for SBOX + spare) and the measurements made by the LMA. |
FP-cavity inside power sensitivity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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this morning I monitored the frequency shift between the FP-cavity frequency (the laser is locked on it) and the RF reference frequency @ 500MHz,
during the warm-up time, for 50kW stored in the cavity (the recording started ~ 9h20).
one observes on fig.1 a simple exponential behavior with 500Hz frequency shift @500MHz (equivalent to ~ 10µm) for 50kW stored.
the time constant T of the exponential curve is 12.5 minutes and the stable region starts at 5T ~ 1h.
the small drop at the end of the curve ( ~ @10h30) could come from the external temperature which started to drift before (see fig.2)
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Long term lock of Laser-FP cavity-RF reference, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today for the first time, we were able to make a long term lock of all the elements (Laser on FP cavity and FP-cavity on RF reference) during 20 minutes @50kW without any single loss of lock.
the success of this long term lock was coming from the possibility to drive the Smaract motor in piezo-scan mode and to apply a heating on one vessel of the FP-cavity to let its frequency slowly drift always in the same direction.
then, the FP-cavity motor can follow this drift without any loss of the lock.
even when we lost the lock, it was quite easy to get it back because of the frequency drift, always in the same direction due to the FP-cavity heating with the heating cable.
a good strategy to make this double lock :
1) adjust the laser frequency to the RF reference frequency in using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode until reaching a beating < 10Hz.
2) search for FP-cavity resonance in using the ISP motor of the FP-cavity
3) once the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, the FP-cavity length changes => work on the FP-cavity motor to follow the drift until one reachs a thermal equilibrium.
4) once the thermal equilibrium is reached, one can switch on the heating of the heating cable to continue the slow "thermal" drift in the same direction 5V of total voltage should be enough for 1h of work.
5) in the same time, one need to cancel the frequency offset between the RF reference and the FP-cavity using the FP-cavity motor and one need to follow the laser cavity fluctuations using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode.
6) once the FP-cavity is at the same length than the RF-reference, one can close the second loop (when both PZT are in the middle of their range).
7) at that point, one need to swap the Smaract motor control to "piezo scan" mode => one follows only the laser fluctuations ~ 1µm peak-peak
8) one always follows the FP-cavity drift using the IcePap controller on the FP-cavity motor, 10 steps by 10 steps => it should work during 1h.
9) when one reachs the thermal equilibrium again, one can add 5V to the heating cable voltage.
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Long term lock of Laser-FP cavity-RF reference, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, I did a 20 minutes "double lock" run w/o any single lock loss.
the attached file shows the recorded RMS beating voltage between 500MHz signals (laser harmonic and RF reference).
the end of the plot after iteration ~1.8k shows the lock loss to the RF reference.
when the lock is not working, one gets a sine signal V=V0*sin(phi(t)) with V0=288mV => Vrms = 288/sqrt(2)) = 204mV rms
(this signal is not on the figure)
for low phase values : V=V0*dphi
when the locking is good, this voltage is about V = 3.5mV rms => dphi = 12mrad rms
a full beating signal period (500MHz => 2ns) corresponds to 2pi, so dphi = 12mrad rms => jitter dt = 4ps rms
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today for the first time, we were able to make a long term lock of all the elements (Laser on FP cavity and FP-cavity on RF reference) during 20 minutes @50kW without any single loss of lock.
the success of this long term lock was coming from the possibility to drive the Smaract motor in piezo-scan mode and to apply a heating on one vessel of the FP-cavity to let its frequency slowly drift always in the same direction.
then, the FP-cavity motor can follow this drift without any loss of the lock.
even when we lost the lock, it was quite easy to get it back because of the frequency drift, always in the same direction due to the FP-cavity heating with the heating cable.
a good strategy to make this double lock :
1) adjust the laser frequency to the RF reference frequency in using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode until reaching a beating < 10Hz.
2) search for FP-cavity resonance in using the ISP motor of the FP-cavity
3) once the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, the FP-cavity length changes => work on the FP-cavity motor to follow the drift until one reachs a thermal equilibrium.
4) once the thermal equilibrium is reached, one can switch on the heating of the heating cable to continue the slow "thermal" drift in the same direction 5V of total voltage should be enough for 1h of work.
5) in the same time, one need to cancel the frequency offset between the RF reference and the FP-cavity using the FP-cavity motor and one need to follow the laser cavity fluctuations using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode.
6) once the FP-cavity is at the same length than the RF-reference, one can close the second loop (when both PZT are in the middle of their range).
7) at that point, one need to swap the Smaract motor control to "piezo scan" mode => one follows only the laser fluctuations ~ 1µm peak-peak
8) one always follows the FP-cavity drift using the IcePap controller on the FP-cavity motor, 10 steps by 10 steps => it should work during 1h.
9) when one reachs the thermal equilibrium again, one can add 5V to the heating cable voltage.
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Long term lock of Laser-FP cavity-RF reference, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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this afternoon, we did a new long-term "double lock" run w/o any single lock loss during 1/2h.
we did 2 acquisitions :
fig 1 : phase measurement between the 33MHz signal coming from the laser and the 500MHz RF.
this plot doesn't last 1/2h.
the measured jitter is ~45ps, at the limit of the scope resolution.
fig 2 : same phase measurement between the two 500MHz signals (laser and RF)
the lock is lost at the end of the plot.
the measured voltage noise is Vrms ~ 2.5mV rms => jitter ~ 2.8ps rms
the conversion factor between jitter and voltage is 1,1 ps / mV
!!! CAREFUL !!! heating the FP-cavity with the heating cable works in the opposite direction of the heating due to power in the cavity !
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today, I did a 20 minutes "double lock" run w/o any single lock loss.
the attached file shows the recorded RMS beating voltage between 500MHz signals (laser harmonic and RF reference).
the end of the plot after iteration ~1.8k shows the lock loss to the RF reference.
when the lock is not working, one gets a sine signal V=V0*sin(phi(t)) with V0=288mV => Vrms = 288/sqrt(2)) = 204mV rms
(this signal is not on the figure)
for low phase values : V=V0*dphi
when the locking is good, this voltage is about V = 3.5mV rms => dphi = 12mrad rms
a full beating signal period (500MHz => 2ns) corresponds to 2pi, so dphi = 12mrad rms => jitter dt = 4ps rms
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today for the first time, we were able to make a long term lock of all the elements (Laser on FP cavity and FP-cavity on RF reference) during 20 minutes @50kW without any single loss of lock.
the success of this long term lock was coming from the possibility to drive the Smaract motor in piezo-scan mode and to apply a heating on one vessel of the FP-cavity to let its frequency slowly drift always in the same direction.
then, the FP-cavity motor can follow this drift without any loss of the lock.
even when we lost the lock, it was quite easy to get it back because of the frequency drift, always in the same direction due to the FP-cavity heating with the heating cable.
a good strategy to make this double lock :
1) adjust the laser frequency to the RF reference frequency in using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode until reaching a beating < 10Hz.
2) search for FP-cavity resonance in using the ISP motor of the FP-cavity
3) once the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, the FP-cavity length changes => work on the FP-cavity motor to follow the drift until one reachs a thermal equilibrium.
4) once the thermal equilibrium is reached, one can switch on the heating of the heating cable to continue the slow "thermal" drift in the same direction 5V of total voltage should be enough for 1h of work.
5) in the same time, one need to cancel the frequency offset between the RF reference and the FP-cavity using the FP-cavity motor and one need to follow the laser cavity fluctuations using the Smaract motor in "closed loop" mode.
6) once the FP-cavity is at the same length than the RF-reference, one can close the second loop (when both PZT are in the middle of their range).
7) at that point, one need to swap the Smaract motor control to "piezo scan" mode => one follows only the laser fluctuations ~ 1µm peak-peak
8) one always follows the FP-cavity drift using the IcePap controller on the FP-cavity motor, 10 steps by 10 steps => it should work during 1h.
9) when one reachs the thermal equilibrium again, one can add 5V to the heating cable voltage.
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Smaract motors parameters and controller, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | detectors and electronics
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current Smaract motors parameters :
- Closed loop Max frequency : 5000
- Signal Amplitude threshold : 2047
- High voltage threshold : 511
when one drives the Smaract motors in "closed loop" mode, one can get a displacement as small as 50nm... but at the price of a delock of the laser/FP-cavity.
when one drives the motor in "open loop" mode, 1 step is equivalent to 4µm !!! it is much larger than the laser PZT range.
when one drives the motor in "Piezo Scan" mode with a speed of 1V/s, one can move the motor without losing the laser/Fp-cavity lock.
the PZT voltage range of 100V (max value) is roughly equivalent to 2-3µm of round trip length, which is enough to manage several "fast" (10-20 minutes) oscillations of the laser frequency :
see these posts to get some info on the laser frequency oscillations : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/289
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Temperature control of the Laser length with the inside Peltier, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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bunker temperature @ 22.5°C
today, Sebastien Pitrel improved its python software to manually control the laser peltier.
we were able to make to some test. unfortunately, doing only one step change the 500MHz relative frequency by ~400Hz (see the attached plot from 480Hz to 100Hz which is the laser harmonic @500MHz compared to the RF reference @500MHz), which is equivalent to a round trip length variation of 8µm !!!
the present PZT's ranges are equivalent to 400nm of the round trip length. the laser PZT range could be extended by a factor 10 if one drives it using 100V instead of 10V actually, but it would not be enough to be able to use the Peltier ! :-(
if the Peltier changes the inox baseplate of the laser, the relative length change is 1e-5 /K which is equivalent to 100µm/K of the round trip length.
it means the internal temperature steps, done by the peltier, are around 0.08K.
maybe we could try to have smaller steps by using an external thermal setup ?
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Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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temperature since we moved to temperature probe (jump at the beginning of the plot) below the ring on a metallic base.
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as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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temperature @ 22.3°C
today, all the PC applications were closed except the web browser.
I had to restart all of them, then try to relock.
(maybe I let the terminal window open with all the apps and someone tried to unlog by removing them ?)
the cavity height was pretty misaligned.
after a rough alignment, the power inside the cavity was back at 49kW for 30% amplifier ratio.
the CEP motor needs to be adjusted a lot during the cavity heating process
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temperature since we moved to temperature probe (jump at the beginning of the plot) below the ring on a metallic base.
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as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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temperature @ 21.9°C
48.5kW inside CFP for 30% amplifier ratio
Frep Laser motor = 123.4µm
CEP motor = -67.8µm
below the image of the relative voltage range between CFP PZT (pink) and laser PZT (green).
the CFP PZT is driven by 10x the voltage range showed by the scope (0-100V HV output and 0-10V monitor on the Laselock)
one can see on the scope that the relative range of both PZT voltage range is roughly the same which means that the real CFP PZT sensitivity is 10x smaller than the Laser PZT sensitivity.
as the CFP PZT is driven by 0-100V and the Laser PZT is driven by 0-10V voltages, they have approximately the same range which is ~200nm (calibrated with the Laser motor in closed loop mode).
in a previous email, the CFP PZT should be given with a sensitivty of about 4nm/V => 400nm/100V of length range => 800nm/100V of CFP roundtrip range => 80e-9/100V of relative sensitivity => 40Hz of frequency peak-peak range for 500MHz carrier frequency.
there is a discrepancy between measurements (~10Hz peak-peak range for 500MHz carrier) and expected value !
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temperature @ 22.3°C
today, all the PC applications were closed except the web browser.
I had to restart all of them, then try to relock.
(maybe I let the terminal window open with all the apps and someone tried to unlog by removing them ?)
the cavity height was pretty misaligned.
after a rough alignment, the power inside the cavity was back at 49kW for 30% amplifier ratio.
the CEP motor needs to be adjusted a lot during the cavity heating process
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temperature since we moved to temperature probe (jump at the beginning of the plot) below the ring on a metallic base.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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bunker temperature curve, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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M4 motor using icepap controller and jive/Atkpanel IHM, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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Kevin moved the M4 mirror controller from the ISP controller to some ICEPAP controller.
the IHM to access this ICEPAP controller is accessible by launching 'jive' from any account ('operateur.thomx' for example).
once in the jive window, one has to select the 'device' tab, then select the OC=>OP=>OCH.02-MOT.03 device.
an AtkPanel is launched in which one can change the step values which are direclty the motor steps. |
M4 motor using icepap controller and jive/Atkpanel IHM, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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one problem is the FP-cavity/laser lock loss when one moves a FP-cavity motor.
with acceleration = 0.01 units/s² and velocity = 50mm/s (here, the 'mm' unit seems strange as it is very fast), it's enough to make a move fast enough for small displacements (10 steps for example to center PZT position) and it seems that the cavity stays locked (only the FP-cavity/laser is locked).
=> to be checked when both FP-cavity/laser and FP-cavity/RF-reference feedback loops are running.
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Kevin moved the M4 mirror controller from the ISP controller to some ICEPAP controller.
the IHM to access this ICEPAP controller is accessible by launching 'jive' from any account ('operateur.thomx' for example).
once in the jive window, one has to select the 'device' tab, then select the OC=>OP=>OCH.02-MOT.03 device.
an AtkPanel is launched in which one can change the step values which are direclty the motor steps.
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Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode) |
Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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temperature stable around 20.8°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +158.4µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
it is very difficult to maintain both loops in the same time as soon as it is needed to move one motor (CFP or Laser) because of the one element (RF reference or Laser or CFP) is drifting in frequency.
to try to understand why these 3 elements seems to drift so fast one from each other, we only measure the beating frequency between the RF reference and the free running laser (without lock of the CFP)... and we see a drift around several Hz by second of the beating signal => who is guilty ? Laser or RF synthesizer ?
one can compare their respective phase noise to have an idea of their relative phase/frequency stability :
the OneFive phase noise gives +40dBc/Hz @10Hz offset in optical frequency which is 300000 (110dB) more than at 1GHz => 40 - 110 = -70dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
to be compared to the SMA100A which gives -85dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
conclusion : the RF reference should be more stable in long term and the drifts we see should come from the laser...
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today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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temperature stable around 21.7°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +147µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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temperature stable around 20.8°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +158.4µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
it is very difficult to maintain both loops in the same time as soon as it is needed to move one motor (CFP or Laser) because of the one element (RF reference or Laser or CFP) is drifting in frequency.
to try to understand why these 3 elements seems to drift so fast one from each other, we only measure the beating frequency between the RF reference and the free running laser (without lock of the CFP)... and we see a drift around several Hz by second of the beating signal => who is guilty ? Laser or RF synthesizer ?
one can compare their respective phase noise to have an idea of their relative phase/frequency stability :
the OneFive phase noise gives +40dBc/Hz @10Hz offset in optical frequency which is 300000 (110dB) more than at 1GHz => 40 - 110 = -70dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
to be compared to the SMA100A which gives -85dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
conclusion : the RF reference should be more stable in long term and the drifts we see should come from the laser...
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today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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some changes in the feedback scheme, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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from several weeks, the maximum power stored in the FP-cavity was ~ 5kW.
today with Daniele, we finished to investigate the problem, and now the power inside the FP-cavity is back to ~50kW for 30% of laser amplifier ratio (~16W).
we optimized the signal received by the PDH photodiode by installing a large DET100 to collect more light.
if one installs a small photodiode (DET10) in the middle of the beam, the carrier signal when a FP-cavity crosses a resonance is larger because the photodiode "sees" only the part of the beam which is geometrically coupled to the cavity in its small active area, but :
1- once we will improve the geometrical coupling, the part of the incoming beam coupled to the FP-cavity will increase.
2- one need to work with a diffuser in front of this photodiode to precisely adapt the feedback loops gain : in that case the photodiode is sensitive to the whole input beam, whatever his active area size.
so, we decide to put a DET100 (which is given for 35ns rise time / 10MHz BW when connected on 50ohms).
see the scheme in attached file.
and a picture of the desktop with all the lock parameters :
the quality of the lock, seen on the reflected power signal is very good !
and the stability is only limited by the necessity to act on the laser Smaract motors to let the PZT in its working range.
dark blue : transmitted signal
green : PZT
pink : error signal
light blue : reflected signal
conclusion : it is not clear that the cavity Finesse have significantly increased during the last weeks, as we are roughly at the same level than before (47kW).
but as we precisely adapted the signal levels in the feedback scheme (PDH S/N ratio and Laselock parameters), the result is a more stable lock.
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!!! strange amplifier beam pointing fluctuations !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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this morning, I locked the cavity to ~25kW without any problem.
but this afternoon, the reflected power exhibited low frequency (~1Hz) fluctuations of about 10% without any lock.
the reflected PhD is a DET10 which has a small surface.
we checked the OneFive oscillator power which is perfectly stable.
we changed the DET10 PhD for a DET100 PhD with ~1cm surface : we don't see any power fluctuation => the amplifier power seems stable.
we put back the DET10 PhD : we see these fluctuations of about 10% => it could be some pointing effect !!!
when one locks the FP-cavity, we clearly see exactly the same power fluctuations at the Transmission PhD but complementary => the sum is constant.
so, it seems clear that the beam coupling to the cavity is fluctuating due to some pointing fluctuation of the incoming beam.
a reason of these fluctuations could be the thermal jump done today because of the air cooling system of the bunker :
the temperature jumped from 25°C yesterday (and maybe still this morning ?) to 18°C this afternoon !!!
thus, some mechanical parts (the compressor CVBG ?) could be moving and then could produce these pointing fluctuations... |
!!! strange amplifier beam pointing fluctuations !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics
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we confirmed the effect of the bunker temperature on the laser amplifier "beam pointing" fluctuations.
once the temperature is getting back to stable values, it doesn't happend again.
we bought a temperature data logguer to monitor them in the future: https://www.picotech.com/data-logger/tc-08/thermocouple-data-logger
this post close this thread.
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this morning, I locked the cavity to ~25kW without any problem.
but this afternoon, the reflected power exhibited low frequency (~1Hz) fluctuations of about 10% without any lock.
the reflected PhD is a DET10 which has a small surface.
we checked the OneFive oscillator power which is perfectly stable.
we changed the DET10 PhD for a DET100 PhD with ~1cm surface : we don't see any power fluctuation => the amplifier power seems stable.
we put back the DET10 PhD : we see these fluctuations of about 10% => it could be some pointing effect !!!
when one locks the FP-cavity, we clearly see exactly the same power fluctuations at the Transmission PhD but complementary => the sum is constant.
so, it seems clear that the beam coupling to the cavity is fluctuating due to some pointing fluctuation of the incoming beam.
a reason of these fluctuations could be the thermal jump done today because of the air cooling system of the bunker :
the temperature jumped from 25°C yesterday (and maybe still this morning ?) to 18°C this afternoon !!!
thus, some mechanical parts (the compressor CVBG ?) could be moving and then could produce these pointing fluctuations...
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Tests of pointing stability of the laser CFP, posted by Daniele Nutarelli at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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Last monday with Victor we have cheked the stability of de pointing of the laser FP.
The climatisation was operating since 3 days in satble way. The laser pointing was very stable before to inejct in to the cavity (picture 1) and also for the reflexion from the cavity (picture 2).
That means thant it is necessary to have a stable climatisation operation. |
Laser FP operation, posted by Daniele Nutarelli at Optical room about lasers and optics
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This morning FP Laser was operating well locked at 30 KWatts in stable vay.
There are some fluctuations due tu pointing instabilities probably dues to temperature fluctuations in de bunker.
In the attacced picture are reported the lock parameters and signals.
By adjusting the position of laser caviti length the lock old all de morning. |
Fast feedback loop between laser and FP cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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today, we tried to lock the FP cavity with the Smaract motors ON (with option -LV).
we know the Smaract controllers produce some noise and the lock is very bad or impossible when the controller in ON (whatever the displacement mode is : closed or open loop, or piezo scan).
then we need to do a fast feedback loop on the EOM inside of the Onefive laser.
the problem is we cannot fill directly the error signal (~ 300mVpp) as the signal level is too low to produce some effect.
1- we tried to use the AC-coupled homemade amplifier alone but the output range is too low (+/- 3V)
2- we tried to use the M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling but the output range is still to low (+/-30V ? => to be confirmed)
but we saw an improvement in the locking.
3- we tried to combine AC-coupled homemade amplifier + M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling.
we are able to lock (~ 30% coupling) but the lock quality is very poor : we clearly see that we oscillate around the maximum of the Airy peak.
we tried several combination of the global gain (fast feedback + Laselock) using the diffuser, of the Laselock PID parameters but it seems we are not able to lock properly.
we measured a global delay of this double amplification stage of 80-90ns for the homemade amplifier and 150ns for the homemade+M250 amplifiers.
this delay is compatible with ~ 500kHz BW for the feedback => it seems it is not the reason...
we measured also the linearity of the homemade amp => there is ~ 30dB between a frequency and its 1st harmonic even at low signal...
the amp scheme is not very linear.
in comparison, the HV M250 amplifier exhibit > 80 dB of linearity !
we will try to remplace the homemade amp by a commercial FEMTO amplifier to imrpove the linearity and see if it improves also the lock.
we measured also a 100Hz AM modulation on the output signal of the homemade amp+M250.
=> we can try to work in differential (HV+ - HV-) to see if it helps to remove this modulation. |
Fast feedback loop between laser and FP cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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today, after the several unsuccessful attempt yesterday to get an improvement in the lock,
we decided to "rebuild" the error signal electronics block by block and step by step :
the scheme is basically :
- DET36 photodiode
- followed by a 10MHz low pass filter to remove the laser frequency harmonics and keep only the modulation frequency at 8.4MHz.
- connected to a FEMTO HPVA AC-coupled 40dB gain amplifier with 50ohms in parallel on its input (which is connected to the photodiode).
- connected to a Minicircuit mixer which is also demodulated by the generator at 8.4MHz
- followed by a 1.9MHz low pass filter to remove image frequencies
when this signal is sent to the Laselock box, the lock of the cavity is possible but very noisy.
we need to put a large D values in the PID to maintain the lock at the price of oscillations and gain loss ! :-(
when this signal is connected also to the M250 video EOM amplifier (which is 50 ohms), but this amplifier is not used,
we suddenly got a much better lock (see the attached pictures), certainly due to the 50 ohms connected to the input of the Laselock system => to be verified.
one could have some noise current at the Laselock input which produces less noise at the output when the input impedance is 50 ohms, instead of the several kohms when the input is unloaded...
then, we were able to get a stable lock at ~40kW with 30% coupling and 30% of amplifier :
see this post with the same values : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/227
but now, the lock has been done WITH ALL the motors controllers ON !!! :-)))
now, we can try to improve the lock with the fast feedback loop.
and the only real problem is the mode degeneracy we need to block with the L-shape.
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today, we tried to lock the FP cavity with the Smaract motors ON (with option -LV).
we know the Smaract controllers produce some noise and the lock is very bad or impossible when the controller in ON (whatever the displacement mode is : closed or open loop, or piezo scan).
then we need to do a fast feedback loop on the EOM inside of the Onefive laser.
the problem is we cannot fill directly the error signal (~ 300mVpp) as the signal level is too low to produce some effect.
1- we tried to use the AC-coupled homemade amplifier alone but the output range is too low (+/- 3V)
2- we tried to use the M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling but the output range is still to low (+/-30V ? => to be confirmed)
but we saw an improvement in the locking.
3- we tried to combine AC-coupled homemade amplifier + M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling.
we are able to lock (~ 30% coupling) but the lock quality is very poor : we clearly see that we oscillate around the maximum of the Airy peak.
we tried several combination of the global gain (fast feedback + Laselock) using the diffuser, of the Laselock PID parameters but it seems we are not able to lock properly.
we measured a global delay of this double amplification stage of 80-90ns for the homemade amplifier and 150ns for the homemade+M250 amplifiers.
this delay is compatible with ~ 500kHz BW for the feedback => it seems it is not the reason...
we measured also the linearity of the homemade amp => there is ~ 30dB between a frequency and its 1st harmonic even at low signal...
the amp scheme is not very linear.
in comparison, the HV M250 amplifier exhibit > 80 dB of linearity !
we will try to remplace the homemade amp by a commercial FEMTO amplifier to imrpove the linearity and see if it improves also the lock.
we measured also a 100Hz AM modulation on the output signal of the homemade amp+M250.
=> we can try to work in differential (HV+ - HV-) to see if it helps to remove this modulation.
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Fast feedback loop between laser and FP cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, we tried to better understand how to drive properly the EOM to kill high frequency noise.
we locked to laser on the FP-cavity as usual.
then we injected a 0-10V square signal on the laser EOM @ 1KHz (with fast rise and fall times ~ 10ns)
we clearly see a small drop on the cavity transmitted power, but much like a sine wave in phase with square signal, because of the small bandwidth of the cavity ~ 1kHz.
then it is difficult to deduce a time response of the system when one injects a signal on the EOM.
because of compensated noise on the PZT signal, one does not see any variation on this signal
because of the bandwidth of the feedback (~10kHz => 100µs period), the possibly visible effect of the square input signal on EOM is compensated quickly,
in addition, the effect with 0-10V input signal is small and superposed with other noise sources => one does not see a clear correlation.
we planned to work with 0-100V input signal but we add a strange issue at this moment BEFORE increasing the voltage on the EOM
=> see next post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/261
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today, after the several unsuccessful attempt yesterday to get an improvement in the lock,
we decided to "rebuild" the error signal electronics block by block and step by step :
the scheme is basically :
- DET36 photodiode
- followed by a 10MHz low pass filter to remove the laser frequency harmonics and keep only the modulation frequency at 8.4MHz.
- connected to a FEMTO HPVA AC-coupled 40dB gain amplifier with 50ohms in parallel on its input (which is connected to the photodiode).
- connected to a Minicircuit mixer which is also demodulated by the generator at 8.4MHz
- followed by a 1.9MHz low pass filter to remove image frequencies
when this signal is sent to the Laselock box, the lock of the cavity is possible but very noisy.
we need to put a large D values in the PID to maintain the lock at the price of oscillations and gain loss ! :-(
when this signal is connected also to the M250 video EOM amplifier (which is 50 ohms), but this amplifier is not used,
we suddenly got a much better lock (see the attached pictures), certainly due to the 50 ohms connected to the input of the Laselock system => to be verified.
one could have some noise current at the Laselock input which produces less noise at the output when the input impedance is 50 ohms, instead of the several kohms when the input is unloaded...
then, we were able to get a stable lock at ~40kW with 30% coupling and 30% of amplifier :
see this post with the same values : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/227
but now, the lock has been done WITH ALL the motors controllers ON !!! :-)))
now, we can try to improve the lock with the fast feedback loop.
and the only real problem is the mode degeneracy we need to block with the L-shape.
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today, we tried to lock the FP cavity with the Smaract motors ON (with option -LV).
we know the Smaract controllers produce some noise and the lock is very bad or impossible when the controller in ON (whatever the displacement mode is : closed or open loop, or piezo scan).
then we need to do a fast feedback loop on the EOM inside of the Onefive laser.
the problem is we cannot fill directly the error signal (~ 300mVpp) as the signal level is too low to produce some effect.
1- we tried to use the AC-coupled homemade amplifier alone but the output range is too low (+/- 3V)
2- we tried to use the M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling but the output range is still to low (+/-30V ? => to be confirmed)
but we saw an improvement in the locking.
3- we tried to combine AC-coupled homemade amplifier + M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling.
we are able to lock (~ 30% coupling) but the lock quality is very poor : we clearly see that we oscillate around the maximum of the Airy peak.
we tried several combination of the global gain (fast feedback + Laselock) using the diffuser, of the Laselock PID parameters but it seems we are not able to lock properly.
we measured a global delay of this double amplification stage of 80-90ns for the homemade amplifier and 150ns for the homemade+M250 amplifiers.
this delay is compatible with ~ 500kHz BW for the feedback => it seems it is not the reason...
we measured also the linearity of the homemade amp => there is ~ 30dB between a frequency and its 1st harmonic even at low signal...
the amp scheme is not very linear.
in comparison, the HV M250 amplifier exhibit > 80 dB of linearity !
we will try to remplace the homemade amp by a commercial FEMTO amplifier to imrpove the linearity and see if it improves also the lock.
we measured also a 100Hz AM modulation on the output signal of the homemade amp+M250.
=> we can try to work in differential (HV+ - HV-) to see if it helps to remove this modulation.
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Fast feedback loop between laser and FP cavity, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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I copy the post about Fast Feedback loop : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/265
This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
Conclusion : now, this Fast feedback loop is mandatory to lock the cavity at high Finesse or high Gain (G > 10k)
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this afternoon, we tried to better understand how to drive properly the EOM to kill high frequency noise.
we locked to laser on the FP-cavity as usual.
then we injected a 0-10V square signal on the laser EOM @ 1KHz (with fast rise and fall times ~ 10ns)
we clearly see a small drop on the cavity transmitted power, but much like a sine wave in phase with square signal, because of the small bandwidth of the cavity ~ 1kHz.
then it is difficult to deduce a time response of the system when one injects a signal on the EOM.
because of compensated noise on the PZT signal, one does not see any variation on this signal
because of the bandwidth of the feedback (~10kHz => 100µs period), the possibly visible effect of the square input signal on EOM is compensated quickly,
in addition, the effect with 0-10V input signal is small and superposed with other noise sources => one does not see a clear correlation.
we planned to work with 0-100V input signal but we add a strange issue at this moment BEFORE increasing the voltage on the EOM
=> see next post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/261
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today, after the several unsuccessful attempt yesterday to get an improvement in the lock,
we decided to "rebuild" the error signal electronics block by block and step by step :
the scheme is basically :
- DET36 photodiode
- followed by a 10MHz low pass filter to remove the laser frequency harmonics and keep only the modulation frequency at 8.4MHz.
- connected to a FEMTO HPVA AC-coupled 40dB gain amplifier with 50ohms in parallel on its input (which is connected to the photodiode).
- connected to a Minicircuit mixer which is also demodulated by the generator at 8.4MHz
- followed by a 1.9MHz low pass filter to remove image frequencies
when this signal is sent to the Laselock box, the lock of the cavity is possible but very noisy.
we need to put a large D values in the PID to maintain the lock at the price of oscillations and gain loss ! :-(
when this signal is connected also to the M250 video EOM amplifier (which is 50 ohms), but this amplifier is not used,
we suddenly got a much better lock (see the attached pictures), certainly due to the 50 ohms connected to the input of the Laselock system => to be verified.
one could have some noise current at the Laselock input which produces less noise at the output when the input impedance is 50 ohms, instead of the several kohms when the input is unloaded...
then, we were able to get a stable lock at ~40kW with 30% coupling and 30% of amplifier :
see this post with the same values : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/227
but now, the lock has been done WITH ALL the motors controllers ON !!! :-)))
now, we can try to improve the lock with the fast feedback loop.
and the only real problem is the mode degeneracy we need to block with the L-shape.
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today, we tried to lock the FP cavity with the Smaract motors ON (with option -LV).
we know the Smaract controllers produce some noise and the lock is very bad or impossible when the controller in ON (whatever the displacement mode is : closed or open loop, or piezo scan).
then we need to do a fast feedback loop on the EOM inside of the Onefive laser.
the problem is we cannot fill directly the error signal (~ 300mVpp) as the signal level is too low to produce some effect.
1- we tried to use the AC-coupled homemade amplifier alone but the output range is too low (+/- 3V)
2- we tried to use the M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling but the output range is still to low (+/-30V ? => to be confirmed)
but we saw an improvement in the locking.
3- we tried to combine AC-coupled homemade amplifier + M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling.
we are able to lock (~ 30% coupling) but the lock quality is very poor : we clearly see that we oscillate around the maximum of the Airy peak.
we tried several combination of the global gain (fast feedback + Laselock) using the diffuser, of the Laselock PID parameters but it seems we are not able to lock properly.
we measured a global delay of this double amplification stage of 80-90ns for the homemade amplifier and 150ns for the homemade+M250 amplifiers.
this delay is compatible with ~ 500kHz BW for the feedback => it seems it is not the reason...
we measured also the linearity of the homemade amp => there is ~ 30dB between a frequency and its 1st harmonic even at low signal...
the amp scheme is not very linear.
in comparison, the HV M250 amplifier exhibit > 80 dB of linearity !
we will try to remplace the homemade amp by a commercial FEMTO amplifier to imrpove the linearity and see if it improves also the lock.
we measured also a 100Hz AM modulation on the output signal of the homemade amp+M250.
=> we can try to work in differential (HV+ - HV-) to see if it helps to remove this modulation.
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!!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm.... |
!!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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!!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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!!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
in attachement, the Laselock parameters and a picture of a lock.
yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
blue : FP-cavity reflection signal
green: PZT signal
pink: PDH error signal
One has to move again the L-shape arm to remove the HOM
and check if we are able to lock in the same time the FP-cavity on the 500.25MHz reference oscillator... to be done this afternoon.
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it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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!!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!!, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this afternoon, in adjusting the CEP and improving the parameters of the lock, I was able to get ~ 47kW stable inside the cavity, always for 30% of laser amplification ratio.
it confirms that the Finesse, and then the gain of FP-cavity, has suddenly increased thanks to some "mirrors surface cleaning"
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This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
in attachement, the Laselock parameters and a picture of a lock.
yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
blue : FP-cavity reflection signal
green: PZT signal
pink: PDH error signal
One has to move again the L-shape arm to remove the HOM
and check if we are able to lock in the same time the FP-cavity on the 500.25MHz reference oscillator... to be done this afternoon.
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it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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drift calculation for the SMA100A, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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the goal is to estimate what could be the frequency drift at 500MHz for the SMA100A: see phase noise datasheet in attachement
Sphi(f) = FFT ( Rphi(T) ) = FFT ( < Phi(t) Phi(t+T) > )
at low frequency, Sphi(f) ~ A / (f^n) = A*(2pi)^n / (i2pi*f)^n => Rphi(T) = A*(2pi)^n*T^(n-1) / (n-1)!
for the SMA100A : n ~ 2 and A =10^-7 at f0=1GHz with B22 option
=> Rphi(T) ~ 4e-6*T
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work with HV voltage on the Laselock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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presently, the voltage on the laser PZT is 0-10V, but during the several runs we did, this voltage is too low to compensate low frequency fluctuations:
we need to change often the motors position implying a cavity lock loss.
we have to check if running the laser PZT with the HV output of the Laselock is possible without too much additionnal noise.
=> it can be done simultaneously with the fast feedback loop implementation, which has to be done. |
work with HV voltage on the Laselock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Yesterday, I checked the 2 output HV channels of the LaseLock : they work properly but the noise is bigger than the low voltage outputs
~ 1mV rms on 0-10V outputs
~ 8 mv rms on 0-100V output
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presently, the voltage on the laser PZT is 0-10V, but during the several runs we did, this voltage is too low to compensate low frequency fluctuations:
we need to change often the motors position implying a cavity lock loss.
we have to check if running the laser PZT with the HV output of the Laselock is possible without too much additionnal noise.
=> it can be done simultaneously with the fast feedback loop implementation, which has to be done.
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work with HV voltage on the Laselock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This afternoon, I connected the HV output of the Laselock (instead of the standard 0-10V output) to the FP-cavity PZT to increase the locking range.
I didn't see any degradation of the FP-cavity/synthesizer lock.
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presently, the voltage on the laser PZT is 0-10V, but during the several runs we did, this voltage is too low to compensate low frequency fluctuations:
we need to change often the motors position implying a cavity lock loss.
we have to check if running the laser PZT with the HV output of the Laselock is possible without too much additionnal noise.
=> it can be done simultaneously with the fast feedback loop implementation, which has to be done.
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Removing high order modes, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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this morning we locked the laser and the FP-cavity with ~ 40kW => some HOM appeared "randomly" depending on the power.
we tried to play manually on the L-shape arm :
- first, we moved horizontally to put the L-shape in the beam axis
at some point, we saw the power level divided by ~2, we stopped and came back to restore the full power.
- then, we tried to move vertically.
whatever the direction, we were not able to see a clear cut of the beam.
BUT "strangely", at some point, the PZT drift followed the direction of the motion and was not really depending on the "cooling" or "heating" process when the lock stops or restart.
"strangely" again, at the endpoint, the power dropped by ~20-30% after a delock but it was impossible to restore the power when we put the arm at the initial position.
=> we had to adjust the FP-cavity alignment to restore the power !!!
=> we had the feeling that moving the arm could have misalign the cavity axis !!! :-(
=> we have to discuss with Yann and get the CAD files of the cavity to have a better understanding... |
Removing high order modes, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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here is the picture of the L-shape arm and the inside of the vessel.
this image corresponds to the "zero" position on each positionner.
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this morning we locked the laser and the FP-cavity with ~ 40kW => some HOM appeared "randomly" depending on the power.
we tried to play manually on the L-shape arm :
- first, we moved horizontally to put the L-shape in the beam axis
at some point, we saw the power level divided by ~2, we stopped and came back to restore the full power.
- then, we tried to move vertically.
whatever the direction, we were not able to see a clear cut of the beam.
BUT "strangely", at some point, the PZT drift followed the direction of the motion and was not really depending on the "cooling" or "heating" process when the lock stops or restart.
"strangely" again, at the endpoint, the power dropped by ~20-30% after a delock but it was impossible to restore the power when we put the arm at the initial position.
=> we had to adjust the FP-cavity alignment to restore the power !!!
=> we had the feeling that moving the arm could have misalign the cavity axis !!! :-(
=> we have to discuss with Yann and get the CAD files of the cavity to have a better understanding...
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Removing high order modes, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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yesterday with Daniele, we tried again to move the arm horizontally and vertically from the "zero position" to have a better understanding of the beahvior,
but it is roughly the same :
- a clear beam power reduction (=> cut of the beam) when one moves the horizontal axis
- a very small beam power reduction when one moves the vertical axis
as there are no end-position limits on the axis and as it is possible to "touch" the motors or different mecanichal pieces, we prefered to be conservative:
after several tries, one placed the arm at a position where the HOMs seem to be pretty well suppressed.
for the moment, we will consider this arm in a proper position.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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here is the picture of the L-shape arm and the inside of the vessel.
this image corresponds to the "zero" position on each positionner.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning we locked the laser and the FP-cavity with ~ 40kW => some HOM appeared "randomly" depending on the power.
we tried to play manually on the L-shape arm :
- first, we moved horizontally to put the L-shape in the beam axis
at some point, we saw the power level divided by ~2, we stopped and came back to restore the full power.
- then, we tried to move vertically.
whatever the direction, we were not able to see a clear cut of the beam.
BUT "strangely", at some point, the PZT drift followed the direction of the motion and was not really depending on the "cooling" or "heating" process when the lock stops or restart.
"strangely" again, at the endpoint, the power dropped by ~20-30% after a delock but it was impossible to restore the power when we put the arm at the initial position.
=> we had to adjust the FP-cavity alignment to restore the power !!!
=> we had the feeling that moving the arm could have misalign the cavity axis !!! :-(
=> we have to discuss with Yann and get the CAD files of the cavity to have a better understanding...
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file. |
33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics  
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this morning, I tested the laser+amplifier @ 30% lock on the FP cavity with and without Smaract motors.
I recorded the PDH error signal during a lock:
- blue : with Smaract motors controller powered ON but motors are stopped
- yellow: with Smaract motors controller powered OFF
with Smaract motors controller powered ON and motors stopped, one can see a group of resonances around 10kHz (8 - 11 - 14kHz) which disappears when the controller is powered OFF.
one can see also a group of resonances around 25-30kHz for which some peaks desappear when the controller is OFF but most of them are still there... could it come from noise on the Onefive laser PZT ?
one can see also a noise reduction at low frequency with a corner frequency around 17kHz, which could be the Unity Gain Bandwidth of the feedback loop on the laser PZT (fast feedback loop on EOM was disconnected)
=> to be confirmed
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I was able to lock with a decent noise on transmission and reflection signals @ Pin=17W (30%) of input power and with a coupling ~ 20%.
I measured 31mW in transmission => Pcav ~ 10.3kW (T ~ 3ppm)
as T1=115 ppm and F=30000, the cavity gain is T1*(F/pi)^2 = 10.5k,
so, the FP cavity power should have been 17W * 20% * 10,5k = 35.7 kW !!! (maybe the formula is wrong if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect)
=> we have to check the incoming power and the formula !
so, maximum expected power in FP-cavity could be 70W * 100% * 10,5k * (10.3/35.7) = 210 kW !!! :-(
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I was able to redo the lock easily in remote in the control room (with the Smaract motors controller OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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I checked with the Matlab code below the CEP detuning effect (2nm sech² spectrum... not exactly the same as in ThomX)
@ CEP = 0 => coupling = 100% and Gcav = 10.5k
if all the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect :
@ CEP = pi/5 => coupling = 20% and Gcav = 2.14k (~ 10.5k x 20%)
so, it does not matter if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect or from beam mismatch or misalignment.
=> we should have more power at 20% coupling, not 10kW but 35kW !!!
=> we have to check the real input power !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I tested the laser+amplifier @ 30% lock on the FP cavity with and without Smaract motors.
I recorded the PDH error signal during a lock:
- blue : with Smaract motors controller powered ON but motors are stopped
- yellow: with Smaract motors controller powered OFF
with Smaract motors controller powered ON and motors stopped, one can see a group of resonances around 10kHz (8 - 11 - 14kHz) which disappears when the controller is powered OFF.
one can see also a group of resonances around 25-30kHz for which some peaks desappear when the controller is OFF but most of them are still there... could it come from noise on the Onefive laser PZT ?
one can see also a noise reduction at low frequency with a corner frequency around 17kHz, which could be the Unity Gain Bandwidth of the feedback loop on the laser PZT (fast feedback loop on EOM was disconnected)
=> to be confirmed
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to lock with a decent noise on transmission and reflection signals @ Pin=17W (30%) of input power and with a coupling ~ 20%.
I measured 31mW in transmission => Pcav ~ 10.3kW (T ~ 3ppm)
as T1=115 ppm and F=30000, the cavity gain is T1*(F/pi)^2 = 10.5k,
so, the FP cavity power should have been 17W * 20% * 10,5k = 35.7 kW !!! (maybe the formula is wrong if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect)
=> we have to check the incoming power and the formula !
so, maximum expected power in FP-cavity could be 70W * 100% * 10,5k * (10.3/35.7) = 210 kW !!! :-(
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to redo the lock easily in remote in the control room (with the Smaract motors controller OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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we checked yesterday morning the real input power @ 30% for the amp => it is 16W in agreement with the previously measured values
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I checked with the Matlab code below the CEP detuning effect (2nm sech² spectrum... not exactly the same as in ThomX)
@ CEP = 0 => coupling = 100% and Gcav = 10.5k
if all the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect :
@ CEP = pi/5 => coupling = 20% and Gcav = 2.14k (~ 10.5k x 20%)
so, it does not matter if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect or from beam mismatch or misalignment.
=> we should have more power at 20% coupling, not 10kW but 35kW !!!
=> we have to check the real input power !
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this morning, I tested the laser+amplifier @ 30% lock on the FP cavity with and without Smaract motors.
I recorded the PDH error signal during a lock:
- blue : with Smaract motors controller powered ON but motors are stopped
- yellow: with Smaract motors controller powered OFF
with Smaract motors controller powered ON and motors stopped, one can see a group of resonances around 10kHz (8 - 11 - 14kHz) which disappears when the controller is powered OFF.
one can see also a group of resonances around 25-30kHz for which some peaks desappear when the controller is OFF but most of them are still there... could it come from noise on the Onefive laser PZT ?
one can see also a noise reduction at low frequency with a corner frequency around 17kHz, which could be the Unity Gain Bandwidth of the feedback loop on the laser PZT (fast feedback loop on EOM was disconnected)
=> to be confirmed
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I was able to lock with a decent noise on transmission and reflection signals @ Pin=17W (30%) of input power and with a coupling ~ 20%.
I measured 31mW in transmission => Pcav ~ 10.3kW (T ~ 3ppm)
as T1=115 ppm and F=30000, the cavity gain is T1*(F/pi)^2 = 10.5k,
so, the FP cavity power should have been 17W * 20% * 10,5k = 35.7 kW !!! (maybe the formula is wrong if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect)
=> we have to check the incoming power and the formula !
so, maximum expected power in FP-cavity could be 70W * 100% * 10,5k * (10.3/35.7) = 210 kW !!! :-(
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I was able to redo the lock easily in remote in the control room (with the Smaract motors controller OFF).
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After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
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today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
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finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today, we locked the cavity with input power @ 30% for the amp => we got 40kW with only 30% of coupling (and a bad lock => we could have more power inside cavity).
P@30% = 16W
Coupling = 30% => 4.8W of input power => Measured Gain = 8300
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we checked yesterday morning the real input power @ 30% for the amp => it is 16W in agreement with the previously measured values
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I checked with the Matlab code below the CEP detuning effect (2nm sech² spectrum... not exactly the same as in ThomX)
@ CEP = 0 => coupling = 100% and Gcav = 10.5k
if all the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect :
@ CEP = pi/5 => coupling = 20% and Gcav = 2.14k (~ 10.5k x 20%)
so, it does not matter if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect or from beam mismatch or misalignment.
=> we should have more power at 20% coupling, not 10kW but 35kW !!!
=> we have to check the real input power !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I tested the laser+amplifier @ 30% lock on the FP cavity with and without Smaract motors.
I recorded the PDH error signal during a lock:
- blue : with Smaract motors controller powered ON but motors are stopped
- yellow: with Smaract motors controller powered OFF
with Smaract motors controller powered ON and motors stopped, one can see a group of resonances around 10kHz (8 - 11 - 14kHz) which disappears when the controller is powered OFF.
one can see also a group of resonances around 25-30kHz for which some peaks desappear when the controller is OFF but most of them are still there... could it come from noise on the Onefive laser PZT ?
one can see also a noise reduction at low frequency with a corner frequency around 17kHz, which could be the Unity Gain Bandwidth of the feedback loop on the laser PZT (fast feedback loop on EOM was disconnected)
=> to be confirmed
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to lock with a decent noise on transmission and reflection signals @ Pin=17W (30%) of input power and with a coupling ~ 20%.
I measured 31mW in transmission => Pcav ~ 10.3kW (T ~ 3ppm)
as T1=115 ppm and F=30000, the cavity gain is T1*(F/pi)^2 = 10.5k,
so, the FP cavity power should have been 17W * 20% * 10,5k = 35.7 kW !!! (maybe the formula is wrong if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect)
=> we have to check the incoming power and the formula !
so, maximum expected power in FP-cavity could be 70W * 100% * 10,5k * (10.3/35.7) = 210 kW !!! :-(
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to redo the lock easily in remote in the control room (with the Smaract motors controller OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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33MHz oscillator + Alphanov amplifier lock, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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redoing the PDH error signal scheme with discrete components is more flexible and it is easier to check the signal/noise ratio.
now, we are able to get a quite clean lock only with the PZT correction (w/o fast feedback correction using the EOM) even with both motors controllers ON (cavity and laser).
then, one can consider this part is over, even if one can still improve the lock with the EOM.
see this post for that part and some details on the new PDH signal scheme : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/240
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Today, we locked the cavity with input power @ 30% for the amp => we got 40kW with only 30% of coupling (and a bad lock => we could have more power inside cavity).
P@30% = 16W
Coupling = 30% => 4.8W of input power => Measured Gain = 8300
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we checked yesterday morning the real input power @ 30% for the amp => it is 16W in agreement with the previously measured values
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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I checked with the Matlab code below the CEP detuning effect (2nm sech² spectrum... not exactly the same as in ThomX)
@ CEP = 0 => coupling = 100% and Gcav = 10.5k
if all the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect :
@ CEP = pi/5 => coupling = 20% and Gcav = 2.14k (~ 10.5k x 20%)
so, it does not matter if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect or from beam mismatch or misalignment.
=> we should have more power at 20% coupling, not 10kW but 35kW !!!
=> we have to check the real input power !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning, I tested the laser+amplifier @ 30% lock on the FP cavity with and without Smaract motors.
I recorded the PDH error signal during a lock:
- blue : with Smaract motors controller powered ON but motors are stopped
- yellow: with Smaract motors controller powered OFF
with Smaract motors controller powered ON and motors stopped, one can see a group of resonances around 10kHz (8 - 11 - 14kHz) which disappears when the controller is powered OFF.
one can see also a group of resonances around 25-30kHz for which some peaks desappear when the controller is OFF but most of them are still there... could it come from noise on the Onefive laser PZT ?
one can see also a noise reduction at low frequency with a corner frequency around 17kHz, which could be the Unity Gain Bandwidth of the feedback loop on the laser PZT (fast feedback loop on EOM was disconnected)
=> to be confirmed
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to lock with a decent noise on transmission and reflection signals @ Pin=17W (30%) of input power and with a coupling ~ 20%.
I measured 31mW in transmission => Pcav ~ 10.3kW (T ~ 3ppm)
as T1=115 ppm and F=30000, the cavity gain is T1*(F/pi)^2 = 10.5k,
so, the FP cavity power should have been 17W * 20% * 10,5k = 35.7 kW !!! (maybe the formula is wrong if the coupling loss comes from the CEP detuning effect)
=> we have to check the incoming power and the formula !
so, maximum expected power in FP-cavity could be 70W * 100% * 10,5k * (10.3/35.7) = 210 kW !!! :-(
*************************************************************************************************************************************************************
I was able to redo the lock easily in remote in the control room (with the Smaract motors controller OFF).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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After removing the 2 generators from the optical table, the lock is much more stable and now, it is possible to lock on the main resonance with a poor CEP but with quite good stability.
the coupling is still very low ~ 5% for that CEP but if one improves it (CEP ->0), using the laser double-wedge motor, one clearly sees an improvement of the coupling... but at the cost of the lock stability.
the reason of the poor coupling is also because the laser amplifier is used at 0%, for which we know the part of the laser signal power, compared to the total power, is low.
(a part of the beam @1030nm is not propagating in the fiber core of the amp, and then, it cannot be coupled to the FP-cavity).
the fast lock loop on the EOM has been disabled for the moment.
it has to be installed back to improve the stability at a better CEP.
at present, the FP-cavity power is estimated at ~ 90W (~270µW in transmission of ~3ppm mirrors) for ~300mW of total power coming from the laser amp.
next steps :
- in Open Loop : check what is the best coupling we can observe for CEP=0 @ P ~ 10W (laser amp at ~ 25%)
- in Closed Loop : @ P ~ 10W => measure the best transmitted power after alignement/polarization/feedback adjust => ~ 3-10kW in the cavity ?
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Daniele, we locked easily (but with a noisy lock) on the secundary resonance and we tried to lock on the main resonance (with very low coupling ~10% which mean a CEP ~Pi)
the lock was possible but was very noisy.
I installed a fast loop using my small DC amplifier based on OP37 (max gain=100) modified to be AC coupled to avoid to amplify the PDH box offset.
the output votage swing of the OP37 is only ~10V. Thus, the effect of this fast loop on the lock stability is not visible !
Thus, I added the M250 Leysop HV amplifier (see attached documentation), which is able to drive an EOM with >5MHz bandwidth and ~250V swing, after my OP37 amplifier.
with this additionnal HV amplifier, now we can clearly see the effect of the EOM loop which improves the lock stability BUT, even with a poor CEP, the lock is very unstable on the main resonance.
it seems the optical phase noise is still too large and/or its BW too high to be completely compensated.
The next step is to try to remove all the possible noise sources from the optical table:
- the laptop placed on the ionic pump
- the 2 Rigol generators on the table surface
and switch off the controller of the Smaract laser cavity motors.
If it doesn't help, we can send the error signal to a spectrum analyzer to have a better view of the different harmonics involved in the residual phase noise.
could it remain some noise above the present PDH box BW (1.9MHz LP filter) ?
lastely, we can also make an optical phase noise measurement to check if the Alphanov amplifier does not add some noise.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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finding the right modulation/demodulation PDH phase is very difficult on the main resonance because the we get non stationnary signals with a lot of oscillations.
changing the phase, in this condition, does not really change the error signal.
Then, we moved on the first secundary resonance with less gain and less coupling.
Thus, the error signal is more similar to the theoretical PDH signal => one can adjust the modulation/demodulation PDH phase to get the maximum error signal.
then, we locked pretty easily on this first secondary resonance, with a coupling around some % when we adjust the CEP motor.
we tried to lock on the main resonance but it is too noisy and unstable.
it seems we really need high BW feedback.
I tried to add a fast analog loop on the laser intra-cavity EOM but without a clear effect.
the problem is the gain of this loop : it is difficult to produce a "high voltage" (above 10Vpp) on this EOM.
I put "my" amplifier but the voltage output is limited... commercial amplifiers will have the same issue.
we can add HV amplifiers but it takes place and it will add some noise on the signal.
A loop with an AOM could be easier to install and manage... but at the price of a loss of power before the laser amplifier...
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the last tries to lock the 33MHz + amplifier to the 30k Finesse FP-cavity were unsuccessful.
during a laser Frep scan using the Laselock, one observes that the main cavity resonance is not able to stay inside the PZT scan range from one scan to another (500ms-1s period)
is it the effect of a large and slow phase noise ?
some informations:
- The 33MHz laser came back at lab from repair on March 2018.
- it has been sent to Alphanov in May 2020.
- it failled and has been sent to NKT/OneFive for repair in September 2021
- it came back to lab from repair in June 2022.
- on post #92 (Feb. 2020), it seems that we already locked the 33MHz laser + CELIA amplifier to the ThomX FP-cavity.
- The PZT sensitivity for the 33MHz laser is given to 0,3Hz/V for Frep <=> 2.6MHz/V for optical frequency.
=> 10V on PZT is equivalent to 26MHz of optical frequency shift which is less than FSR !
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the 133MHz laser is given to 3.9Hz/V for Frep <=> 8.5MHz/V for optical frequency.
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the NKT CW laser is given 10pm/100V for Wavelength <=> 30MHz/V for optical frequency
- by comparison, the PZT sensitivity for the ThomX FP cavity (Z20H38x40C) is 4nm/V for length expansion => 8nm/V for round-trip expansion <=> 0.03Hz/V for FSR expansion <=> 260kHz/V for optical frequency !!!
the PZT expansion estimation is in attached file.
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Onefive laser modelock and Smaract CEP controller, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, during an attempt in improving the CEP with the Smaract controller CH2, we lost the laser modelock.
at this point, we decided to reference the Smaract CH2 for CEP :
now, 0 mm is roughly the middle of the motor range.
the endpoints of the motor are : +/- 5.9 mm
once we found back the laser modelock, we searched for the region where the modelock was still effective : +/- 1.8 mm |
Smaract controller remplacement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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previously, we were using a spare Smaract MCS controller to drive the Onefive linear stages (without -LV -low vibration- option and using Ethernet),
during the repair of the initial MCS controller with -LV option.
this morning, it has been remplaced by the initial OEM Smaract MCS controller integrated by Onefive (with -LV option and using USB).
it worked fine with the Precision Tool Commander 2 software ! |
FP-cavity FSR shift, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, to match the ring frequency at 500.25MHz (15th laser harmonic), we did a frequency shift on the laser using the Smaract motors (not too fast, ~2µm/s, to prevent laser modelock loss)
and we "followed" this shift on the FP-cavity using the FP-cavity motors.
we did several steps during the operation, to control the alignment, coupling and transmission.
finally, we locked again the laser and FP-cavity at 17kW for 30% of input power.
the coupling was quite low ~10% |
Equipments shutdown, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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on the August 30rd and 31th, a global power shutdown was forseen for ThomX.
to prevent damage on equipments, I switched off all of them (and disconnected power cables from the wall plugs).
yesterday, after the week-end, all the equipments have been restarted and the cavity as been locked properly.
the power coupled to the input fiber of the amplifier has decreased a little bit from 3.8mW to 3mW during summer.
=> we need perharps to do some alignment on the Schaftner-Krischoff mount. |
ThomX ring injection kicker noise => USB communication issue with Alphanov amplifier, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about detectors and electronics
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several times already, when the electrons ring injection kicker is running @10Hz, we observed peaks at the same frequency on reflected and transmitted photodiodes,
at the exact moment when the kicker is activated. we have in addition, USB communication issues with the Alphanov amplifier... the connection is lost several times.
sometime, the connection is retrieved, sometimes not... one has to stop the Alphanov application and restart it => the laser power get down to 0 % !!!
one way to get rid to this problem could be to add a "metallic sock" around the USB cable, to connected to the ground to remove the external charges.
we could ask also for a kicker shielding as this noise could perturbate several systems in the bunker. |
Incoming laser beam power issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today, we observed on the photodiode used in reflexion of the cavity, that its voltage level stops increasing after 50% of power for the laser amplifier when the cavity is not locked (the FP-cavity is just a reflective mirror).
the photodiode itself is not saturated (low power sent after a wedge and an absorbing filter) and the reading is done on 50 ohms.
so we are investigating the reason of this "saturation".
1) we did a beam power measurement just after the 2 mirrors, right after the amplifier, with the "big" powermeter:
power ratio Power (W)
10% => 0.9
20% => 7.7
30% => 15.5
40% => 24.2
50% => 33
60% => 41
70% => 48
80% => 55.5
90% => 62.2
100% => 68
plot in attached file
2) we did the same measurement after the periscope:
power ratio Power (W)
10% => 0.82
20% => 7.7
30% => 15.5
40% => 24.2
50% => 32.6
60% => 39
70% => 44
80% => 47.4
we clearly see a power reduction from 50% and beyond.
with the viewer we saw 2 effects : a slight clipping in the telescope and some speckles on the periscope mirrors mainly.
the laser is also slightly shifted on the 2nd mirror after the amp.
it is possible the laser beam moved due to thermal effect => we will need to realign properly the whole injection line and be aware about mirrors and lens cleaning !
3) we did some measurements using 2 wedges with the "small' powermeter in reflection of the cavity.
we remove the small aperture half-waveplate to see the effect and we used a lens to focalize the beam:
the half-waveplate has an effect on the reflectivity of the wedges, this is the reason of the difference in the measurement.
Power (µW)
power ratio with lambda/2 w/o lambda/2 w/o lambda/2+lens
10% => 12.4 4.8 5.1
20% => 132 48 51
30% => 262 96 101
40% => 370 137 147
50% => 420 158 175
60% => 430 165 181
we observe a clear "saturation" after 50%-60% which is very similar to what we observed with the photodiode in reflection when the cavity is not locked.
the small iris used in front of the injection window of the cavity is a good "candidate" for clipping the beam at high power (we observed it was still quite hot after stopping the beam).
=> we have to redo the measurements after removing it. |
First X rays and FP-cavity mode and electron beam waists size @ IP, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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on friday 23/06 afternoon, after scanning the hexapod z-axis, we observed a cut of the power stored in the FP-cavity (with constant input power/coupling) at both ends of the scan, due to the losses of the beam-pipe aperture.
we placed the hexapod exactly in the middle of this range ~ z=-1.68 mm (which is not the middle of the maximum range of the hexapod), we opened the slits on the X-table and we found the first signal.
after scanning, shuting the laser beam and electron beam ON and OFF, we confirmed this signal was coming from X-rays.
on monday 27/06, roughly in the same condition (25kW of power stored in FP-cavity), we scanned properly the same z-axis with the hexapod and we measured the pico-ampermeter current related to the produced X-rays to get the approximated size of the laser and electron beams at the IP position : see the raw data.
Daniele did the data analysis : see the attached analyse_profil_vert_X-1.pptx file
the total rms size (sigma of the Gaussian profile) is 100µm.
this morning, we measured the FP-cavity waist size by measuring the waist size of beam at the focal distance of a lens used after the spherical mirrors.
we measured the rms size of the FP-cavity mode to be 60µm in agreement with simulations, which leads to 80µm rms for the electron beam waist size. |
PW laser Injection into cavity , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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PW laser Injection into cavity , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics   
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- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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PW laser Injection into cavity , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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PW laser Injection into cavity , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software 13x
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Yesterday, with Ronic we locked ThomX cavity on the second resonance
Laser : 33.36 MHz , Amplifier : 0 % (worked with no errors all day)
adding image for the lock on the second resonance (locked), 00 Mode image, fit, Beam measurements
and image of the first resonance signal (not locked)
Info : when locking on the secondary resonance, we aligned better and adjusted on the oscillator CEP and increased the transmission signal
Controllers connected to computer
through Ethernet :
- Cavity Mirror motors
- Lase lock
- oscillator CEP and Frequency motors (easier to follow the drift with this controller, and we can see it moving)
by USB :
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software 
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Today, I installed a power meter at the transmission point of the 1st spherical mirror , transmission 3 ppm (direct from cavity window beam profiler, no filter)
We locked the cavity at 2 different resonances of the fundamental mode, the lock in both cases was stable for a round 1 minute.
at different transmitted power of 33.85 uW ( 11 W average inside cavity) and then locked again at 82.65 uW (27.5 W average inside cavity) transmitted power
Note : the coupling is almost zero for both of the resonances locked !!!!
Oscillator : 33.33 MHz ( 33.356 MHz , frequency read on LAL software)
power injected into amplifier (after injecting into fiber and an EOM) : 3.886 mW (on LAL software)
Amplifier power : 0% (injected power into cavity ~ 300 mW)
Both images of oscilloscope have same voltage scales, only difference timescale and the color code is :
yellow : transmission
blue : reflection
green : piezo voltage
red : error signal
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday, with Ronic we locked ThomX cavity on the second resonance
Laser : 33.36 MHz , Amplifier : 0 % (worked with no errors all day)
adding image for the lock on the second resonance (locked), 00 Mode image, fit, Beam measurements
and image of the first resonance signal (not locked)
Info : when locking on the secondary resonance, we aligned better and adjusted on the oscillator CEP and increased the transmission signal
Controllers connected to computer
through Ethernet :
- Cavity Mirror motors
- Lase lock
- oscillator CEP and Frequency motors (easier to follow the drift with this controller, and we can see it moving)
by USB :
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software   
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Today with Ronic,
starting with major events that happened (Water circulation + ThomX valves )
- Early in the morning a company worked on the water network, it seemed it was not restarted properly so there was no water circulation in the main ThomX pipes.
- There was an error on the ThomX amplifier chiller , which was noticed at the end of the morning work , where we couldn't find the cavity resonance , could be due to the temperature increase of the amplifer.
- Solved : the issue was solved by restarting the water network and the amplifier chiller was restarted an no error found and temp. Stabilized around 25°
- Around 12h15 ThomX there was a power cut off for less than a second (micro cutt), which cased all the valves to close, the valve air compressor did not restart after the power cut off, we restarted it with Daniele in the evening with the help of Marie and the valves open around 5-6 bar , you will see then all the controllers green and the valves will open.
Results of the day :
- All the power supplies and function generators are under the table, nothing on the table (reduced noise on the signal)
- EOM of Oscillator Off (for now, might turn on if needed)
- Amplifier on 0% , output ~ 300 mW
- Locked on the first resonance of the cavity, lase lock parameters to be optimized better
- Transmitted power increased to ~ 267.2 uW
- Average power inside cavity = 89. 06 W , peak power = 0.2 kW (pulse width = 12.6 ps , frep = 33.36 MHz )
- current effective cavity gain > 300
Oscilloscope :
- error signal, not shown as it was too noisy to have in the image
- blue : reflection (low bypass filter ), yellow : transmission (resistance of 100 k ohm added), green : piezo signal
- 1st image : showing lock and scan regions.
- 2nd image: time zoom on the locked signal
oscillators controller / smartAct:
- Frequency and CEP control , the parameters in the photo attached are the best for the moment to see the smooth change of the resonance peaks when operating the motors, and we can stay FSR range and compensate the variation easily.
- even though we stayed at closed loop (for easier adjustment), we still managed to lock , will try to switch off later to see if reduces a lot of noise.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today, I installed a power meter at the transmission point of the 1st spherical mirror , transmission 3 ppm (direct from cavity window beam profiler, no filter)
We locked the cavity at 2 different resonances of the fundamental mode, the lock in both cases was stable for a round 1 minute.
at different transmitted power of 33.85 uW ( 11 W average inside cavity) and then locked again at 82.65 uW (27.5 W average inside cavity) transmitted power
Note : the coupling is almost zero for both of the resonances locked !!!!
Oscillator : 33.33 MHz ( 33.356 MHz , frequency read on LAL software)
power injected into amplifier (after injecting into fiber and an EOM) : 3.886 mW (on LAL software)
Amplifier power : 0% (injected power into cavity ~ 300 mW)
Both images of oscilloscope have same voltage scales, only difference timescale and the color code is :
yellow : transmission
blue : reflection
green : piezo voltage
red : error signal
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday, with Ronic we locked ThomX cavity on the second resonance
Laser : 33.36 MHz , Amplifier : 0 % (worked with no errors all day)
adding image for the lock on the second resonance (locked), 00 Mode image, fit, Beam measurements
and image of the first resonance signal (not locked)
Info : when locking on the secondary resonance, we aligned better and adjusted on the oscillator CEP and increased the transmission signal
Controllers connected to computer
through Ethernet :
- Cavity Mirror motors
- Lase lock
- oscillator CEP and Frequency motors (easier to follow the drift with this controller, and we can see it moving)
by USB :
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software 
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In the morning, we locked on the first resonance. With an increase on the amplifier power @ 20-25% and 30%, which reduced the noise
we manage to get a coupling when improving the CEP up to 55 - 60 % coupling : put there is still a drift on the CEP
The controller for the oscillator frep and CEP produces a lot of noise, even if it is disconnected. we need to switch it off to remove its effect (Kevin will order a new one)
The image attached is of the oscilloscope lock on the first resonance @30% amplifier power ~ 10 W injected into cavity,
transmitted power ~ 36 mW (cavity average power 12 kW)
cavity effective gain > 1200
in the afternoon, we installed and aligned a gentec power meter we can monitor from the computer. (will need to buy a permeant one for ThomX)
there was an issue with the laselock USB connection, yet to be solved.
and the control of the computer.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic,
starting with major events that happened (Water circulation + ThomX valves )
- Early in the morning a company worked on the water network, it seemed it was not restarted properly so there was no water circulation in the main ThomX pipes.
- There was an error on the ThomX amplifier chiller , which was noticed at the end of the morning work , where we couldn't find the cavity resonance , could be due to the temperature increase of the amplifer.
- Solved : the issue was solved by restarting the water network and the amplifier chiller was restarted an no error found and temp. Stabilized around 25°
- Around 12h15 ThomX there was a power cut off for less than a second (micro cutt), which cased all the valves to close, the valve air compressor did not restart after the power cut off, we restarted it with Daniele in the evening with the help of Marie and the valves open around 5-6 bar , you will see then all the controllers green and the valves will open.
Results of the day :
- All the power supplies and function generators are under the table, nothing on the table (reduced noise on the signal)
- EOM of Oscillator Off (for now, might turn on if needed)
- Amplifier on 0% , output ~ 300 mW
- Locked on the first resonance of the cavity, lase lock parameters to be optimized better
- Transmitted power increased to ~ 267.2 uW
- Average power inside cavity = 89. 06 W , peak power = 0.2 kW (pulse width = 12.6 ps , frep = 33.36 MHz )
- current effective cavity gain > 300
Oscilloscope :
- error signal, not shown as it was too noisy to have in the image
- blue : reflection (low bypass filter ), yellow : transmission (resistance of 100 k ohm added), green : piezo signal
- 1st image : showing lock and scan regions.
- 2nd image: time zoom on the locked signal
oscillators controller / smartAct:
- Frequency and CEP control , the parameters in the photo attached are the best for the moment to see the smooth change of the resonance peaks when operating the motors, and we can stay FSR range and compensate the variation easily.
- even though we stayed at closed loop (for easier adjustment), we still managed to lock , will try to switch off later to see if reduces a lot of noise.
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Today, I installed a power meter at the transmission point of the 1st spherical mirror , transmission 3 ppm (direct from cavity window beam profiler, no filter)
We locked the cavity at 2 different resonances of the fundamental mode, the lock in both cases was stable for a round 1 minute.
at different transmitted power of 33.85 uW ( 11 W average inside cavity) and then locked again at 82.65 uW (27.5 W average inside cavity) transmitted power
Note : the coupling is almost zero for both of the resonances locked !!!!
Oscillator : 33.33 MHz ( 33.356 MHz , frequency read on LAL software)
power injected into amplifier (after injecting into fiber and an EOM) : 3.886 mW (on LAL software)
Amplifier power : 0% (injected power into cavity ~ 300 mW)
Both images of oscilloscope have same voltage scales, only difference timescale and the color code is :
yellow : transmission
blue : reflection
green : piezo voltage
red : error signal
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Yesterday, with Ronic we locked ThomX cavity on the second resonance
Laser : 33.36 MHz , Amplifier : 0 % (worked with no errors all day)
adding image for the lock on the second resonance (locked), 00 Mode image, fit, Beam measurements
and image of the first resonance signal (not locked)
Info : when locking on the secondary resonance, we aligned better and adjusted on the oscillator CEP and increased the transmission signal
Controllers connected to computer
through Ethernet :
- Cavity Mirror motors
- Lase lock
- oscillator CEP and Frequency motors (easier to follow the drift with this controller, and we can see it moving)
by USB :
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Lock - Alphanov Amplifier , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | cabling | software
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The computer is possible to connect from the control room,
we are able to run remotely the amplifier, cavity motors, oscillator motors, lase lock (note: there is an issue with the keyboard, we are not able to use it with remote access!!!!!!!!)
Note on Amplifier: On Friday, Daniele and Ronic faced again the temperature issue that came up before. it is due to the fluctuation of the diode temperature.
It was fixed today by Ronic and Daniele. it seems there are three diodes for monitoring the temperature, only one was connected, and it had issues, with some directions from alphanov.
Ronic just removed the defective diode and soldered (connected) a different one. The amplifier should work without this issue.
now we start searching for X-rays after locking the cavity remotely
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In the morning, we locked on the first resonance. With an increase on the amplifier power @ 20-25% and 30%, which reduced the noise
we manage to get a coupling when improving the CEP up to 55 - 60 % coupling : put there is still a drift on the CEP
The controller for the oscillator frep and CEP produces a lot of noise, even if it is disconnected. we need to switch it off to remove its effect (Kevin will order a new one)
The image attached is of the oscilloscope lock on the first resonance @30% amplifier power ~ 10 W injected into cavity,
transmitted power ~ 36 mW (cavity average power 12 kW)
cavity effective gain > 1200
in the afternoon, we installed and aligned a gentec power meter we can monitor from the computer. (will need to buy a permeant one for ThomX)
there was an issue with the laselock USB connection, yet to be solved.
and the control of the computer.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic,
starting with major events that happened (Water circulation + ThomX valves )
- Early in the morning a company worked on the water network, it seemed it was not restarted properly so there was no water circulation in the main ThomX pipes.
- There was an error on the ThomX amplifier chiller , which was noticed at the end of the morning work , where we couldn't find the cavity resonance , could be due to the temperature increase of the amplifer.
- Solved : the issue was solved by restarting the water network and the amplifier chiller was restarted an no error found and temp. Stabilized around 25°
- Around 12h15 ThomX there was a power cut off for less than a second (micro cutt), which cased all the valves to close, the valve air compressor did not restart after the power cut off, we restarted it with Daniele in the evening with the help of Marie and the valves open around 5-6 bar , you will see then all the controllers green and the valves will open.
Results of the day :
- All the power supplies and function generators are under the table, nothing on the table (reduced noise on the signal)
- EOM of Oscillator Off (for now, might turn on if needed)
- Amplifier on 0% , output ~ 300 mW
- Locked on the first resonance of the cavity, lase lock parameters to be optimized better
- Transmitted power increased to ~ 267.2 uW
- Average power inside cavity = 89. 06 W , peak power = 0.2 kW (pulse width = 12.6 ps , frep = 33.36 MHz )
- current effective cavity gain > 300
Oscilloscope :
- error signal, not shown as it was too noisy to have in the image
- blue : reflection (low bypass filter ), yellow : transmission (resistance of 100 k ohm added), green : piezo signal
- 1st image : showing lock and scan regions.
- 2nd image: time zoom on the locked signal
oscillators controller / smartAct:
- Frequency and CEP control , the parameters in the photo attached are the best for the moment to see the smooth change of the resonance peaks when operating the motors, and we can stay FSR range and compensate the variation easily.
- even though we stayed at closed loop (for easier adjustment), we still managed to lock , will try to switch off later to see if reduces a lot of noise.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today, I installed a power meter at the transmission point of the 1st spherical mirror , transmission 3 ppm (direct from cavity window beam profiler, no filter)
We locked the cavity at 2 different resonances of the fundamental mode, the lock in both cases was stable for a round 1 minute.
at different transmitted power of 33.85 uW ( 11 W average inside cavity) and then locked again at 82.65 uW (27.5 W average inside cavity) transmitted power
Note : the coupling is almost zero for both of the resonances locked !!!!
Oscillator : 33.33 MHz ( 33.356 MHz , frequency read on LAL software)
power injected into amplifier (after injecting into fiber and an EOM) : 3.886 mW (on LAL software)
Amplifier power : 0% (injected power into cavity ~ 300 mW)
Both images of oscilloscope have same voltage scales, only difference timescale and the color code is :
yellow : transmission
blue : reflection
green : piezo voltage
red : error signal
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Yesterday, with Ronic we locked ThomX cavity on the second resonance
Laser : 33.36 MHz , Amplifier : 0 % (worked with no errors all day)
adding image for the lock on the second resonance (locked), 00 Mode image, fit, Beam measurements
and image of the first resonance signal (not locked)
Info : when locking on the secondary resonance, we aligned better and adjusted on the oscillator CEP and increased the transmission signal
Controllers connected to computer
through Ethernet :
- Cavity Mirror motors
- Lase lock
- oscillator CEP and Frequency motors (easier to follow the drift with this controller, and we can see it moving)
by USB :
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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This morning, while trying Guillaume solution of disconnecting the 24 V necessary to the second and third stage and raise the threshold of Temp preamp 1 (to only operate the ampli with first stage only)
Ronic disconnected the 24 volt connection, turned on amplifier LAL software but no MMD3 error or a big temp on Temp preamp 1 , software worked fine with no issue.
we connected the 24 V again and the software worked with no issues.
Still not sure what happened for it to work correctly !!!!!!!!!!
- We used the amplifier at 0% all day with no errors (to test , I turned it for 10 minutes @ 10% with no error too)
- We changed the lase lock box with ThomX one (having Ethernet connection), it was connected to computer and works ok
- Ronic installed a signal amplifier for the PDH error signal. (yet to be fully optimized)
- we see a better coupling than before in the cavity.
- The dominant mode is 00 mode, but we see many higher order modes, need to alight better.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today with Ronic and Daniele we attempted to lock the cavity, but the alphanov amplifier did not turn on because of an error in MMD3 (related to the third stage)
the new error is having the MMD3 error show on the alarm window of the LAL software, and having the Alarms on the line 3 of the alphanov software red for both EXT/CPU and Laser T Max (never been red before)
this is after a 2-week work stop, but the last time when Daniele changed the fiber connector it worked for 3 hours with no errors.
Ronic, is in contact with Guillaume from Alphanov to fix the issue !!!
Work scheduled all Wednesday, in hopes the issue is fixed by then.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Added Note: the coupling we get is at low power, only preamplifier is on (~ 300 mW)
was done at the end due to excitation of higher order modes.
Wanted to improve the fundamental first, then increase the power.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
- On Monday with Daniele,
- we did full characterization of amplifier beam @ 10% amplification, adjusted the telescope accordingly and injected into the cavity aligned and improved on the fundamental mode.
- On Tuesday with Daniele and Kevin
- I added a low pass filter between 1 - 1.9 MHz on the reflected signal, to reject the oscillator signal (33.33 MHz)
- removed the external resistors on the signal, only the internal resistance of the oscilloscope used ( transmission : 1 M ohm , Reflection : 50 ohm )
- We connected the motors to control the CEP and adjusted on them until we reached ~ 5 -10% coupling
- Images:
- 1st : showing the size of the beam just before injecting into the cavity @ 10%
- 2nd: signal with only improved alignment (not CEP adjustment yet), no low pass filter added yet
- 3rd : zoom on the signals (reflection and error) while adjusting on the CEP
- 4th :attempting to lock the cavity , after getting the max coupling using the CEP motors
Note : the voltage ranges are not the same between the images
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Yesterday,
- we installed the second high power reflecting mirrors at the output of the amplifier.
- We aligned and installed a telescope that has adjustable distance between the 2 lenses of -100 mm, and + 200 mm, with approximate diameter at the injection window of ~ 4.5 mm.
- Amplifier was turned on only at the first stage only (output power ~ 300 mW) aligned and injected into the cavity.
- Measured the repetition frequency of the One Five oscillators, Frep = 33.326239 MHz
- Changed the FSR of the cavity to match it.
- Using the Piezo scan on the oscillator, we observed 00 Mode, Fundamental. the shape is the same
- We see transmission on the diode, but there was zero coupling observed (yet to be investigated experimentally )
- a reason could be the CEP of the oscillator ,
- bad matching of the beam waist position,
- noise from the amplifier (as we were operating it at very low power)
- additional alignment needed,
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Cavity Alighnment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 9x
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Last week, with Ronic and Victor we aligned the cavity using CW laser (Koheras)
- we have also installed 4 mirrors in the cavity with the best theoretical qualities (serial number and images included)
- The Plan ULE mirror P4 thickness was not compatible with the piezoelectric mount. We had to install a metal spacer behind the mirror to be able to fix it. the metal spacers in from ThorLabs made from INOX, It is 1 inch diameter (25.4 mm), we drilled a hole in the middle of 15 mm in the Workshop in bat 200. Then cleaned it using an ultrasound bath in pure water, using a small Ultrasound bath machine in Maverics platform Vide and Surfaces next to ThomX eglo.
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- This gives some difficulties in imaging the transmission at P4. To help with the imaging, we used the plastic #D printed irises that Yann made long time ago
- we took images of the mode inside the cavity at P4 transmission.
- We also observed some oxidization on the metal bars of the controllers, more on the side of S2 and P4. we are yet to test the motion of the motors in the z-axis.
- Friday evening we closed the windows using a new copper rings (last one we have, Ronic placed a new order).
- The pump was turned on by Bruno and Eric yesterday afternoon. The current vacuum level is 6-7*10^-6 mbar
the pre and the turbo pimps are on so still too noisy to work, we have access all day tomorrow.
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Cavity Alighnment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | vacuum | detectors and electronics 
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Today, we prepared lenses for a telescope for the CW laser injection into the cavity, yet to be installed
Image of the transmission at P4 attached, an estimation of the beam size of the mode see is ~ 5.5 mm
The vacuum in the 2 optical cavities is decreasing but slowly. today it is 2.6 - 2.4 * 10^-7 mbar
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Last week, with Ronic and Victor we aligned the cavity using CW laser (Koheras)
- we have also installed 4 mirrors in the cavity with the best theoretical qualities (serial number and images included)
- The Plan ULE mirror P4 thickness was not compatible with the piezoelectric mount. We had to install a metal spacer behind the mirror to be able to fix it. the metal spacers in from ThorLabs made from INOX, It is 1 inch diameter (25.4 mm), we drilled a hole in the middle of 15 mm in the Workshop in bat 200. Then cleaned it using an ultrasound bath in pure water, using a small Ultrasound bath machine in Maverics platform Vide and Surfaces next to ThomX eglo.
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- This gives some difficulties in imaging the transmission at P4. To help with the imaging, we used the plastic #D printed irises that Yann made long time ago
- we took images of the mode inside the cavity at P4 transmission.
- We also observed some oxidization on the metal bars of the controllers, more on the side of S2 and P4. we are yet to test the motion of the motors in the z-axis.
- Friday evening we closed the windows using a new copper rings (last one we have, Ronic placed a new order).
- The pump was turned on by Bruno and Eric yesterday afternoon. The current vacuum level is 6-7*10^-6 mbar
the pre and the turbo pimps are on so still too noisy to work, we have access all day tomorrow.
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CW FP Cavit lock , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics  
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Yesterday morning we locked the cavity on a strange mode in the cavity (we call it mode, but not sure what it is ??)
we also managed to lock on a higher order mode 02
we get an estimated 30% coupling (expected value), and note that we have not installed a telescope yet.
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Today, we prepared lenses for a telescope for the CW laser injection into the cavity, yet to be installed
Image of the transmission at P4 attached, an estimation of the beam size of the mode see is ~ 5.5 mm
The vacuum in the 2 optical cavities is decreasing but slowly. today it is 2.6 - 2.4 * 10^-7 mbar
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Last week, with Ronic and Victor we aligned the cavity using CW laser (Koheras)
- we have also installed 4 mirrors in the cavity with the best theoretical qualities (serial number and images included)
- The Plan ULE mirror P4 thickness was not compatible with the piezoelectric mount. We had to install a metal spacer behind the mirror to be able to fix it. the metal spacers in from ThorLabs made from INOX, It is 1 inch diameter (25.4 mm), we drilled a hole in the middle of 15 mm in the Workshop in bat 200. Then cleaned it using an ultrasound bath in pure water, using a small Ultrasound bath machine in Maverics platform Vide and Surfaces next to ThomX eglo.
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- This gives some difficulties in imaging the transmission at P4. To help with the imaging, we used the plastic #D printed irises that Yann made long time ago
- we took images of the mode inside the cavity at P4 transmission.
- We also observed some oxidization on the metal bars of the controllers, more on the side of S2 and P4. we are yet to test the motion of the motors in the z-axis.
- Friday evening we closed the windows using a new copper rings (last one we have, Ronic placed a new order).
- The pump was turned on by Bruno and Eric yesterday afternoon. The current vacuum level is 6-7*10^-6 mbar
the pre and the turbo pimps are on so still too noisy to work, we have access all day tomorrow.
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CW FP Cavit lock , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning with Daniele and Viktor,
- we confirmed the "potato" mode was well centered on the injected beam and was not due to some misalignment of the injected beam compared to the cavity axis.
we look at the reflected beam during a lock. we can see the direct reflected beam superposed with the cavity mode (cf attached image).
- then we assumed the "potato" mode problem could come from the too short distance between spherical mirrors which introduces ellipticity and finally can lead to some instability.
we manage to move further spherical mirrors S2 and S3 by moving them from 1 350 000 to 800 000 steps.
=> we increased the distance by 2x 550 000 steps (with 6µm for 1000 steps) => we increased the distance between spherical mirrors by 6.6 mm
the new mode shrinked a lot and at the end was spherical at 73%.
the mode size is now about 4400 x 6000 µm but with the major and minor axis still at 45° !
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Yesterday morning we locked the cavity on a strange mode in the cavity (we call it mode, but not sure what it is ??)
we also managed to lock on a higher order mode 02
we get an estimated 30% coupling (expected value), and note that we have not installed a telescope yet.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today, we prepared lenses for a telescope for the CW laser injection into the cavity, yet to be installed
Image of the transmission at P4 attached, an estimation of the beam size of the mode see is ~ 5.5 mm
The vacuum in the 2 optical cavities is decreasing but slowly. today it is 2.6 - 2.4 * 10^-7 mbar
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Last week, with Ronic and Victor we aligned the cavity using CW laser (Koheras)
- we have also installed 4 mirrors in the cavity with the best theoretical qualities (serial number and images included)
- The Plan ULE mirror P4 thickness was not compatible with the piezoelectric mount. We had to install a metal spacer behind the mirror to be able to fix it. the metal spacers in from ThorLabs made from INOX, It is 1 inch diameter (25.4 mm), we drilled a hole in the middle of 15 mm in the Workshop in bat 200. Then cleaned it using an ultrasound bath in pure water, using a small Ultrasound bath machine in Maverics platform Vide and Surfaces next to ThomX eglo.
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- This gives some difficulties in imaging the transmission at P4. To help with the imaging, we used the plastic #D printed irises that Yann made long time ago
- we took images of the mode inside the cavity at P4 transmission.
- We also observed some oxidization on the metal bars of the controllers, more on the side of S2 and P4. we are yet to test the motion of the motors in the z-axis.
- Friday evening we closed the windows using a new copper rings (last one we have, Ronic placed a new order).
- The pump was turned on by Bruno and Eric yesterday afternoon. The current vacuum level is 6-7*10^-6 mbar
the pre and the turbo pimps are on so still too noisy to work, we have access all day tomorrow.
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FP Finesse measurement using CW, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics  
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This morning, with Ronic and Daniele, we locked the cavity again (The lock was relatively easy and stable during the reading of the finesse)
We took 2 reading of finesse
1st : @ 33.2808 MHz (what the cavity length was at) : Finesse = 27 024
2nd : @ 33.3382 MHz (adjusted to match the pulsed laser) : Finesse = 30 433
The difference between the 2 is the FSR, during the change we also did some alignment to counter the reduced transmitted power.
We took an image of the beam profile before and after changing FSR and there was ~ 70 um change in the beam position on the Horizontal axis of the beam.
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This morning with Daniele and Viktor,
- we confirmed the "potato" mode was well centered on the injected beam and was not due to some misalignment of the injected beam compared to the cavity axis.
we look at the reflected beam during a lock. we can see the direct reflected beam superposed with the cavity mode (cf attached image).
- then we assumed the "potato" mode problem could come from the too short distance between spherical mirrors which introduces ellipticity and finally can lead to some instability.
we manage to move further spherical mirrors S2 and S3 by moving them from 1 350 000 to 800 000 steps.
=> we increased the distance by 2x 550 000 steps (with 6µm for 1000 steps) => we increased the distance between spherical mirrors by 6.6 mm
the new mode shrinked a lot and at the end was spherical at 73%.
the mode size is now about 4400 x 6000 µm but with the major and minor axis still at 45° !
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Yesterday morning we locked the cavity on a strange mode in the cavity (we call it mode, but not sure what it is ??)
we also managed to lock on a higher order mode 02
we get an estimated 30% coupling (expected value), and note that we have not installed a telescope yet.
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Today, we prepared lenses for a telescope for the CW laser injection into the cavity, yet to be installed
Image of the transmission at P4 attached, an estimation of the beam size of the mode see is ~ 5.5 mm
The vacuum in the 2 optical cavities is decreasing but slowly. today it is 2.6 - 2.4 * 10^-7 mbar
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Last week, with Ronic and Victor we aligned the cavity using CW laser (Koheras)
- we have also installed 4 mirrors in the cavity with the best theoretical qualities (serial number and images included)
- The Plan ULE mirror P4 thickness was not compatible with the piezoelectric mount. We had to install a metal spacer behind the mirror to be able to fix it. the metal spacers in from ThorLabs made from INOX, It is 1 inch diameter (25.4 mm), we drilled a hole in the middle of 15 mm in the Workshop in bat 200. Then cleaned it using an ultrasound bath in pure water, using a small Ultrasound bath machine in Maverics platform Vide and Surfaces next to ThomX eglo.
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- This gives some difficulties in imaging the transmission at P4. To help with the imaging, we used the plastic #D printed irises that Yann made long time ago
- we took images of the mode inside the cavity at P4 transmission.
- We also observed some oxidization on the metal bars of the controllers, more on the side of S2 and P4. we are yet to test the motion of the motors in the z-axis.
- Friday evening we closed the windows using a new copper rings (last one we have, Ronic placed a new order).
- The pump was turned on by Bruno and Eric yesterday afternoon. The current vacuum level is 6-7*10^-6 mbar
the pre and the turbo pimps are on so still too noisy to work, we have access all day tomorrow.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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Today with Ronic
For the Temperature fluctuation :
- we checked the valves of the tubes bumping water into the chiller from ThomX main water supply, they were working Ok
- we have also done "auto-tuning" of the chiller
If the controlled temperature fluctuates constantly after reaching the target temperature, perform auto-tuning . Controller calculates optimum control PID and set automatically.
This function sets the values necessary for the control system such as PID (proportional band, integral time, derivative time and ratio of cooling/heating gain) automatically.
after there was no temperature fluctuation and it was ok.
we turned on the amplifier @ 40 % amplification ~ 18 W , the error of temperature on the alphanov software satrted after 10 - 15 min
Then we turned it on @ 20% amplification ~ 9W, it showed after 5 min.
For the Beam profile measurement, we have a 750 mm lens to measure the M^2 and the beam divergence (to be finished!!)
Also installed an iris close the path to cut the bump beam when doing the measurements.
We checked the shape at closer distance similar to the one done on Monday (where the fit was not so good ~ 88%) and it is better, reaching 93% of Gaussian beam fit with the iris (being careful not to cut the beam power).
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
|
this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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Yesterday, Guillaume Machinet and Vincent Clet from Alphanov came to fixe some issues with the laser amplifier:
- 1) they fixed the "rep. rate" measurement issue.
previously, the voltage range in which it was possible to detect the correct rep rate (33MHz) was very narrow ~ 50mV.
we had fixed this threshold at 1V but any small voltage variation, making the signal a bit lower than this threshold, was triggering an alarm and stopping the amplifier.
it was the reason we put this threshold at 0.7V but with a false rep rate measurement of 100MHz.
the origin of this problem was a saturation of the input signal photodiode, which magnify the pulse oscillations and produce false rep rate detection.
Guillaume put a 3dB optical filter after the tap measuring the ~ 5.9mW of input power => no more saturation on this photodiode.
the range for detecting the correct rep rate is now wider, between 0.3V and 0.7V, thus we put the threshold at 0.5V at which we measured properly ~33MHz
2) they also fixed the issue of the output power estimation on the "LAL" software.
previously, even with the amplifier @ 0%, this output power estimation was around 35W !
the issue was double :
- there is a real drift of the DC voltage, from ~50mV when Guillaume made the amplifier to ~200mV now, coming from their photodiode measuring this output power.
this drift is not really understood and could come from a DC current from the ThomX setup (induction ?) or from a “faulty” Alphanov photodiode board.
this voltage is reported on the PD_EXT2 window from the "Line2" of the "Alphanov" internal software.
- the file making a correspondence between the measured voltage of the photodiode and the estimated output power was not properly filled.
in particular, 35W was corresponding to 200mV on one line of this file, which explains why the "LAL" software was showing 35W when the DC offset was reaching 200mV without any output power.
then, we redid the calibration between output power % and photodiode voltage to take into account this DC voltage change and we changed the associated corresponding file :
Pout = 0.3W / Voltage = 0.2V / P% = 0%
etc...
then, we have put back the safety parameters, surveying the output power variations :
for P% > 20%, the software checks that the voltage variations are not changing by 30% for more than 10 consecutive measurements.
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information about the Watchdog values from the "Alphanov" internal software.
the FPGA on the controller board reads the input signal data every ~3ns (330MHz).
then, it is able to check if a signal is present every 30ns (33MHz).
the watchdog values are : min = 20ns and max = 200ns.
above and below these values, the watchdog alarm is triggered and the amplifier stops.
*******************************************************************************************************************************
information about input power check:
the photodiode signal is integrated in a capacitor with a long decay time (at the 'ms' scale ?)
then, at each pulse, the signal increases and the software measures how long it takes to reach 1V => let's say ~1.5µs.
if the input power drops, it will take a longer time to reach 1V.
we put a threshold at ~3µs => if it is above, the input power dropped too much and the amplifier stops.
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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This morning with Victor we took a reading of the beam profile using a 400 mm lens at 70 % and 100 % amplification.
Will process the data and add after
Note : after an hour and half of amplifier on at 70% we increased the power to 100%, and after ~ 10 minutes the amplifier turned off and showed an error on the software called MMD3
and an error of the power mentioning " Le laser a été arrêté parce que sa puissance est trop éloignée de la puissance nominale"
"The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power"
after that, the amplifier worked in varying intervals until it switched off because of the previously mentioned error.
solution could be related to the configuration file values ??????
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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this morning with Manar,
we checked the Alphanov amplifier issue : "The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power".
the photodiode voltage measuring the output power has drifted again and then, the estimated output power was wrong, triggering an alarm issue.
I changed the "calibration" file to fix the issue : see the attached file
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This morning with Victor we took a reading of the beam profile using a 400 mm lens at 70 % and 100 % amplification.
Will process the data and add after
Note : after an hour and half of amplifier on at 70% we increased the power to 100%, and after ~ 10 minutes the amplifier turned off and showed an error on the software called MMD3
and an error of the power mentioning " Le laser a été arrêté parce que sa puissance est trop éloignée de la puissance nominale"
"The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power"
after that, the amplifier worked in varying intervals until it switched off because of the previously mentioned error.
solution could be related to the configuration file values ??????
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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We took reading of the beam profile of the amplifier without a lens @ 30 cm from the 2nd wedge for amplification percentages
20-30-40-50-60-70-80-90-100 % another additional 3 readings will be taken at different locations for all amplification percentages.
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this morning with Manar,
we checked the Alphanov amplifier issue : "The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power".
the photodiode voltage measuring the output power has drifted again and then, the estimated output power was wrong, triggering an alarm issue.
I changed the "calibration" file to fix the issue : see the attached file
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Victor we took a reading of the beam profile using a 400 mm lens at 70 % and 100 % amplification.
Will process the data and add after
Note : after an hour and half of amplifier on at 70% we increased the power to 100%, and after ~ 10 minutes the amplifier turned off and showed an error on the software called MMD3
and an error of the power mentioning " Le laser a été arrêté parce que sa puissance est trop éloignée de la puissance nominale"
"The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power"
after that, the amplifier worked in varying intervals until it switched off because of the previously mentioned error.
solution could be related to the configuration file values ??????
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | software
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due to several "case temperature" issues, I change the "Max case temperature" in the "general config" of the "Alphanov Software" from 50°C to 55°C.
=> validated by Alphanov.
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We took reading of the beam profile of the amplifier without a lens @ 30 cm from the 2nd wedge for amplification percentages
20-30-40-50-60-70-80-90-100 % another additional 3 readings will be taken at different locations for all amplification percentages.
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this morning with Manar,
we checked the Alphanov amplifier issue : "The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power".
the photodiode voltage measuring the output power has drifted again and then, the estimated output power was wrong, triggering an alarm issue.
I changed the "calibration" file to fix the issue : see the attached file
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This morning with Victor we took a reading of the beam profile using a 400 mm lens at 70 % and 100 % amplification.
Will process the data and add after
Note : after an hour and half of amplifier on at 70% we increased the power to 100%, and after ~ 10 minutes the amplifier turned off and showed an error on the software called MMD3
and an error of the power mentioning " Le laser a été arrêté parce que sa puissance est trop éloignée de la puissance nominale"
"The laser has been stopped because its power is too far from the nominal power"
after that, the amplifier worked in varying intervals until it switched off because of the previously mentioned error.
solution could be related to the configuration file values ??????
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On Monday 20th of February, Daniele and Viktor took some beam profile measurement data @ 50% of power amplification.
data and analysis can be found in the attached file.
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This morning with Daniele, we did a second measurement of the beam profile using a different lens of focal 400 mm.
at a power amplification of 20%
the amplifier stayed on for around one hour and a half with no errors.
tomorrow will attemt to do one at higher amplification percentage.
data will be added after processing.
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This morning,
- with the "Alphanov" software => Central panel => "system" button => Watchdog "Period Max" was at 100ns and has been set to 200ns.
(Alphanov told me to change the value from 50ns to 100ns but it was already at 100ns, then I set it to 200ns).
=> to be checked with Alphanov : what is the meaning of this parameter.
- it seems the watchdog alarm is related to the "PD_IN" parameter value of the "LAL" software (5.5mW is OK, but 5.2mW triggers the alarm).
my understanding is the Threshold Voltage, which detects the input signal to measure the repetition rate, could be at a too high level... even very close to the max level of the signal.
then if the input decreases a little bit, the signal goes below this Threshold Voltage => the software does not detect a signal any more => it triggers the watchdog alarm and the amplifier stops
(which stops also the preamplifier, related to the PD_CRI of the "Alphanov" software which goes to ~0W. PD_Preamp2 is a copy of PD_CRI but in the "LAL" software).
then, I changed back the Threshold Voltage from 0.96V (to detect properly 33MHz rep rate) to 0.7V which is close to the original value (0.67V) but for which the software detects ~100MHz rep. rate !
with this Threshold level, I did a test by detuning very slightly the input power by unscrewing a little bit the fiber-fiber coupler => PD_IN = 4.9mW => no alarm triggered !
then I screwed back the coupler => PD_IN = 5.6mW.
I did a power test with 3rd stage of the amplifier at 20% during 15 minutes => no alarm.
conclusion : there is an issue with the rep rate detection.
at 33MHz, one needs to put the threshold at the limit of the signal which fires an alarm if the signal decreased a little bit.
by lowering the threshold => no more alarm (I hope) but a wrong rep rate value !
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With Daniele after, we took a readings of the beam with a lens of 750 mm.
From the observed data, we can state that the beam is not completely Gaussian M2 > 1, due to the variation of the ellipticity of the beam along the focused path
readings have been saved and will be added after processing them.
Also adding to the previous comment about the error, after closing the bunker and starting the measurement we did not have issue for around 20 min then the same error appeared (alarm triggered by Watchdog) it shows when the input average power detected by the software was around 5.474 mW , I did a reset of the software then turned the amplifier on and the reading is 5.515mW it works for about 2 minutes (enough to take 2 readings) then it switches off. In addition, there was a drop in the power reading on the PD_preamp2 (which seems related to watchdog issue) we had to do this many times in order to finish taking the readings .
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we have had this new issue (watchdog alarm switching off the amplifier) for several days.
Alphanov mentionned it could come from the input oscillator stability (modelock loss for example).
Today,
- I tried to start the amplifier at 0% but it ended immediately in a "watchdog alarm" which stopped the amplifier
the input average power detected by the software was around 5.2mW, far above the 2mW needed by the amplifier.
- I checked the 33MHz oscillator at the output of the fiber connected to the Shafter-Kirchhoff fiber coupler with the Labbuddy fiber photodiode and a scope.
see the picture below : the peak are clean and at 33MHz... then, the Onefive oscillator is not faulty.
- after plugging back the fiber to the amplifier input, the input average power detected by the software increased a bit around 5.5 - 5.6mW.
I tried to start again the amplifier at 0% and now, it worked without any alarm !!!
then, the origin of the "watchdog alarm" was maybe the threshold on this input power.
Then, I launched the "Alphanov" software and changed again the "threshold level", previously set at 1V (see previous post below), to 0.96V !
with this threshold level, the Alphanov software detects at the beginning a frequency of 66MHz and then decreases slowly to 33MHz => to be understood.
it should allow also more room before triggering again the "watchdog alarm" if the input average power decreases a bit => to be confirmed by Alphanov.
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the laser amplifier worked for some days but it ended to a "watchdog" alarm which switches off the amplifier... investigation is ongoing
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Ronic on Friday operated the Amplifier from the Alphanov software, switched it off then turned on the LAL software,
and it worked for 40 min without issues or error appearing,
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this morning with Manar,
- we fixed the chiller problem (+/-2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we opened and closed several times the water valve of the primary circuit to remove air bubles => no effect on the temperature variations.
we put the chiller in "Auto-Tuning" (AT) mode, then pressed the "AT" key => the chiller tune its PID parameters to optimize its temperature stabilization => no more fluctuations (+/-0.2°C fluctuation around the set temperature value = 25°C).
we had anyway a "temperature case" alarm from the Alphanov software at P=40%*Pmax, which stops the amplifier.
we put the chiller it AT mode again but with some power in the amplifier => no difference, the temperature regulation seems very good now, but we still have some "temperature case" alarms... => contact Alphanov for that.
- we changed the mount of the 2nd wedge by a kinematic mount to help for the alignment and we added an iris in the path.
now the optical path seems OK to make the beam profile measurement easily.
as we have still amplifier stops due to "temperature case" alarm, even at low power (P=20%*Pmax), we stopped the measurements => see Manar logbook post.
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this morning with Manar,
- we checked first the chiller problem.
the fluctations of +/-2° around 25°C are still there.
I discussed with Jean-Noel Cayla about the possible problem of the "dirty" water in the primary circuit.
he told me that the water goes through 3 "effective" filters, then the water should not be too dirty in the primary circuit even if one uses "common water" to fill it.
he told me also that the water temperature could be a bit higher than before, around 22°C, and that could prevent a good thermal exchange with the secundary circuit (the one of the amplifier).
=> the resistivity is about 7Mohmhs.
we had again a "case temperature alarm" from the Alphanov Software, after 1h of work @ 20%
this stopped the amplifier, we did not restart it.
- we measured the beam path with the wedges :
compressor box output to mirror : 17cm
mirror to 1s wedge : 24 cm
1st wedge to 2nd wedge : 24.5 cm
2nd wedge to lift bottom mirror : 136 cm
lift bottom mirror to top mirror : 14 cm
lift top mirror to beam profiler (x=0) : 7 cm
- we measured the beam profile at 3 positions with amplifier @ 20% + 2 wedges :
the power is ~ 70 µW
we made the measurements at x=0, x=60 cm, x=120cm
after that, we had the Alphanov amplifier "temperature case incident" and we stopped the measurements.
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yesterday morning with Manar,
1) we fixed the threshold level of the laser input signal which makes the measurement of the repetition rate.
(if the rep rate is not measured properly, the amplifier safety interlock stops immediately the amplification).
we followed a tutorial from Guillaume Machinet.
when you start the Alphanov control software, 4 panels pops up : central control, 2nd stage amplifier, and 2 panels for controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier.
!!! Warning !!! ..... if you switch ON the amplifier using the central control panel, the amplifier starts immediately AT FULL POWER..... !!! Warning !!!
it is not mentionned in the tutorial document.
to prevent this problem, you first need to switch "Laser OFF" on the 2 panels controlling the pumps of the 3rd stage amplifier and let "Laser ON" only on the panel controlling the 2nd stage.
after starting the amplifier, we tried to find the median value of the threshold to get ~33MHz instead of 100MHz measured previously.
the initial voltage threshold on the photodiode measuring the rep rate was 0.4V which leads to get 100MHz.
first, we changed step by step the threshold to reach 0.87V => one gets 33MHz.
we tried the find the maximum threshold but once the level is above the signal maximum value, it triggers an alarm and stops immediately the amplifier.
then, one needs to restart completely the software which can be tedious due to connections/alarms issues.
finaly, we found out that the low and high level thresholds to get 33MHz were not reproductible at each start of the amplifier... :-(
then, we put the threshold at 1V following the turial procedure which seems to work.
2) we installed the optical scheme to make the beam profile measurement : see attached image
we used the HR mirror close to the amplifier output (as putting a wedge at that place is not convenient if you want to properly dump the transmission and reflections).
and then, we placed 2 wedges, using the front reflection to get low power beam profile.
the Thorlabs LB2 has been used to dump the transmission of the first wedge, it can handle 25kW/cm² and 25J/cm².
we used black aluminium screens to dump the secondary beams.
we measured after the 2 wedges :
amplifier at 20% => 71µW
amplifier at 30% => 139µW
amplifier at 40% => 200µW
it has to be compared with the amplifier power :
amplifier at 20% => 8.7 W
amplifier at 30% => 17 W
amplifier at 40% => 26 W
which leads to a reflection coefficient of the wedge of 0.28%.
=> OK, as one uses PS811-B Thorlabs 4° wedges with B coating.
with B coating, the reflectivity given by the manufacturer is around 0.3% @ 1030nm.
unfortunately, we had a "case temperature alarm" coming from the Alphanov software when we reached 40% for the amplification level.
this alarm stopped immediately the amplifier.
we saw that the chiller was in warning state too and the "present temperature PV" was not stable at all, flutuating by 3-4 degrees after the amplifier has been turned off...
we restarted several times the chiller to see if the problem disapears but it was still there ! => to be investiguated !
PS : we changed the USB cable between the amplifier controler and the PC to try to fix the several "connexion lost" problems but it didn't help...
PS2 : after discussing with Sophie Chance and Marie Jacquet, ThomX suffered a water circuit leakage on Monday:
the full circuit has been emptied and they had to remplace the water by some common water and not demineralized water....
it can be related to the chilller issue observed yesterday !
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today with Manar, we brought everything to make the profile measurement.
the chiller was in error because of the water level : we filled it in.
! warning ! there is no alarm signal, only a message on the screen.
we checked the incoming power measured by the software : 5.5 mW => OK
and we measured the output power (with pump) for :
0% => ~ 300 mW
10% => ~900 mW
20% => 8.65 W
30% => 17W
=> same as before.
the first HR mirror at the output of the amplifier was slightly scratched => we replaced it.
for sake of simplicity, we plan to use first a HR mirror and then 2x wedges for the profile measurement => to be checked next time.
we have to remove secundary beam reflections, then wedges are easier to use than AR/AR mirrors (as the 2 reflected beams are parallele).
at full power, the output power is ~ 70W
after 1st wedge : 2.8W
after 2nd wedge : 112 mW => the power should be low enough to use absorptive filters in front of the beam profiler.
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Power shut down on Saturday the 18th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about utilities
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All the equipments have been switched off on Friday 17th due to a power shut down on Saturday 18th :
CW and Onefive oscillators, computers, laser amplifier, cavity mirror motors, chiller, etc... |
Power shut down on Saturday the 18th, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about utilities
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Today, I restarted all the equipements :
Chiller : ok, temperature converged quickly to the set temperature : 25°C
Cavity mirrors motors controller : I had to configure the general network as 192.168.xxx.xxx in order to operate the software designed by Didier Jehanno
Computer : ok, now, it IP address is 192.168.1.1
Laser amplifier controller : I had a LOT of issues in restarting the LAL software. I had to restart several times the amplifier controller in order to access it by software. I quickly check the power increase to 50% after it has been correctly seeded
CW oscillator : ok, Koheras restarted without any issue.
OneFive oscillator : the power ON was ok but it did not modelock. I tried several gently knocks on the case but without success (one clearly see the effect on the scope, the oscillator "tries" to modelock).
fortunately, after about 1h, the oscillator modelocked alone (check with Buddy fiber photodiode + scope).... the power is the same as before. the Alphanov software measures 5.4mW (it was 5.5 mW the 2/1/2023)
Smaract controller for OneFive : ok, I changed its IP address to 192.168.1.10. I tested the PC control in moving forth and back the "CEP" motor by 1mm... the OneFive was still modelocked.
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All the equipments have been switched off on Friday 17th due to a power shut down on Saturday 18th :
CW and Onefive oscillators, computers, laser amplifier, cavity mirror motors, chiller, etc...
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Yesterday with Aurélien, we try to make the laser modelock using the Smaract translation stages embedded inside the laser head.
unfortunately, we got some errors when we try to do the "calibration" and "reference" of both Smaract stages !
we contacted by email M. Nicoul to help us on this topic
Today, we removed the 33MHz and its controller and motors controller from the casemate to install it in the PLIC room.
with the help of M. Nicoul, we did a first check of the PZT capacitance of each stage (~ 60nF)
for channel 0 (Frep), the measured capacitance is 53nF on the laser head
for channel 2 (CEP), the measured capacitance is 63nF on the laser head
between pins 1 and 9 of the DB9 connector.
M. Nicoul says that these values are compatible with the reference values ~ 60nF, then the PZT translation stages are OK.
Then, the controler is maybe damaged.
One has to find a new one to test the stages.
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Today, we used an "ELI-NP" Smaract controller made with these 2 references :
MCS-3CC-ETH-TAB (SN 2271) => main controller
MCS-3S-EP-SDS15-TAB (SN 2472) => sensor module
with the ethernet parameters:
IP : 10.0.52.226
MASK: 255.255.255.0
GW : 10.0.52.01
PORT : 5001
one has to configure the device into PTC or MCS software as :
network:10.0.52.226:5001
then, one can access the Smaract controller and move both Frep and CEP stages.
we succeded to make the laser modelock again ! :-)
the output power is about 42mW !
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Yesterday with Aurélien, we try to make the laser modelock using the Smaract translation stages embedded inside the laser head.
unfortunately, we got some errors when we try to do the "calibration" and "reference" of both Smaract stages !
we contacted by email M. Nicoul to help us on this topic
Today, we removed the 33MHz and its controller and motors controller from the casemate to install it in the PLIC room.
with the help of M. Nicoul, we did a first check of the PZT capacitance of each stage (~ 60nF)
for channel 0 (Frep), the measured capacitance is 53nF on the laser head
for channel 2 (CEP), the measured capacitance is 63nF on the laser head
between pins 1 and 9 of the DB9 connector.
M. Nicoul says that these values are compatible with the reference values ~ 60nF, then the PZT translation stages are OK.
Then, the controler is maybe damaged.
One has to find a new one to test the stages.
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Yesterday, we put back the 33MHz oscillator into the casemate with the new Smaract controller.
after switching ON the laser controller, we saw some power at the output but we have to check if the laser is modelock or not.
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Today, we used an "ELI-NP" Smaract controller made with these 2 references :
MCS-3CC-ETH-TAB (SN 2271) => main controller
MCS-3S-EP-SDS15-TAB (SN 2472) => sensor module
with the ethernet parameters:
IP : 10.0.52.226
MASK: 255.255.255.0
GW : 10.0.52.01
PORT : 5001
one has to configure the device into PTC or MCS software as :
network:10.0.52.226:5001
then, one can access the Smaract controller and move both Frep and CEP stages.
we succeded to make the laser modelock again ! :-)
the output power is about 42mW !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Yesterday with Aurélien, we try to make the laser modelock using the Smaract translation stages embedded inside the laser head.
unfortunately, we got some errors when we try to do the "calibration" and "reference" of both Smaract stages !
we contacted by email M. Nicoul to help us on this topic
Today, we removed the 33MHz and its controller and motors controller from the casemate to install it in the PLIC room.
with the help of M. Nicoul, we did a first check of the PZT capacitance of each stage (~ 60nF)
for channel 0 (Frep), the measured capacitance is 53nF on the laser head
for channel 2 (CEP), the measured capacitance is 63nF on the laser head
between pins 1 and 9 of the DB9 connector.
M. Nicoul says that these values are compatible with the reference values ~ 60nF, then the PZT translation stages are OK.
Then, the controler is maybe damaged.
One has to find a new one to test the stages.
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Today, we succeded to make the laser modelock.
the ouptut power is above 35mW (the powermeter was saturated)
here is a screenshot of the signal on the scope.
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Yesterday, we put back the 33MHz oscillator into the casemate with the new Smaract controller.
after switching ON the laser controller, we saw some power at the output but we have to check if the laser is modelock or not.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, we used an "ELI-NP" Smaract controller made with these 2 references :
MCS-3CC-ETH-TAB (SN 2271) => main controller
MCS-3S-EP-SDS15-TAB (SN 2472) => sensor module
with the ethernet parameters:
IP : 10.0.52.226
MASK: 255.255.255.0
GW : 10.0.52.01
PORT : 5001
one has to configure the device into PTC or MCS software as :
network:10.0.52.226:5001
then, one can access the Smaract controller and move both Frep and CEP stages.
we succeded to make the laser modelock again ! :-)
the output power is about 42mW !
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Yesterday with Aurélien, we try to make the laser modelock using the Smaract translation stages embedded inside the laser head.
unfortunately, we got some errors when we try to do the "calibration" and "reference" of both Smaract stages !
we contacted by email M. Nicoul to help us on this topic
Today, we removed the 33MHz and its controller and motors controller from the casemate to install it in the PLIC room.
with the help of M. Nicoul, we did a first check of the PZT capacitance of each stage (~ 60nF)
for channel 0 (Frep), the measured capacitance is 53nF on the laser head
for channel 2 (CEP), the measured capacitance is 63nF on the laser head
between pins 1 and 9 of the DB9 connector.
M. Nicoul says that these values are compatible with the reference values ~ 60nF, then the PZT translation stages are OK.
Then, the controler is maybe damaged.
One has to find a new one to test the stages.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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33MHz laser SN2439 back to Orsay, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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As the general local network for the FP-cavity devices is 192.168.xxx.xxx, I changed the IP adress of the smaract laser motors (Frep and CEP) controller.
For that, I used the embedded web server as described in the manual in attached file.
the new adresses are :
IP : 192.168.1.10
Gateaway : 192.168.1.1
Subnet : 255.255.255.0
Port : 5000
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Today, we succeded to make the laser modelock.
the ouptut power is above 35mW (the powermeter was saturated)
here is a screenshot of the signal on the scope.
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Yesterday, we put back the 33MHz oscillator into the casemate with the new Smaract controller.
after switching ON the laser controller, we saw some power at the output but we have to check if the laser is modelock or not.
| Ronic Chiche wrote: |
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Today, we used an "ELI-NP" Smaract controller made with these 2 references :
MCS-3CC-ETH-TAB (SN 2271) => main controller
MCS-3S-EP-SDS15-TAB (SN 2472) => sensor module
with the ethernet parameters:
IP : 10.0.52.226
MASK: 255.255.255.0
GW : 10.0.52.01
PORT : 5001
one has to configure the device into PTC or MCS software as :
network:10.0.52.226:5001
then, one can access the Smaract controller and move both Frep and CEP stages.
we succeded to make the laser modelock again ! :-)
the output power is about 42mW !
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Yesterday with Aurélien, we try to make the laser modelock using the Smaract translation stages embedded inside the laser head.
unfortunately, we got some errors when we try to do the "calibration" and "reference" of both Smaract stages !
we contacted by email M. Nicoul to help us on this topic
Today, we removed the 33MHz and its controller and motors controller from the casemate to install it in the PLIC room.
with the help of M. Nicoul, we did a first check of the PZT capacitance of each stage (~ 60nF)
for channel 0 (Frep), the measured capacitance is 53nF on the laser head
for channel 2 (CEP), the measured capacitance is 63nF on the laser head
between pins 1 and 9 of the DB9 connector.
M. Nicoul says that these values are compatible with the reference values ~ 60nF, then the PZT translation stages are OK.
Then, the controler is maybe damaged.
One has to find a new one to test the stages.
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This morning, with Aurélien and Daniele, we did the swap between the 33MHz and 133MHz oscillators.
now, the 33MHz oscillator is on ThomX inside the casemate.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it has been screwed on the metal plate, roughly aligned with the Alphanov "fiber injection and strecher" box.
tomorrow, we will do the fine alignment with this box and check if the laser is properly modelocking.
the 133MHz oscillator is back in the PLIC optical room.
it has been restarted and some laser is going out.
it seems there are no pulses at the output... it seems we have to trigger the modelock.
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On the 8th of July, the SN2439 33MHz laser was returned from NKT to our lab, being repaired.
it stayed all the weekend to warm up in the optical room and has been turned on on Monday.
the mode-locking was not working (28mW output power and a CW line for the optical spectrum), thus I "kicked" the laser with 100µm moves on the motors.
now, the laser is mode-locked with 42mW output power and the expected optical spectrum.
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New Mirrors from LMA _ Images, posted by Manar Amer at Optical room about lasers and optics   
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Today we tested a mirror from one patch
image is for the front face of the mirror
PowerPoint has more details about the images
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Amplifier Beam Profile over time , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning, with Ronic, we opened the compressor box to observe if there is any misalignment of the mounts or the CVBG's
a comparison slide between the Beam Profile over time and measurements we have taken, is included.
we noticed today that the images need a rotation, and I took the assumption we did not rotate last year and did the rotation of the previous images.
Comparing the last two images, they look slightly similar. but the one from last year is much better than the current one
(remembering it was taken, when we aligned the CVBG's and the chiller was @23, now the temperature is @25 for the chiller)
The image we took today is also better than the one from yesterday.
(we take the image when the compressor box is open)
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Amplifier Beam Profile over time , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 10x
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This morning we took data of the beam profile at 4 different points to see the evolution of
- the beam shape
- divergence
over distance for all amplification percentages
Data plotted for the distance vs radius for all and divergence in rad is extracted and plotted as a variation of amplification power.
Added is the Excel file with all the details and the PowerPoint for referance
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This morning, with Ronic, we opened the compressor box to observe if there is any misalignment of the mounts or the CVBG's
a comparison slide between the Beam Profile over time and measurements we have taken, is included.
we noticed today that the images need a rotation, and I took the assumption we did not rotate last year and did the rotation of the previous images.
Comparing the last two images, they look slightly similar. but the one from last year is much better than the current one
(remembering it was taken, when we aligned the CVBG's and the chiller was @23, now the temperature is @25 for the chiller)
The image we took today is also better than the one from yesterday.
(we take the image when the compressor box is open)
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Amplifier Beam Profile over time , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Information about today's work is added to logBook !!
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This morning we took data of the beam profile at 4 different points to see the evolution of
- the beam shape
- divergence
over distance for all amplification percentages
Data plotted for the distance vs radius for all and divergence in rad is extracted and plotted as a variation of amplification power.
Added is the Excel file with all the details and the PowerPoint for referance
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This morning, with Ronic, we opened the compressor box to observe if there is any misalignment of the mounts or the CVBG's
a comparison slide between the Beam Profile over time and measurements we have taken, is included.
we noticed today that the images need a rotation, and I took the assumption we did not rotate last year and did the rotation of the previous images.
Comparing the last two images, they look slightly similar. but the one from last year is much better than the current one
(remembering it was taken, when we aligned the CVBG's and the chiller was @23, now the temperature is @25 for the chiller)
The image we took today is also better than the one from yesterday.
(we take the image when the compressor box is open)
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CW laser installation and cleaning, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Manar, in order to prepare the installation of the news FP cavity mirrors,
- we installed the Koheras below the optical table
- we put a fiber prolongator at the end of the Koheras fiber and we put a mounted collimator at the end of the fiber.
we added a mirror at 45° to inject the beam to injection axis of the table.
- as the beam was still slightly divergent, we added a 750mm lens ~20cm after the collimator to improve the beam collimation.
now the collimated beam is going approximatively through the middle all of the iris in the optical path.
we finished by ~2h of cleaning of the optical table and elements, which were very dirty.
it is still a bit dirty. see the attached file to get the numbers provided by the particle counter after the cleaning. |
CW laser installation and cleaning, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Ronic , in preparation for the mirror installation, we removed additional mechanics and cables from the table.
We organized and cleaned the permanently installed cables on the table away from the area of the cavity opening.
We opened the two top vents and left the shutters open to circulate clean air , (note the shutters surrounding the laser and amplifier are half closed for safety)
Note: before installing the mirrors, preferably the shutters should be opened a day before to have clean air in the surrounding of the cavity openings
and avoid any cleaning or air disturbance.
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This morning with Manar, in order to prepare the installation of the news FP cavity mirrors,
- we installed the Koheras below the optical table
- we put a fiber prolongator at the end of the Koheras fiber and we put a mounted collimator at the end of the fiber.
we added a mirror at 45° to inject the beam to injection axis of the table.
- as the beam was still slightly divergent, we added a 750mm lens ~20cm after the collimator to improve the beam collimation.
now the collimated beam is going approximatively through the middle all of the iris in the optical path.
we finished by ~2h of cleaning of the optical table and elements, which were very dirty.
it is still a bit dirty. see the attached file to get the numbers provided by the particle counter after the cleaning.
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Alphanov amplifier beam profile Data , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 8x
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Adding the schematic of the measurements.,
the 4° Beam Deviation, AR Coating ( B coating)
The 3 data points taken of the beam profile are fitted in Gaussian Beam with taking the beam waist at the output of the compressor box.
Background is subtracted for all data points, the fit is more than 90% for all points.
a reading was observed with distance less than 200 cm before the periscope and the fit starts to degrade
reason probably be related to the bump beam !!! To be investigated by placing an iris. |
Alphanov amplifier beam profile Data , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This Morning with Victor the amplifier was turned on @ 20% amplification (output ~ 9 W ) for approximately 3 hours and no error appeared.
I took data of the beam profile at different points without a lens after the 2 wedges
@ 0% (only pump beam), output ~ 300 mW (taken from previous data) , output after 2 wedges 2.2 uW
@ 20% amplification , output ~ 9 W (taken from previous data) , output after 2 wedges 58.6 uW
fit to be added after processing the Beam Profiles data files.
Data with the lens to be taken !!
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Adding the schematic of the measurements.,
the 4° Beam Deviation, AR Coating ( B coating)
The 3 data points taken of the beam profile are fitted in Gaussian Beam with taking the beam waist at the output of the compressor box.
Background is subtracted for all data points, the fit is more than 90% for all points.
a reading was observed with distance less than 200 cm before the periscope and the fit starts to degrade
reason probably be related to the bump beam !!! To be investigated by placing an iris.
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Amplifier output power , posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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The ouput power of the ThomX amplifier has been measured as a function of the 3rd stage pumps current (0A is 1st and 2nd stage turned on).
We measured the total power, the total power without the "donuts" pump signal dumped by an iris and the transmission of a dichroic mirror (for ref see image). |
Amplifier output power , posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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The ouput power of the ThomX amplifier has been measured as a function of the 3rd stage pumps current (0A is 1st and 2nd stage turned on).
We measured the total power, the total power without the "donuts" pump signal dumped by an iris and the transmission of a dichroic mirror (for ref see image).
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Amplifier output power , posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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We checked the Dichroic mirror we have : it is a DMSP1000 shortpass dichroic mirror as specified in this post.
The Arrow engraved on the edge of the mirror points on the AR surface !
not on the HR surface...
the AOI is 45°.
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The ouput power of the ThomX amplifier has been measured as a function of the 3rd stage pumps current (0A is 1st and 2nd stage turned on).
We measured the total power, the total power without the "donuts" pump signal dumped by an iris and the transmission of a dichroic mirror (for ref see image).
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mirrors removing, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning with Viktor, we opened the 2 vessels and removed the 4 FP-cavity mirrors.
all the mirrors have been put in plastic boxes with labels to indicate which mirror it is,
and with all the HR coatings face down.
the mirrors are in the PLIC room in the "THOMX MIRRORS" box. |
Vessels vacuum at ambiant pressure, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about vacuum
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Last Friday and this morning, with Bruno, we close the ring/cavity valves and put some dry air in the two vessels through a filter to avoid turbulences.
Now, the two vessels are at ambient pressure and ready for opening (to remove the mirrors).
One can let the ambient pressure in the vessels as long as we want, the ring/cavity valves have been chosen to be compatible with the high vacuum in the ring and the ambient pressure in the vessel for a long time.
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Alphanov amplifier compressor's CVBG thermal images, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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last Friday with Manar, we took some thermal images of the Alpnavov compressor box.
I post a small document to summarize some points :
- the 2 mirrors used to make the CVBG injection are polarized thin-film mirrors... thus sensitive to the beam polarization.
there is also a half-wave plate on the input path...
are we sure that the beam polarization is properly set with the Onefive laser injecting the amplifier?
(Alphanov used their own seeder).
- the CVBG temperature seems normal without too much difference between profiles and values.
- the 2 thin-film mirrors seem quite hot (45°) compared to the rest of the setup.
a basic calculation of power thermally radiated gives an absorbed power of around 55mW which is equivalent to about 500ppm of absorption.
is this estimation correct? could it be the confirmation of some misalignment that traps some power inside the mirror substrate?
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Alphanov amplifier compressor's CVBG thermal images, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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last Friday with Manar, we took some thermal images of the Alpnavov compressor box.
I post a small document to summarize some points :
- the 2 mirrors used to make the CVBG injection are polarized thin-film mirrors... thus sensitive to the beam polarization.
there is also a half-wave plate on the input path...
are we sure that the beam polarization is properly set with the Onefive laser injecting the amplifier ?
(Alphanov used their own seeder).
- the CVBG temperature seems normal without too much difference between profiles and values.
- the 2 thin-film mirrors seem quite hot (45°) compared to the rest of the setup.
a basic calculation about power thermally radiated gives an absorbed power of around 0.2W which is equivalent to more than 1000ppm of absorption.
is this estimation correct? could it be the confirmation of some misalignment that traps some power inside the mirror substrate?
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 8x
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 6x
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 9x
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics    
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Readings of the beam shape and fit at the output of the compressor
differance from previous reading is that here we used wedges instead of HR mirrors.
Similar to previous readings, the beam shape deforms and the Gaussian fit is bad after 50% amplification
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 6x
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Adding the readings 20% , 30% , 40% for output of amplifier after the compressor
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and fit at the output of the compressor
differance from previous reading is that here we used wedges instead of HR mirrors.
Similar to previous readings, the beam shape deforms and the Gaussian fit is bad after 50% amplification
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 12x
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This Morning, another reading was taken for the output of the amplifier after the compressor using 2 wedge mirrors.
In addition, a start of the calibration of a PulseCheck "Autocorrelator" to measure the pulse duration.
note, the pulsed laser used is OneFive 133.33 MHz
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the readings 20% , 30% , 40% for output of amplifier after the compressor
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and fit at the output of the compressor
differance from previous reading is that here we used wedges instead of HR mirrors.
Similar to previous readings, the beam shape deforms and the Gaussian fit is bad after 50% amplification
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 20x
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Victor, Ronic, Manar
Today was dedicated to the study of the CVBG, and it's effect on the beam profile
we opened the box containing the 2 CVBGs : The 2CVBG are glued from the bottom on a copper surface .
Using the beam viwer, the beam line inside the two CVBG is not at the exact center but not at the edges too and not hitting the boarders.
From the sides you see two lines, one is reflection on the metal.
To observe the effect of the first CVBG by itself, we blocked the second reflection into the 2nd CVBG.
By placing the D-shaped mirror just at the entrance of the 2nd CVBG (there was just enough space to put it)
Beam Profiler + OD 10E + OD 30E + OD(not known) placed at ~ 1 m from the output of compressor.
We see clearly a much better circular shape of the beam and a better Gaussian fit,
only above 90% where we see the fit percentage going down to ~ 86% and on just the Horizontal Axis.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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This Morning, another reading was taken for the output of the amplifier after the compressor using 2 wedge mirrors.
In addition, a start of the calibration of a PulseCheck "Autocorrelator" to measure the pulse duration.
note, the pulsed laser used is OneFive 133.33 MHz
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the readings 20% , 30% , 40% for output of amplifier after the compressor
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and fit at the output of the compressor
differance from previous reading is that here we used wedges instead of HR mirrors.
Similar to previous readings, the beam shape deforms and the Gaussian fit is bad after 50% amplification
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Profile, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 8x
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For better comparison ,
the measurements done previously with 2 CVBGs was done at ~ 30 cm and the one done on Friday was for 1 CVBG is at 1 m
so we did additional measurement for 2 CVBGs at 1 m, for 20 , 50 and 70 % amplification
we clearly see the similar deformation at high power.
Conclusion : the effect is most likely coming from the 2nd CVBG
At 70 % victor optimized the horizontal axis for the injection mirror into 2nd CVBG , we see an improvement in the Gaussian fit on Horizontal and vertical axis of ~ 2%
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Victor, Ronic, Manar
Today was dedicated to the study of the CVBG, and it's effect on the beam profile
we opened the box containing the 2 CVBGs : The 2CVBG are glued from the bottom on a copper surface .
Using the beam viwer, the beam line inside the two CVBG is not at the exact center but not at the edges too and not hitting the boarders.
From the sides you see two lines, one is reflection on the metal.
To observe the effect of the first CVBG by itself, we blocked the second reflection into the 2nd CVBG.
By placing the D-shaped mirror just at the entrance of the 2nd CVBG (there was just enough space to put it)
Beam Profiler + OD 10E + OD 30E + OD(not known) placed at ~ 1 m from the output of compressor.
We see clearly a much better circular shape of the beam and a better Gaussian fit,
only above 90% where we see the fit percentage going down to ~ 86% and on just the Horizontal Axis.
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This Morning, another reading was taken for the output of the amplifier after the compressor using 2 wedge mirrors.
In addition, a start of the calibration of a PulseCheck "Autocorrelator" to measure the pulse duration.
note, the pulsed laser used is OneFive 133.33 MHz
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Adding the readings 20% , 30% , 40% for output of amplifier after the compressor
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Readings of the beam shape and fit at the output of the compressor
differance from previous reading is that here we used wedges instead of HR mirrors.
Similar to previous readings, the beam shape deforms and the Gaussian fit is bad after 50% amplification
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Readings of the beam shape and horizontal (upper plot) and vertical (lower plot) axis fit at the direct output of the amplifier.
The beam shape relatively shaped like an egg.
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Today a second reading of the beam profile was done , with Victor ,Ronic, Aurlien and Manar
an additional set-up was made using two 4 deg wedges instead of High reflecting (HR) and Anti-reflecting (AR) mirrors.
Two reading were taken:
- at the output of the compressor with a NE30A filter on the beam profiler
- at the output of the amplifier with NE30A + NE10A filter on beam profiler
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Adding the fitted beam in 1D in Horizontal and vertical axis.
for 10% to 60%
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Today: Manar, Ronic and Aurlien started the study of the beam profile of the alphanov amplifier at high power.
The setup shown in the image shows how the power is reduced by using Anti-reflective mirrors,
pick up 1 : Anti-reflective coating on both sides , pick up 2 : Anti-reflective coating on one side and High reflectivity on the other
using this method, we avoid saturation and damage to the beam profiler from the high power amplified laser
in addition, an OD3 filter is placed in front of the beam profiler. and a reflective mirror is placed close to deflect the reflection from the mirror(pick up 1) second surface.
The beam observed is relatively well shaped and fitted up to 50% of amplification is where the shape starts to deform a little and is not well-fitted by a Gaussian. (image attached shows the fit for 60% amplification)
The cause is yet to be determined, as it could only be related to the reflections that occur from the mirrors (pick up 1 and pick up 2)
*** Note be always careful at High Power :)
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Pulse Duration, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The pulse duration from the amplifier compressor output will be measured using PulseCheck autocorelator
a first alignment of the device was done, continuation in the afternoon.
YouTube link attached of the general operation of pulse check < 5 min : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1pNHYySSYg |
Alphanov amplifier Beam Pulse Duration, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics  
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Measurement of the pulse was done at the end of the afternoon, Pulse Duration FWHM = 12.9 ps
After a long process of adjusting the alignment and angle of the crystal inside the device
The power input on the PulseCheck device should be above the sensitivity, in our case we had 1 mW input.
To reach it, we removed one of the wedge mirrors and used dielectric mirrors with an amplification of 20% ~ 25 W direct output power.
The input to the pulsecheck must be horizontally polarized, which is why we used a polarizing beam splitter (PBS).
For a better pulse shape, Victor adjusted the "beam distance" and "beam focus" nobs on the device.
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The pulse duration from the amplifier compressor output will be measured using PulseCheck autocorelator
a first alignment of the device was done, continuation in the afternoon.
YouTube link attached of the general operation of pulse check < 5 min : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1pNHYySSYg
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Alphanov amplifier Beam Pulse Duration, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Pulse Duration FWHM = 12.9 ps
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Measurement of the pulse was done at the end of the afternoon, Pulse Duration FWHM = 12.9 ps
After a long process of adjusting the alignment and angle of the crystal inside the device
The power input on the PulseCheck device should be above the sensitivity, in our case we had 1 mW input.
To reach it, we removed one of the wedge mirrors and used dielectric mirrors with an amplification of 20% ~ 25 W direct output power.
The input to the pulsecheck must be horizontally polarized, which is why we used a polarizing beam splitter (PBS).
For a better pulse shape, Victor adjusted the "beam distance" and "beam focus" nobs on the device.
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The pulse duration from the amplifier compressor output will be measured using PulseCheck autocorelator
a first alignment of the device was done, continuation in the afternoon.
YouTube link attached of the general operation of pulse check < 5 min : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1pNHYySSYg
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First hands on the Alphanov amplifier & software, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Aurélien, Manar, and I spent more than 2h trying to start the software communicating with the Alphanov amplifier controller.
each time, we had a problem with the software, asking to switch OFF and ON the controller before being able to switch the amplifier diodes ON.
we switched OFF and ON many times without any success.
in the end, Aurélien called Guillaume from Alphanov... and without changing anything, it worked... strange!
one possible problem could be the correct detection of Frep of the seed laser (OneFive).
as we didn't check the signal coming from the seed laser, it could be the reason... to be confirmed.
the present status for the controller is:
- the power connector (on the rear side) is ON
- the green relay (on the rear side) is ACTIVATED
- the key (on the front side) is OFF
- the emission button (on the front side) is OFF
the normal procedure to start the controller is:
- switch the front side key ON
- start the software (possible error msg asking to switch OFF and ON the power button: don't do that)
- switch the emission button on the front side (which is red) ON
- switch the preamplifier button ON
=> all the software LEDs should be green and the PD_PULSE window should indicate 133.33MHz
otherwise, try a RESET on the software and restart the procedure (and pray).
at the end of the day, we successfully switched ON the preamp and increased the Power adjustment around 20% to get something about 10W on the big PowerMeter placed at the output of the amplifier.
=> we need another day of practice to be more confident with the software!
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First hands on the Alphanov amplifier & software, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Additional information related to the injected power into the amplifier fibers.
power = 4.45 mW (as shown from the software)
the minimum to inject into amplifier is 2 mW
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Aurélien, Manar, and I spent more than 2h trying to start the software communicating with the Alphanov amplifier controller.
each time, we had a problem with the software, asking to switch OFF and ON the controller before being able to switch the amplifier diodes ON.
we switched OFF and ON many times without any success.
in the end, Aurélien called Guillaume from Alphanov... and without changing anything, it worked... strange!
one possible problem could be the correct detection of Frep of the seed laser (OneFive).
as we didn't check the signal coming from the seed laser, it could be the reason... to be confirmed.
the present status for the controller is:
- the power connector (on the rear side) is ON
- the green relay (on the rear side) is ACTIVATED
- the key (on the front side) is OFF
- the emission button (on the front side) is OFF
the normal procedure to start the controller is:
- switch the front side key ON
- start the software (possible error msg asking to switch OFF and ON the power button: don't do that)
- switch the emission button on the front side (which is red) ON
- switch the preamplifier button ON
=> all the software LEDs should be green and the PD_PULSE window should indicate 133.33MHz
otherwise, try a RESET on the software and restart the procedure (and pray).
at the end of the day, we successfully switched ON the preamp and increased the Power adjustment around 20% to get something about 10W on the big PowerMeter placed at the output of the amplifier.
=> we need another day of practice to be more confident with the software!
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First hands on the Alphanov amplifier & software, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Software Works well and is operational.
Just closing the log series!!!
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Additional information related to the injected power into the amplifier fibers.
power = 4.45 mW (as shown from the software)
the minimum to inject into amplifier is 2 mW
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Aurélien, Manar, and I spent more than 2h trying to start the software communicating with the Alphanov amplifier controller.
each time, we had a problem with the software, asking to switch OFF and ON the controller before being able to switch the amplifier diodes ON.
we switched OFF and ON many times without any success.
in the end, Aurélien called Guillaume from Alphanov... and without changing anything, it worked... strange!
one possible problem could be the correct detection of Frep of the seed laser (OneFive).
as we didn't check the signal coming from the seed laser, it could be the reason... to be confirmed.
the present status for the controller is:
- the power connector (on the rear side) is ON
- the green relay (on the rear side) is ACTIVATED
- the key (on the front side) is OFF
- the emission button (on the front side) is OFF
the normal procedure to start the controller is:
- switch the front side key ON
- start the software (possible error msg asking to switch OFF and ON the power button: don't do that)
- switch the emission button on the front side (which is red) ON
- switch the preamplifier button ON
=> all the software LEDs should be green and the PD_PULSE window should indicate 133.33MHz
otherwise, try a RESET on the software and restart the procedure (and pray).
at the end of the day, we successfully switched ON the preamp and increased the Power adjustment around 20% to get something about 10W on the big PowerMeter placed at the output of the amplifier.
=> we need another day of practice to be more confident with the software!
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Alphanov amplifier power measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This morning, with Manar and Aurélien, we measure the power directly at the output of the Alphanov amplifier with the 2 compressors CVBG (seeding laser at Frep = 133MHz)
(we had to remove the base plate where the deflector mirrors were mounted to put the large powermeter).
with the previously described procedure, it seems that the Alphanov software is now working and we were able to start immediately the amplifier.
the chiller temperature was set at 25°C but we saw in the Alphanov documentation that the chiller temperature was closer to 20°C.
we did several measurements at 25°C and 20°C and it doesn't change a lot the output power.
so, we set the temperature to 23°C to avoid condensation (if too cold).
we will ask Guillaume what is the best temperature for the chiller.
power measurements:
power ratio => measured output power (with external powermeter, not with the software)
10% => 1W
20% => 9W
30% => 17.6W
40% => 26.4W
50% => 34.5W
60% => 42.5W
70% => 49.3W
80% => 56.6W
90% => 63.6W
100% => ~70W (expected value, not measured)
we stopped the measurements at 90% as we observed a difference in the software between the expected values (previously recorded by Alphanov) and the present ones.
the present values are quite bigger than the ones measured by Alphanov.
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Alphanov amplifier power measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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answers from Guillaume:
- the chiller temperature has to be set to 25°C
- the power measured with the software can change a little from what Alphanov measured with their laser.
=> one can set power tolerances to 30% in the "caracterisation.csv" file.
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This morning, with Manar and Aurélien, we measure the power directly at the output of the Alphanov amplifier.
(we had to remove the base plate where the deflector mirrors were mounted to put the large powermeter).
with the previously described procedure, it seems that the Alphanov software is now working and we were able to start immediately the amplifier.
the chiller temperature was set at 25°C but we saw in the Alphanov documentation that the chiller temperature was closer to 20°C.
we did several measurements at 25°C and 20°C and it doesn't change a lot the output power.
so, we set the temperature to 23°C to avoid condensation (if too cold).
we will ask Guillaume what is the best temperature for the chiller.
power measurements:
power ratio => measured output power (with external powermeter, not with the software)
10% => 1W
20% => 9W
30% => 17.6W
40% => 26.4W
50% => 34.5W
60% => 42.5W
70% => 49.3W
80% => 56.6W
90% => 63.6W
100% => ~70W (expected value, not measured)
we stopped the measurements at 90% as we observed a difference in the software between the expected values (previously recorded by Alphanov) and the present ones.
the present values are quite bigger than the ones measured by Alphanov.
Aurélien will call Guillaume to check if it is a problem or not.
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Current Installed Setup, posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Attached is the current setup in ThomX |
Cavity beam Image , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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Updated beam image after change on the mode axis.
Taken after P4. |
FP cavity mode axis change and Finesse measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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this morning with Manar, we did a cavity mode axis change.
we checked the cavity mode centroid position on the beam profiler (placed behind P4) and changed it by roughly 1mm on the X-axis and by 500µm on the Y-axis.
for doing that, we played only on the S2 mirror while the cavity is locked and we slightly changed X and Y motors, step by step, and we realigned the laser beam with external injection mirrors when needed.
in the end, we were able to improve the transmission power by roughly 25% (810mV to 1020mV on the Transmission photodiode on the scope).
we did several Finesse measurements after that: 4950, 5190, 5100, 5120, 5200 => ~ 5100
compare to the previous Finesse value, around 4200, this is also roughly 25% better, in agreement with the transmission power increase.
conclusion: it seems the Finesse, thus the losses are almost the same "everywhere" on the mirrors => we need to clean them or replace them.
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Cavity Lock and Finess measurment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 6x
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This morning, me and Ronic managed to obtain the FSR and image of the finesse which is to be analyzed.
Adding:
- Beam Image at P4 propagation, no lens is added.
- Image of the Finesse on Oscilloscope
more information to be included later
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Cavity Lock and Finess measurment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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to measure the Finesse, instead of having 2x EOM for the PDH and for the modulation sweep, I simply used 2x generators coupled with DC-blocks to a T connector (SMA) screwed directly on the EOM input.
as the transmission signal is fluctuating, it is not easy to have a good fit of the Airy peak.
if I measure the width at half of the maximum of the peak, I found roughly 10kHz instead of the awaited 2kHz... :-(
one needs a better evaluation with a more stable transmission signal and also to be sure that the L-shape metal piece (used to remove high order modes) does not introduce some losses and then reduce the Finesse...
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This morning, me and Ronic managed to obtain the FSR and image of the finesse which is to be analyzed.
Adding:
- Beam Image at P4 propagation, no lens is added.
- Image of the Finesse on Oscilloscope
more information to be included later
Will continue in the afternoon .
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Cavity Lock and Finess measurment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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After changing the way of injecting modulation for PDH and modulation for FSR scanning (we split the modulations to 2 different EOMs), the locking is very stable and we can measure the Finesse.
FSR = 33.34MHz
hereafter, the transmission power during an FSR scan and its fit (sweep of 300kHz of FSR in 2s)
we took 5 acquisitions which give a Finesse of :
4236
4254
4400
4045
4177
=> roughly Finesse = 4200 ! far from the 17000 previously obtained........
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to measure the Finesse, instead of having 2x EOM for the PDH and for the modulation sweep, I simply used 2x generators coupled with DC-blocks to a T connector (SMA) screwed directly on the EOM input.
as the transmission signal is fluctuating, it is not easy to have a good fit of the Airy peak.
if I measure the width at half of the maximum of the peak, I found roughly 10kHz instead of the awaited 2kHz... :-(
one needs a better evaluation with a more stable transmission signal and also to be sure that the L-shape metal piece (used to remove high order modes) does not introduce some losses and then reduce the Finesse...
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This morning, me and Ronic managed to obtain the FSR and image of the finesse which is to be analyzed.
Adding:
- Beam Image at P4 propagation, no lens is added.
- Image of the Finesse on Oscilloscope
more information to be included later
Will continue in the afternoon .
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Cavity Lock and Finess measurment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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one thing which could reduce the Finesse is the L-shape metal piece if it is slightly inserted in the FP-cavity mode path.
understanding where this L-shape effectively is is not easy... some pictures are attached.
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After changing the way of injecting modulation for PDH and modulation for FSR scanning (we split the modulations to 2 different EOMs), the locking is very stable and we can measure the Finesse.
FSR = 33.34MHz
hereafter, the transmission power during an FSR scan and its fit (sweep of 300kHz of FSR in 2s)
we took 5 acquisitions which give a Finesse of :
4236
4254
4400
4045
4177
=> roughly Finesse = 4200 ! far from the 17000 previously obtained........
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to measure the Finesse, instead of having 2x EOM for the PDH and for the modulation sweep, I simply used 2x generators coupled with DC-blocks to a T connector (SMA) screwed directly on the EOM input.
as the transmission signal is fluctuating, it is not easy to have a good fit of the Airy peak.
if I measure the width at half of the maximum of the peak, I found roughly 10kHz instead of the awaited 2kHz... :-(
one needs a better evaluation with a more stable transmission signal and also to be sure that the L-shape metal piece (used to remove high order modes) does not introduce some losses and then reduce the Finesse...
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This morning, me and Ronic managed to obtain the FSR and image of the finesse which is to be analyzed.
Adding:
- Beam Image at P4 propagation, no lens is added.
- Image of the Finesse on Oscilloscope
more information to be included later
Will continue in the afternoon .
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics 
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Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
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Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics   
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***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
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The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
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Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
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***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
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The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
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Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics 
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Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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This morning with Manar, we installed the AOM+RF amplifier and the associated fast feedback loop.
Now the locking with the Koheras is good with a coupling of 20%.
Tomorrow is dedicated to the measurement of the Finesse.... we will have to add the 2nd EOM.
We observed a very stable lock if the airflow is OFF.
when it is ON, the lock is much less stable... maybe a problem of optimization of the feedback... we will see that tomorrow if we have time enough.
We also observed a quite important sensititvity of the PZT voltage when slightly pushing on the housing with the finger: we clearly see the compensation on the PZT voltage.
I didn't calibrate this voltage but it seems to be an important fraction of 1µm... I would say around 100nm
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics  
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Adding Oscilloscope images
- delocked + locked intervals showing the 20% coupling
- lock when the housing panels are closed + airflow on .
- lock when the housing panels are closed + air flow at lowest setting
an additional factor to the PZT voltage sensitivity is the housing panels, we see a decrease in the voltage when closing them.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we installed the AOM+RF amplifier and the associated fast feedback loop.
Now the locking with the Koheras is good with a coupling of 20%.
Tomorrow is dedicated to the measurement of the Finesse.... we will have to add the 2nd EOM.
We observed a very stable lock if the airflow is OFF.
when it is ON, the lock is much less stable... maybe a problem of optimization of the feedback... we will see that tomorrow if we have time enough.
We also observed a quite important sensititvity of the PZT voltage when slightly pushing on the housing with the finger: we clearly see the compensation on the PZT voltage.
I didn't calibrate this voltage but it seems to be an important fraction of 1µm... I would say around 100nm
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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Ending alignment series !!
| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding Oscilloscope images
- delocked + locked intervals showing the 20% coupling
- lock when the housing panels are closed + airflow on .
- lock when the housing panels are closed + air flow at lowest setting
an additional factor to the PZT voltage sensitivity is the housing panels, we see a decrease in the voltage when closing them.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we installed the AOM+RF amplifier and the associated fast feedback loop.
Now the locking with the Koheras is good with a coupling of 20%.
Tomorrow is dedicated to the measurement of the Finesse.... we will have to add the 2nd EOM.
We observed a very stable lock if the airflow is OFF.
when it is ON, the lock is much less stable... maybe a problem of optimization of the feedback... we will see that tomorrow if we have time enough.
We also observed a quite important sensititvity of the PZT voltage when slightly pushing on the housing with the finger: we clearly see the compensation on the PZT voltage.
I didn't calibrate this voltage but it seems to be an important fraction of 1µm... I would say around 100nm
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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As it can be seen on the first plot, even with a good locking (good reduction of "high" frequencies noise: we had better locking than on the picture) we still have very low frequency (~ 1Hz) fluctuations
these fluctuations prevent having a good measurement of the Finesse and they need to be understood.
they can come from fluctuations due to :
- input power
- input or feedback polarization
- phase noise
- alignment
- mode matching
1) input power:
we looked at the direct reflected power from the cavity without locking as an image of the input power.
=> we don't see these fluctuations
2) input polarization:
as there are many unconstrained fibers after the NKT (EOM/AOM) it could produce some polarization fluctuations.
we put a PBS and half and quarter waveplates in front of the reflected photodiode when the cavity is not locked to detect a change in the input polarization
=> we don't see these fluctuations
3) feedback polarization:
the beam on the PDH box is coming from a wedge which can change the relative gains between different polarizations.
we put half and quarter waveplates in the injection path to adapt the input polarization with the cavity mode polarization axis
and we put half and quarter waveplates and a PBS in front of the PDH box to select the right polarization for the feedback.
=> it didn't change the power fluctuations effect.
4) phase noise
we adjusted the feedback parameters (PID gains, AOM gain, locking offset, digital and analog low pass filters) to have a clean signal without high frequencies noise.
the transmission and coupling signals exhibit quite narrow lines at the millisecond level but we see 10-15% transmission change at the second level.
as the PID has a higher gain at low frequencies, one should not see more fluctuations at these frequencies.
or if it comes from external noise, one should see a correction signal on the PZT which is the image of these fluctuations => we don't see that.
we also stopped the cavity motors controllers without any effect on the transmission stability.
5) alignment
the alignment cannot change except if some vibrations are present, which should be seen also on the PZT correction signal => we don't see that.
6) mode matching
as the coupling is only 20% and the alignment has been already optimized, the mode matching is quite bad for sure.
could it be the source of the problem?
from experience, we know that a bad mode matching implies a bad locking but the reason is not clear.
=> to be discussed with Viktor: can we improve the mode matching with a simple lens?
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| Manar Amer wrote: |
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Adding Oscilloscope images
- delocked + locked intervals showing the 20% coupling
- lock when the housing panels are closed + airflow on .
- lock when the housing panels are closed + air flow at lowest setting
an additional factor to the PZT voltage sensitivity is the housing panels, we see a decrease in the voltage when closing them.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This morning with Manar, we installed the AOM+RF amplifier and the associated fast feedback loop.
Now the locking with the Koheras is good with a coupling of 20%.
Tomorrow is dedicated to the measurement of the Finesse.... we will have to add the 2nd EOM.
We observed a very stable lock if the airflow is OFF.
when it is ON, the lock is much less stable... maybe a problem of optimization of the feedback... we will see that tomorrow if we have time enough.
We also observed a quite important sensititvity of the PZT voltage when slightly pushing on the housing with the finger: we clearly see the compensation on the PZT voltage.
I didn't calibrate this voltage but it seems to be an important fraction of 1µm... I would say around 100nm
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
| Manar Amer wrote: |
|
Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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FP cavity alignment , posted by Manar Amer at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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The fluctuation problem has been solved.
It was simply the new scheme to inject 2 RF frequencies in a single EOM.
It maybe produces some standing waves in the EOM RF input and creates some phase noise.
we went back to the standard solution with 2x EOM and the problem vanished.
Now we have a very good lock and we can measure the Finesse.
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As it can be seen on the first plot, even with a good locking (good reduction of "high" frequencies noise: we had better locking than on the picture) we still have very low frequency (~ 1Hz) fluctuations
these fluctuations prevent having a good measurement of the Finesse and they need to be understood.
they can come from fluctuations due to :
- input power
- input or feedback polarization
- phase noise
- alignment
- mode matching
1) input power:
we looked at the direct reflected power from the cavity without locking as an image of the input power.
=> we don't see these fluctuations
2) input polarization:
as there are many unconstrained fibers after the NKT (EOM/AOM) it could produce some polarization fluctuations.
we put a PBS and half and quarter waveplates in front of the reflected photodiode when the cavity is not locked to detect a change in the input polarization
=> we don't see these fluctuations
3) feedback polarization:
the beam on the PDH box is coming from a wedge which can change the relative gains between different polarizations.
we put half and quarter waveplates in the injection path to adapt the input polarization with the cavity mode polarization axis
and we put half and quarter waveplates and a PBS in front of the PDH box to select the right polarization for the feedback.
=> it didn't change the power fluctuations effect.
4) phase noise
we adjusted the feedback parameters (PID gains, AOM gain, locking offset, digital and analog low pass filters) to have a clean signal without high frequencies noise.
the transmission and coupling signals exhibit quite narrow lines at the millisecond level but we see 10-15% transmission change at the second level.
as the PID has a higher gain at low frequencies, one should not see more fluctuations at these frequencies.
or if it comes from external noise, one should see a correction signal on the PZT which is the image of these fluctuations => we don't see that.
we also stopped the cavity motors controllers without any effect on the transmission stability.
5) alignment
the alignment cannot change except if some vibrations are present, which should be seen also on the PZT correction signal => we don't see that.
6) mode matching
as the coupling is only 20% and the alignment has been already optimized, the mode matching is quite bad for sure.
could it be the source of the problem?
from experience, we know that a bad mode matching implies a bad locking but the reason is not clear.
=> to be discussed with Viktor: can we improve the mode matching with a simple lens?
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Adding Oscilloscope images
- delocked + locked intervals showing the 20% coupling
- lock when the housing panels are closed + airflow on .
- lock when the housing panels are closed + air flow at lowest setting
an additional factor to the PZT voltage sensitivity is the housing panels, we see a decrease in the voltage when closing them.
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This morning with Manar, we installed the AOM+RF amplifier and the associated fast feedback loop.
Now the locking with the Koheras is good with a coupling of 20%.
Tomorrow is dedicated to the measurement of the Finesse.... we will have to add the 2nd EOM.
We observed a very stable lock if the airflow is OFF.
when it is ON, the lock is much less stable... maybe a problem of optimization of the feedback... we will see that tomorrow if we have time enough.
We also observed a quite important sensititvity of the PZT voltage when slightly pushing on the housing with the finger: we clearly see the compensation on the PZT voltage.
I didn't calibrate this voltage but it seems to be an important fraction of 1µm... I would say around 100nm
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This afternoon, I did some alignment of the injection mirrors with a fast scan on the LaseLock to get a regular transmission photodiode signal.
the coupling increased to 10-15%
I got a first lock of the cavity only with the PZT.
there is some ringing on the error signal and the locking is quite noisy, which means the cavity LW seems to be more narrow than the Koheras LW, which is a good sign.
tomorrow, I will add an AOM to improve the locking.
I did some alignment after locking.
it was difficult because of the outside noise (engines producing loud and low-frequency noises).
the coupling is now about 20% (position saved in the injection motors software).
I added a half waveplate which has to be optimized.
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Installed and inputs:
- CW laser ; power = 101 mW
- PDH ;
- at output
- Low pass filter 50 ohm DC-1.9 MHz
- at input
- freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 1.2 V , phase = 160 /
- voltage = ~ 6 V
- EOM ; freq = 8.4 MHz , Ampl = 100 mV , phase = 90
- Photodiodes
- beam profiler
Observed during this morning:
- coupling : below 10% .... approximately ~ 8%
- Oscilloscope :
- yellow : transmission
- purple : reflection
- Blue : error signal
- green : scan signal
Note : We observe a lot of higher order modes, and they are not occurring regularly.
A schematic of the current setup is attached.
An image from the oscilloscope show a low coupling but clean error signal.
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Yesterday, we did the alignment again using Iris and beam profilers to obtain a more precise result.
at the end of the alignment procedure, we successfully obtained the beating modes.
the geometrical alignment seems good (weak odd modes) but we could need to put a telescope on the Koheras line as the beam size seems quite different from the mode size (quite strong even modes).
without any improvement of the alignment using photodiodes, one obtains about 15-20% of coupling.
we put several Iris on the table:
- 2 Iris before the 2 alignment mirrors to fix the axis of the laser on these mirrors
- 1 Iris just before the cavity (we will add an additional one today) to fix the cavity axis
- 1 Iris in reflection of the cavity to fix the M1 orientation
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***** Continuation of the alignment ---- FP Cavity Open --- ****
The cavity was put under outer pressure and was opened for the alignment
The alignment was done using CW koheras infrared laser and the inside mirrors irises
we observed the beam output centered at S2, S3 and P4
transmission from S4 to P1 was aligned at the center of P1 iris and an outside reference was fixed, then P1 mirror was placed, and we aligned the reflection with the transmission.
....... After the interior alignment, the cavity windows were closed ....
A beam profiler was placed at P4 transmission -----> nothing observed even with a piezo drive on the CW infrared laser
observed a beam output at S2 and S3, but the fundamental mode is not seen, or even a higher order mode (which we can't explain, as the beam is centered on the mirrors)
images show the output at S2 and S3
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The alignment is on hold until next week 17th - 18th Jan
an Alignment attempt will be done when the ring part close to the FP cavity is opened.
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Note the direction of injection is M1 - M2 - M3 - M4
P1 - S2 - S3 - P4
The injected beam is aligned at the center of the irises placed at the windows mounts of mirror M1 (Injection) and M2(spherical)
At Transmission of M2 : in addition to centered beam, we observe diffraction which interferes in observing the beating at M2 output
(could be diffracted beam from the metal pipes inside or from the D-shaped mirror installed inside)
At Transmission of M3 : we observe a beam output could be part of TM00 mode (the shape is distorted !!)
suspicious reasons :
- when we have a frequency sweep on the CW(Koheras) piezo; we observe it beating (when increasing the drive it is increasing in intensity)
- when we adjust the alignment mirrors; the beam doesn't change position and only its intensity changes
continuation with the alignment and try to eliminate the diffraction and find the shape of the beam.
A manual change in the D-shaped mirror position to remove any possible effects from it.
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Documentation about mechanics on Atrium, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about mechanics
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https://atrium.in2p3.fr/0dded51a-1cb0-43e6-ae0d-626cd5db7078
a lot of schematics regarding the FP cavity are stored by the mechanic group on the Atrium repository. |
Alignment procedure, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics
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we did again the complete alignment procedure starting with iris and optimizing injection motors Ma and Mb, then installing mirror S2, S3, P4 and P1, optimizing thetaX and thetaY axis for each motor.
everything was fine until we installed P1. we tried to optimize thetaX and thetaY of P1 and we clearly observed a strange motion when doing that :
- for thetaX axis, steps in one direction seem to have a different length from steps in reverse direction.
- for thetaY axis, trying to move in one direction, makes sometime a motion in the reverse direction.
at this moment, it is difficult to say if the problem comes from the controller, the mirror mount or the motor itself.
if both axis are concerned on the same mirror (P1), maybe the problem comes from the mount... to be continued on Monday.
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Alignment procedure, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics
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Picture of the installed mirrors inside the FP cavity.
To install an Iris instead of a mirror :
One has to remove manually the orange nuts and replace the mirror mount with the Iris mount.
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we did again the complete alignment procedure starting with iris and optimizing injection motors Ma and Mb, then installing mirror S2, S3, P4 and P1, optimizing thetaX and thetaY axis for each motor.
everything was fine until we installed P1. we tried to optimize thetaX and thetaY of P1 and we clearly observed a strange motion when doing that :
- for thetaX axis, steps in one direction seem to have a different length from steps in reverse direction.
- for thetaY axis, trying to move in one direction, makes sometime a motion in the reverse direction.
at this moment, it is difficult to say if the problem comes from the controller, the mirror mount or the motor itself.
if both axis are concerned on the same mirror (P1), maybe the problem comes from the mount... to be continued on Monday.
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FP cavity alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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as the iris used to locate the FP-cavity axis have been removed before moving the table inside the Igloo, we have to find again this FP-cavity axis.
this morning with Viktor, we started to make the alignment of the FP-cavity with a red laser using only the "input window" iris mount built by Yann.
we used a 4 axis mount for the red laser, plus a 2 axis mount for the injection mirror (we didn't use the final injection mirrors).
the red laser is clearly visible in the transmission of the 3 "output mirrors" of the cavity.
1- we made a pre-alignment of the red laser using the reflection on the input window
=> one can see the beam at the output of all the 3 "output mirrors", but not centered on their respective windows.
2- we made a final alignment of the red laser to have roughly the beam going through the middle of all the 3 "output windows".
(rough alignment as we don't have the iris mounts for these windows, yet).
3- we put a second iris in the input path to fix the input beam axis relative to the FP cavity axis.
(the first iris is the one used on the "input window" iris mount).
this afternoon, we plan to replace the mirror used by the final injection mirrors of the cavity.
and then, use the Koheras laser to try to get some resonances.
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FP cavity alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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This afternoon, we continued the alignment of the red laser.
we did it using the 2 final injection mirrors.
we still see a clear transmission after M2, a weak transmission after M3, and almost nothing after M4 due to the power loss going through the dielectric injection mirrors (which are not optimized for red wavelength).
we placed 2 new iris in the path before the injection mirrors to help the alignment of the Koheras with the periscope.
and we prepared different equipments to continue next time: scope, photodiode, beam profiler, power meter....
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as the iris used to locate the FP-cavity axis have been removed before moving the table inside the Igloo, we have to find again this FP-cavity axis.
this morning with Viktor, we started to make the alignment of the FP-cavity with a red laser using only the "input window" iris mount built by Yann.
we used a 4 axis mount for the red laser, plus a 2 axis mount for the injection mirror (we didn't use the final injection mirrors).
the red laser is clearly visible in the transmission of the 3 "output mirrors" of the cavity.
1- we made a pre-alignment of the red laser using the reflection on the input window
=> one can see the beam at the output of all the 3 "output mirrors", but not centered on their respective windows.
2- we made a final alignment of the red laser to have roughly the beam going through the middle of all the 3 "output windows".
(rough alignment as we don't have the iris mounts for these windows, yet).
3- we put a second iris in the input path to fix the input beam axis relative to the FP cavity axis.
(the first iris is the one used on the "input window" iris mount).
this afternoon, we plan to replace the mirror used by the final injection mirrors of the cavity.
and then, use the Koheras laser to try to get some resonances.
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FP cavity alignment, posted by Ronic Chiche at ThomX igloo about lasers and optics
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A continuation of the alignment process was done, there was change in it due to variation in temperature,
it was done using the semiconducting laser, and we were able to obtain an output at M2.
2 references were placed before the alignment mirrors Ma and Mb , to fix the line when changing from semiconducting laser to CW "koheras"
Another reference was placed at the reflection line.
Then we changed to CW laser and placed a beamprofiler at the output of m3 trying to observe the cavity mode, but with no success
(there was a shaped observed which we thought of as the cavity mode, but it changed position when moving the alignment -- > not mode (the cavity mode only changes intensity with alignment mirrors, or disappears))
later a continuation will be done for the alignment using 2 beamprofilers
Note: a reference file of the mirror positions was saved on the command computer and a laptop dedicated to ThomX cavity is placed in the casmate
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This afternoon, we continued the alignment of the red laser.
we did it using the 2 final injection mirrors.
we still see a clear transmission after M2, a weak transmission after M3, and almost nothing after M4 due to the power loss going through the dielectric injection mirrors (which are not optimized for red wavelength).
we placed 2 new iris in the path before the injection mirrors to help the alignment of the Koheras with the periscope.
and we prepared different equipments to continue next time: scope, photodiode, beam profiler, power meter....
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as the iris used to locate the FP-cavity axis have been removed before moving the table inside the Igloo, we have to find again this FP-cavity axis.
this morning with Viktor, we started to make the alignment of the FP-cavity with a red laser using only the "input window" iris mount built by Yann.
we used a 4 axis mount for the red laser, plus a 2 axis mount for the injection mirror (we didn't use the final injection mirrors).
the red laser is clearly visible in the transmission of the 3 "output mirrors" of the cavity.
1- we made a pre-alignment of the red laser using the reflection on the input window
=> one can see the beam at the output of all the 3 "output mirrors", but not centered on their respective windows.
2- we made a final alignment of the red laser to have roughly the beam going through the middle of all the 3 "output windows".
(rough alignment as we don't have the iris mounts for these windows, yet).
3- we put a second iris in the input path to fix the input beam axis relative to the FP cavity axis.
(the first iris is the one used on the "input window" iris mount).
this afternoon, we plan to replace the mirror used by the final injection mirrors of the cavity.
and then, use the Koheras laser to try to get some resonances.
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Onefive ouput power and spectrum, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics   
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After turning on, one can see the 133.33MHz Onefive output power for ~40min with OD2 filter (~/20). So the real output power is ~57mW. A measurment over several days (15?) should come in few weeks.
The spectrum here has been taken one day after turning on the Onefive (see Fig. 133_spectrum_full and 133_spectrum). One can see the central wavelength of 1030.5 nm and a small peak at 1054nm (see Fig. 133_spectrum2).
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Onefive ouput power and spectrum, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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1) Note: The OneFive laser used for experimenting is the one for the SBox
but, for now only this laser arrived from the company so we are doing tests (measuring the spectrometer and power ) on it inside the ThomX cavity clean room.
2) on the RF - Analyzer the value of the laser repetition frequency is measured:
* 17/12/2020 (when first turning it on, the day before in the afternoon ) ---> 133.330 700 MHz
* this day18/12/2020 (in the afternoon, after a full day to it being on) ----> 133.330 840 MHz
they have a difference of 140 Hz this comes from normal thermal expansion inside the laser which is ok, as it changed over the course of a day of operating the laser.
3) the power meter is connected to the desktop in the ThomX cavity room and a TeamViewer application has been installed to observe the measurement over the period of several days mentioned (15?) remotely.
to access this you need to have an account on the application and allow your account to access it from the desktop.
for now, only Ronic and Manar has remote access.
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After turning on, one can see the 133.33MHz Onefive output power for ~40min with OD2 filter (~/20). So the real output power is ~57mW. A measurment over several days (15?) should come in few weeks.
The spectrum here has been taken one day after turning on the Onefive (see Fig. 133_spectrum_full and 133_spectrum). One can see the central wavelength of 1030.5 nm and a small peak at 1054nm (see Fig. 133_spectrum2).
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Beam size and finesse, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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FSR initiale : 33.34 MHz (S3 = -825000 et S4 = -825000)
Beam size initiale : wx=2.05mm et wy=2.15mm
Finesse initiale : 3400
FSR après éloignement des miroirs sphériques : 33.29 MHz (S3 ~= -1496000 et S4 ~= -1496000)
Beam size : wx=1.7mm et wy=1.85mm
Finesse : 3600
FSR après rapprochement des miroirs sphériques : 33.39 MHz (S3 ~= -250000 et S4 ~= -500000)
Beam size : wx = 2.1mm et wy=2.4mm
Fit de la caméra jamais au dessus de 90%. ~~80%. |
Beam size and finesse, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Measurement behind P4 (planar mirror)
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FSR initiale : 33.34 MHz (S3 = -825000 et S4 = -825000)
Beam size initiale : wx=2.05mm et wy=2.15mm
Finesse initiale : 3400
FSR après éloignement des miroirs sphériques : 33.29 MHz (S3 ~= -1496000 et S4 ~= -1496000)
Beam size : wx=1.7mm et wy=1.85mm
Finesse : 3600
FSR après rapprochement des miroirs sphériques : 33.39 MHz (S3 ~= -250000 et S4 ~= -500000)
Beam size : wx = 2.1mm et wy=2.4mm
Fit de la caméra jamais au dessus de 90%. ~~80%.
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Coating reflectivity, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics 6x
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Coatings reflectivity curves and datas for HR Saphir, HR Suprasil and HR ULE. |
Finesse measurement after the Edge installation, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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After the Edge installation inside the cavity, the Finesse has been measured several times by modulation technique with an average around 16000:
(the scan speed is 50kHz in 10 seconds.)
So, it hasn't changed since the last measurement in June, just before the Edge installation.
The Edge position is normally the furthest from cavity beam (all rotating knobs are at 0 positions)
We used the last Onefive telescope (used with CVBGs). Coupling reached ~50% after alignment.
The cavity vacuum is ~7.2e-9 mbar as the cavity has been recently opened...
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Finesse measurement after confinement, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics    
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After 3 months without human presence, finesse has been measured 3 times with average optimization:
- 16150
- 16067
- 16172
Last measurement was on 6th of november 2019, finesse was 17000. So it didn't change or just slightly.
We used the last Onefive telescope (used with CVBGs). Coupling reached ~30% (see pink curve on image attached).
Cavity vacuum is ~1.2e-9 mbar and pneumatic valves were still openned after these 3 months. |
Pointing stability with CVBG, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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Yesterday, with Titouan, we made some measurements on pointing stability of the laser beam after amplifier and CVBG.
the amplifier beam go through a first telescope to be small enough and colimated before going to CVBG's, then go to CVBG's and then is sent through the FP-cavity telescope to the FP-cavity itself.
the total length is about 6m to mirror M1.
the surface of the mirror M1 is imaged with several wedges to a Basler CCD.
(x is for veritcal position and y is for horizontal position)
* the 1st plot shows the pointing stability at low power of amplifier without airflow and walking around during about 5 minutes extracted from the Basler CCD video.
when walking around or with airflow the pointing stabily is much worse.
* the 2nd plot shows the pointing stability vs amplifier current.
it is comparable (a litle bit worse) to the pointing stability at low power.
one clearly see the beam expanding in vertical direction and also in horizontal direction.
the effect could come from the CVBG telescope lenses which are standard lenses and not high power lenses.
the pointing effect could come also from the same effect if the lens is not perfectly centered.
we took also some picture of the CVBG at different power with the Thermal camera but we need to get the data from camera (old software not compatible with Windows 10) |
Amplifier laser diodes issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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This is a long time issue for the ThomX amplifier : on the 4 pumping diodes available, the 1st diode has a higher temperature than the others around 40°C (see the picture).
the problem comes from the TEC which is not activated (see diodes parameter files in execel format). the related software windows are shaded.
I phoned to Jerome to ask him if one can securely activate the TEC, and he answered "yes".
but once the TEC is activated by loading parameters and modifying the line of the TEC activation, the temperature does'nt fall down as it seems the TEC does'nt work properly.
maybe it is not connected properly ? to be checked...
the result is, as the diode temperature is too high, an alarm is fired and the diode is deactivated... impossible to increase the current.
one has to deactivate the TEC and shut down electrically the amplifier to go back to the starting point.
Conclusion :
- the TEC of the diode 1 does'nt work properly.
- one can't activate it otherwise an alarm is fired and the diode is disabled.
- one should check the TEC connections in the amplifier |
Optical spectrum before and after CVBG, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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Measurement of the optical spectrum with Avantes OSA before (1st picture) and after CVBG (2nd picture) with 2nd stage on the laser amplifier.
The 1st CVBG stretches the beam horizontally due to the default incident angle and the fact that different wavelength are reflected in the CVBG with different depth.
as a result, the optical spectrum is varying along the transversal axis of the beam.
The 2nd CVBG is injected with the opposiste incident angle and should compensate the stretch effect to get back a circular beam.
spatially, the beam is quite circular but one can still see a dependance between position in the beam and optical spectrum.
Then, it is difficult to show the "right" optical spectrum after CVBG (one could use a diffuser for that) but it is clear that the spectral width is quite the same (~ 2nm due to the CFBG at the input of the amplifier) before and after CVBG. |
Optical spectrum analyzer resolution, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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The Koheras @0.5mW is directly connected with fibers FC/APC -> FC/PC to the Avantes optical spectrum analyzer.
The FWHM wavelength, measured with the Avantes software, is 0.126nm |
Optical spectrum analyzer resolution, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Same measurement with Koheras @100mW and using fiber coupling lenses between Koheras and Avantes OSA.
The FWHM wavelength, measured with the Avantes software, is 0.116nm
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The Koheras @0.5mW is directly connected with fibers FC/APC -> FC/PC to the Avantes optical spectrum analyzer.
The FWHM wavelength, measured with the Avantes software, is 0.126nm
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Beam pulse duration, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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We installed the 2 CVBG for compression after the amplifier.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences... see interferences.avi video file
One can notice some misalignement at the end of the video.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (peak-peak or standard deviation) each 250µm of the delay line (500µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 6ps...
It seems that an 'after pulse' is visible in the interferences.
An other meausurement using a 2 photons photodiode will be used to confirm this measurement.
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Beam pulse duration, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Yesterday, Loic installed a telescope before CVBG's to reduce the spot size on CVBG's and reduced the incident angle 0.5-1° on them (on the datasheet the specified incident angle is 2.8°).
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2 ps... (see curve)
we still see an 'after pulse'.
if the pulse is 1ps long and 100kW is stored in the cavity, it means 3GW peak for the whole beam... it is comparable with the damage threshold of the mirror !!!
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We installed the 2 CVBG for compression after the amplifier.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences... see interferences.avi video file
One can notice some misalignement at the end of the video.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (peak-peak or standard deviation) each 250µm of the delay line (500µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 6ps...
It seems that an 'after pulse' is visible in the interferences.
An other meausurement using a 2 photons photodiode will be used to confirm this measurement.
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Beam pulse duration, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Yesterday, Loïc put the CVBG's back to their specified angles.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2.5 ps... (see curve)
from Fabian calculation, at 100kW, with w=2mm, the fluence on mirror should be around 0.05J/cm^2.
from this article (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0030402618313275), the damage threshold for SiO2/Ta2O5 multilayers should be around 4.8J/cm^2 @ 1030nm
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Yesterday, Loic installed a telescope before CVBG's to reduce the spot size on CVBG's and reduced the incident angle 0.5-1° on them (on the datasheet the specified incident angle is 2.8°).
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2 ps... (see curve)
we still see an 'after pulse'.
if the pulse is 1ps long and 100kW is stored in the cavity, it means 3GW peak for the whole beam... it is comparable with the damage threshold of the mirror !!!
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We installed the 2 CVBG for compression after the amplifier.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences... see interferences.avi video file
One can notice some misalignement at the end of the video.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (peak-peak or standard deviation) each 250µm of the delay line (500µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 6ps...
It seems that an 'after pulse' is visible in the interferences.
An other meausurement using a 2 photons photodiode will be used to confirm this measurement.
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Beam pulse duration, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Last Thursday (20th of February), Loïc and Titouan realigned the stretcher CVBG to its nominal angle and they used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip).
one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2.3 ps... (see curve)
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Yesterday, Loïc put the CVBG's back to their specified angles.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2.5 ps... (see curve)
from Fabian calculation, at 100kW, with w=2mm, the fluence on mirror should be around 0.05J/cm^2.
from this article (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0030402618313275), the damage threshold for SiO2/Ta2O5 multilayers should be around 4.8J/cm^2 @ 1030nm
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Yesterday, Loic installed a telescope before CVBG's to reduce the spot size on CVBG's and reduced the incident angle 0.5-1° on them (on the datasheet the specified incident angle is 2.8°).
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (standard deviation) each 50µm of the delay line (100µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 2 ps... (see curve)
we still see an 'after pulse'.
if the pulse is 1ps long and 100kW is stored in the cavity, it means 3GW peak for the whole beam... it is comparable with the damage threshold of the mirror !!!
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We installed the 2 CVBG for compression after the amplifier.
We used an interferometric technique with a delay line and combining the two paths in a CCD to measure interferences... see interferences.avi video file
One can notice some misalignement at the end of the video.
After supressing the global shape of the superposed pulses, one measures the amplitude of the remaining fringes (peak-peak or standard deviation) each 250µm of the delay line (500µm of round-trip). one gets the interferences pulse shape with a FWHM of 6ps...
It seems that an 'after pulse' is visible in the interferences.
An other meausurement using a 2 photons photodiode will be used to confirm this measurement.
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Powerup with 2.5ps pulses, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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A power up has been performed on ThomX until 65kW intracavity power. We didn't see any modes but stored power was really unstable since ~60kW (see image tek00004.png).
Measurement report is shown in the table below. Gain seems to decrease against intracavity power.
As a conclusion, pulse length compression does not seems to bring any trouble in the PDH loop. But at relatively high intracavity power, power start to be really unstable even if we did not see any mode.
We can notice that we tried to align, change CEP but it had no important impact on the quality of the lock. See further experiments with Ronic and D-shape. |
ThomX Locked with CVBGs, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics    
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ThomX has been locked with a new telescope while using compression CVBGs.
Coupling is ~50-55% and lock is stable.
Power up to ~50kW should follow up soon (stop when HOM are observed). We'll not go over ~100kW to not risk any breakdown due to the short pulse length (~2.5 ps).
Fabian and Ronic discussed LIDT (laser induced damage threshold) for Ta2O5 at 2.5 ps is => 1J/cm²
We have w > 2 mm ( => surface ~= 0.126 cm²) . At 100 kW it means 800 kW/cm². At 33.33 MHz it means 24 mJ/cm². With 2.5 ps, peak power is 10 GW/cm² (1.2 GW peak).
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Telescope for compressors and ThomX, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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CVBGs telescope is done with w ~= 1mm.
ThomX telescope is done with w ~= 2.3mm in x and y.
Newt step is to lock with these short pulses (measured ~2.5ps with FWHM standard deviation interference method). |
Onefive output power, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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The pump voltage has been increased few days ago when looking for a modlock of the laser.
The 33MHz Onefive output power is now 3.58mW with OD1 filter ==> ~36mW.
There are 2µW @ 1% coupling fiber with OD1 filter ==> ~20µW ==> 2mW @99% coupling fiber (2mW to the amplifier). |
Onefive output power, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Onefive output power measured today. 3.52 mW with OD1 filter ==> ~35mW.
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The pump voltage has been increased few days ago when looking for a modlock of the laser.
The 33MHz Onefive output power is now 3.58mW with OD1 filter ==> ~36mW.
There are 2µW @ 1% coupling fiber with OD1 filter ==> ~20µW ==> 2mW @99% coupling fiber (2mW to the amplifier).
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CVBG reference and Eric Cormier calculation, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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The Stretcher is the "D 24-02-II", it must be used in double path before the amplifier injection.
There are two compressors in single path, "D 25-14-I" and "D 25-14-II".
Eric calculations are attached below. |
30Hz noise issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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since some days, we observe the cavity is difficult to lock and a strange 30Hz noise has appeared on the PZT signal which normally compensate the phase noise difference between the cavity and the laser.
to test if the problem could come from the laser, we changed the OneFive laser for the Koheras but we have exactly the same problem, thus we concluded that the problem come from the cavity or from the feedback.
today, we borrowed an accelerometer measurement setup to Julien Bonis to test if we can see a clear noise at 30Hz from the seismic noise.
we placed to accelerometer directly on the top of the cavity but the spectrum we obtained do not show a clear noise line at 30Hz, only a small excess of noise in this region...
nothing which clearly indicate the cause of our problem.
yesterday, we changed the feedback setup in changing the PDH box from n°2 to N°3 without any change in the 30Hz noise line.
today, we also changed the feedback setup by introducing and amplifier of 100 just after the PDH box.
if noise is coupled after the amp we should be more immunized from it... but nothing changed again.
still looking for the origin of this problem... |
30Hz noise issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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The 30 Hz noise issue has been solved !
It came from translation stage of P1 and/or P4.
Fabian remembered that close to the mirror's mount translation stage end coarse, there is a mechanical instability. The mount kind of "lift up" because of the spring strength and could induce resonance.
Initial positions:
- P1: - 1 500 000
- S2: + 1 400 000
- S3: + 1 400 000
- P4: - 1 500 000
The 30 Hz noise was removed while moving only P1 closer (then if we put back P1 to the initial position, the noise clearly appear again):
- P1: - 1 300 000 --> no 30Hz noise
- S2: + 1 400 000
- S3: + 1 400 000
- P4: - 1 500 000
The 30 Hz noise appeared again while moving P4 further:
- P1: - 1 300 000
- S2: + 1 400 000
- S3: + 1 400 000
- P4: - 1 600 000 --> 30Hz noise
Final positions:
- P1: - 1 300 000
- S2: + 1 400 000
- S3: + 1 400 000
- P4: - 1 500 000
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since some days, we observe the cavity is difficult to lock and a strange 30Hz noise has appeared on the PZT signal which normally compensate the phase noise difference between the cavity and the laser.
to test if the problem could come from the laser, we changed the OneFive laser for the Koheras but we have exactly the same problem, thus we concluded that the problem come from the cavity or from the feedback.
today, we borrowed an accelerometer measurement setup to Julien Bonis to test if we can see a clear noise at 30Hz from the seismic noise.
we placed to accelerometer directly on the top of the cavity but the spectrum we obtained do not show a clear noise line at 30Hz, only a small excess of noise in this region...
nothing which clearly indicate the cause of our problem.
yesterday, we changed the feedback setup in changing the PDH box from n°2 to N°3 without any change in the 30Hz noise line.
today, we also changed the feedback setup by introducing and amplifier of 100 just after the PDH box.
if noise is coupled after the amp we should be more immunized from it... but nothing changed again.
still looking for the origin of this problem...
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Pneumatic valves, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about vacuum
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The pneumatic valves are now plugged on the university air network.
The air valve is fully openned for the moment.
We still have to check if there is some minor leakage close to the pneumatic valve to improve the setup.
But it's not anymore an issue for the lock. |
First Lock with 2nd satge of amplifier : Motor issue ? , posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics
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Global locking almost clean : tranmission and reflection are quite noiseless except the peaks at every 500ms.
During the amplifier 2nd stage lock, we experienced 2 strange behaviors :
- short "unlocks" every 500ms exactly all the time, during the whole lock process
- some PZT (in green on the picture) shift exactly synchronized with these "unlocks" (see the red circle).
these shifts are triggered by some OneFive motor move (Frep adjustment).
We tried to disconnect software activity (use the disconnect button on the software), to disconnect USB cable, to disconnect power supply of the motor controller box but none of these actions had an effect
=> still short unlocks every 500ms...
The amplifier 2nd stage seems to have small fan for the power supply... we can try to disconnect it.
We tried to turn on the 3rd stage which uses several fans for cooling the pump diodes... thus, one can see immediatly a big increasing in the PZT signal which tries to compensate the vibrations and quicly one loose the lock.
we have to think on how to suppress these vibrations.
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First Lock with 2nd satge of amplifier : Motor issue ? , posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics
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The 500 ms noise disapeared. We had to disable the "power save" mode of the smaract translation stage. AND turn OFF and ON the controler box.
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Global locking almost clean : tranmission and reflection are quite noiseless except the peaks at every 500ms.
During the amplifier 2nd stage lock, we experienced 2 strange behaviors :
- short "unlocks" every 500ms exactly all the time, during the whole lock process
- some PZT (in green on the picture) shift exactly synchronized with these "unlocks" (see the red circle).
these shifts are triggered by some OneFive motor move (Frep adjustment).
We tried to disconnect software activity (use the disconnect button on the software), to disconnect USB cable, to disconnect power supply of the motor controller box but none of these actions had an effect
=> still short unlocks every 500ms...
The amplifier 2nd stage seems to have small fan for the power supply... we can try to disconnect it.
We tried to turn on the 3rd stage which uses several fans for cooling the pump diodes... thus, one can see immediatly a big increasing in the PZT signal which tries to compensate the vibrations and quicly one loose the lock.
we have to think on how to suppress these vibrations.
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Onefive Origami 33MHz specs, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics 6x
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Power during ~20h, power after turn on, spectrum image and excel datas, polarisation and pulse length.
Powermeter measurments were done with a /10 filter.. 3 mW means 30 mW
Important: Onefive does not automatically locks after being turned on. |
Onefive Origami 33MHz specs, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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Beam Size Onefive added
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Power during ~20h, power after turn on, spectrum image and excel datas, polarisation and pulse length.
Powermeter measurments were done with a /10 filter.. 3 mW means 30 mW
Important: Onefive does not automatically locks after being turned on.
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Spherical mirrors at closest position. FSR, finesse and beam size., posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics   
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The spherical mirrors are at the closest position to get a FSR ~=33.3435 MHz. Planar mirrors are at the largest position.
The finesse has been measured about 17 000.
Beam diameter (2*w) is ~= 4.6 mm x and y. |
First mode degeneracy on ThomX, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics    
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Yesterday, we've observed the first degeneracy on ThomX cavity at ~115 kW stored. The shape of the stored power on the oscilloscope is really close to what has been published in the D-shape mirror's paper ("tek0000" transmission in yellow, piezoelectric activator in green, error signal in blue).
This mode could be a 8.0 or 9.0.
We have also observed a change of the angle of the mode (the pictures "degenere", "degenere2" and "degenere3" were taken by order). The only changing parameters are the alignement and the length of the cavity.
The last thing we noticed is the shape of the mode which could not be an hermite-gauss mode (Bessel mode ?). |
New locking scheme, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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Before, the locking scheme was to produce an error signal with the PDH box, send its output to the electronic amplifier box and then to the laser EOM for the fast loop and to the Laselock input. The drawback was changing one loop gain, changes also the other loop gain.
Now, the locking scheme is the error signal coming from the PDH box is directly sent to the Laselock input and in a same time to the electronic amplifier box which is only connected to the laser EOM for the fast loop. then, one has the fast loop gain which can be changed with the electronic amplifier box, one has the slow loop gain which can be changed on the Laselock and if one needs to change global gain of both loops, one can move the PDH diffuser.
This scheme is currently used and locked the setup. |
First Lock with 2nd satge of amplifier : Finesse issue ?, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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1st lock today with the second stage of the amplifier.
~ 300mW of injected power (but which proportion of the pump and of the signal ? => One must use a spectrometer to determine this proportion)
MAYBE the real injected power of the signal is lower => maybe the Finesse is higher !
Coupling ~ 75%
1.2 mW measured in transmission => ~800W inside the FP cavity
=> Gain ~ 3500 => Finesse ~ 11k !!!
Last Finesse measurement was about 19k ! :-( |
First Lock with 2nd satge of amplifier : Finesse issue ?, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics | detectors and electronics
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First of all, we used and optical spectrometer to determine which proportion of pump and signal is in the injected beam.
the wavelength is THE SAME for the 2nd stage for the beam coming from the core or coming from the clad !
thus, it is impossible to use a spectrometer to obtain this proportion.
Thus, we made the assumption the pump beam (Sp) is unpolarized in contrary to the core beam (Sc) which is almost linearly polarized (Scp, Scs)
with a half waveplate and a PBS, we can define 2 cases in rotating the half waveplate at the output of the PBS :
maximum power : Scp + Sp/2 = a1
minimum power : Scs + Sp/2 = a2
The sum of both power a1 and a2 : a1+a2 = (Scp+Scs) + Sp is the total power of the beam before PBS.
The subtraction of power a1 and a2 : a1-a2 = Scp - Scs is independant of the pump power which can vary for example in opening an iris which normally block the most part of the pump beam.
if the core beam is perfectly linear, Scs=0 => a1-a2=Scp and Sp=2*a2
We did 2 measurements with a1=227mW, a2=67mW => Scp=160mW (Sp=134mW)
and with a1'=277mW, a2'=107mW => Scp=170mW (Sp'=214mW with a wider opened iris)
if these measurements and assumptions are correct, the real power injected to the cavity was 170mW (instead of 300mW).
with a coupling of 75% => Gain ~ 6.3k => Finesse ~ 19.7k !
to be confirmed...
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1st lock today with the second stage of the amplifier.
~ 300mW of injected power (but which proportion of the pump and of the signal ? => One must use a spectrometer to determine this proportion)
MAYBE the real injected power of the signal is lower => maybe the Finesse is higher !
Coupling ~ 75%
1.2 mW measured in transmission => ~800W inside the FP cavity
=> Gain ~ 3500 => Finesse ~ 11k !!!
Last Finesse measurement was about 19k ! :-(
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Onefive spectrum and CVBG spectrum, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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The Onefive spectrum has shifted a little bit to lower lambda. It's still enough for the experiment (3mW injection of ampli intead of 1mW needed). |
Fiber injection and onefive output power, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Fiber injection is finished with the new ThomX stretching CVBG in double pass (+50% injection power compared to K-BOX CVBG in simple pass).
- Output Onefive: 27 mW
- After Onefive + lambda/2 + isolator: 25.8 mW
- After Onefive + lambda/2 + isolator + lambda/2 + PBS + CVBG*2 + PBS: 9.6 mW
- After injection into fiber and EOM (+all preceding): 3.2 mW
- Input 99% of the amplifier: 2.86 mW
> 660 mW on 1% photodiode DET100 @1Mohm |
Free Spectral Range (FSR), posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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FSR is 33.347 MHz @1e-8 mbar
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Improvement holder amplifier fiber, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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We've added a clamp in the 3rd stage to prevent the pump fiber from moving and tilting (it was tilting to the left). |
ThomX amplifier M2, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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The ThomX M2 has been measured between 1.5-1.6 for x and y |
Electrical trouble (disjunction), posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about cabling
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The circuit breaker on ThomX cavity drops @1.5-1.8kW when we turn on 1/2nd stage of the amplifier or 3rd stage of the amplifier.
Amplifiers are now connected to K-BOX UPS.
We are buying a clamp ammeter for further investigations. |
Cavity under vacuum , posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about vacuum
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The cavity is right now at 6.5e-8 mbar (turbo pumps on for 1 night and ionic pumps for 3h), primary pumps and turbo pumps are cut, ionic pump are on and the pressure level is still going down.
Therefore there aren't any big leak in the cavity and we can expect a final vacuum level close to e-9 mbar. |
Pneumatic valves, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics
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Frederic and Manu from vacuum group came this morning to fix again the pneumatic valves which had a leak again. |
Finesse measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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After mirrors were going back from LMA for cleaning and thermal anealing, they have been installed in FP cavity for Finesse measurement.
after getting strange results when the cavity is closed (very low Finesse...maybe too much ethanol inside cavity procucing some lineic losses), we get 12k-12k5 Finesse with primary vacuum (~4 mbar) and a clean lock (very flat transmission signal and quite noiseless reflection signal)
we let the cavity pumped all the WE to see if we can measure a difference or not at lower pressure. |
Finesse measurement, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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To complete these observations:
Finesse has been measured on thursday, right after cleaning the cavity with ethanol @6000.
Finesse has been measured on friday, after opening the cavity for few tens of minutes @12000-12500. The cavity was openned while locking and the transmission was continuously and ~linearly increasing.
Finesse has been measured today after ~50h pumping with primary vacuum @17000. It's back to the highest value we've ever measured on this cavity.
Parameters @17000 finesse:
Input power: 7.85 mW (Koheras + AOM + 2*EOM)
Coupling: 70-75% => Pin ~ 5.9 mW
Transmission through S2 and P4: 50 µW (transmission estimated to 1.5 ppm) => Pcav ~ 33 W => G ~ 5600
It is compatible with a simulation with nominal parameters for mirrors and adding 47ppm by mirror of losses (absorption and scattering) which indicates 17k of Finesse and 4100 of power gain.
in this simulation, the coupling should be 94% instead of the 70-75% measured. It is possible that the losses (47 ppm) are not the same on all mirrors.
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After mirrors were going back from LMA for cleaning and thermal anealing, they have been installed in FP cavity for Finesse measurement.
after getting strange results when the cavity is closed (very low Finesse...maybe too much ethanol inside cavity procucing some lineic losses), we get 12k-12k5 Finesse with primary vacuum (~4 mbar) and a clean lock (very flat transmission signal and quite noiseless reflection signal)
we let the cavity pumped all the WE to see if we can measure a difference or not at lower pressure.
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Diffusion ULE spherical mirror (S3) vs Fused Silicate injection planar mirror (P1), posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Observation made with IR Beam Viewer:
The observation of P1 and S3 simultaneously while locking shows much higher diffusion on the ULE mirror. The diffusion on the two other ULE mirrors (S2 and P4) shows similar diffusion as S3. |
New Suprasil mirror from LMA, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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14/05/19:
New Suprasil mirror received. It will replace the S-BOX suprasil mirror on ThomX which was already replacing the sapphire mirror.
First finesse measurement: 14000
Features sent by Christophe Michel:
"- Transmission mesurée (1064 nm)= 172 ppm ; Transmission estimée (1031 nm)= 140 ppm
- Réflexion (1064 nm)= 1025 ppm; doit être inférieure à 1031 nm
L'AR n'est pas bon alors que l'on obtenu 170 ppm pour le run de calage!
J'espère que vous pourrez néanmoins l'utiliser.
- Diffusion moyenne sur diamètre 12 mm: 2.6 ppm"
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New Suprasil mirror from LMA, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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19/09/2019 : email from Chrisophe Michel about AR coating of LMA mirrors after reading that Ta2O5 layers can be damaged in vacuum if not protected by a SiO2 layer :
"oui tous nos coating standards HR se terminent par une couche de protection SiO2 Lambda/2.
Dans certains cas (spécifications du projet) l'épaisseur de la couche de silice de sortie peut être ajustée.
Par exemple pour matcher une transmission très précise.
Pour les coating AR la couche de sortie est en silice mais pas lambda/2.
Pour ThomX je te confirme que la couche de sortie est une lambda/2 de silice. La formule de l'empilement est : (HB)19 H2B avec H:Ta2O5-TiO2 et B: Silice pour les substrats en ULE et (HB)13 H2B pour le substrat en saphir.
La plupart de nos miroirs sont montés en cavité sous vide (notamment ceux de VIRGO) et ce phénomène n'a pas été observé (hors présence de plasma)."
20/09/2019 : new email from Chrisophe Michel after he sent back the mirrors (LMA made a cleaning and thermal annealing) :
"le colis avec les 4 optiques, nettoyées 2 faces après traitement thermique et caractérisation, a été envoyé cet après midi par DHL (tracking number 4995967550).
Dans le colis j'ai ajouté le miroir en saphir C16115-11.
Les mesures donnent des absorptions entre 0.12 et 0.5 ppm (nous avons réussit à faire fonctionner de nouveau le banc mais il est mode dégradé avec une incertitude plus grande sur les mesures mais l'ordre de grandeur est bon et correspond aux valeurs mesurées en 2016 qui était de 0.24 ppm).
Pour les pertes par diffusion voila ce que Laurent à mesurer (les valeurs sont identiques à celles mesurées en 2016 sauf pour le C16116/11):
- C16116/11: 9 ppm sur diamètre 10mm (6 ppm mesurées en 2016); 4.5 ppm sur diamètre 6 mm; T=1.5 ppm @ 1064 & 1031 nm (simulée)
- C16116/12: 8.5 ppm sur diamètre 10mm; 4.5 ppm sur diamètre 6 mm; T=1.5 ppm @ 1064 & 1031 nm (simulée)
- C16116/13: 14 ppm sur diamètre 10mm; 10 ppm sur diamètre 6 mm; T=1.5 ppm @ 1064 & 1031 nm (simulée)
- C16115/11 (saphir): 9 ppm sur diamètre 10mm; 4 ppm sur diamètre 6 mm; T=148 ppm @ 1064 nm soit 120 ppm simulée @ 1031 nm"
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14/05/19:
New Suprasil mirror received. It will replace the S-BOX suprasil mirror on ThomX which was already replacing the sapphire mirror.
First finesse measurement: 14000
Features sent by Christophe Michel:
"- Transmission mesurée (1064 nm)= 172 ppm ; Transmission estimée (1031 nm)= 140 ppm
- Réflexion (1064 nm)= 1025 ppm; doit être inférieure à 1031 nm
L'AR n'est pas bon alors que l'on obtenu 170 ppm pour le run de calage!
J'espère que vous pourrez néanmoins l'utiliser.
- Diffusion moyenne sur diamètre 12 mm: 2.6 ppm"
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Motor issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | detectors and electronics
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Today, Axis 9 (Z-axis of P1) has blocked the software which drives all the motors.
impossible to bypass the problem.
I had to :
- switch off the motor driver crate n°2 (motors 9-16)
- disconnect all motor cables (9-16)
- reconnect only cables 15 and 16.(same internal board of crate n°2)
- restart the software to test that, now, the software launches properly
and I did again the procedure with connecting all motor cables |
Motor issue, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | detectors and electronics
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Today again, same problem with axis 9 blocking the controlling software during the mirror alignment procedure.
after opening the motor 9-16 controlling crate, we saw 2 screws (RX- and TX+ of the controller) which were badly screwed.
we firmly screwed them... could it be the cause ?
after reconnecting everything, the software launches properly... and everything is back to work... wait and see.
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Today, Axis 9 (Z-axis of P1) has blocked the software which drives all the motors.
impossible to bypass the problem.
I had to :
- switch off the motor driver crate n°2 (motors 9-16)
- disconnect all motor cables (9-16)
- reconnect only cables 15 and 16.(same internal board of crate n°2)
- restart the software to test that, now, the software launches properly
and I did again the procedure with connecting all motor cables
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Cavity dust source check, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics
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Several experiments have been done in order to check the potential source of dust in the ThomX cavity. For each step, we look at a clean surface, put the cavity under vacuum, go back at ambient pressure and check back the "clean surface".
1st: Primary pump on
2nd: Primary pump + Turbo pump on
3rd: Primary pump + Turbo pump + Ion pump on
4th: Primary pump + Turbo pump + Ion pump on + 10 "open/close" displacement of the pneumatic valve
5th: Primary pump + Turbo pump + Ion pump on + 1 full range displacement of P1 z motor
6th : Primary pump + Turbo pump + Ion pump on + RGA
None of these experiences have shown good correlation with dust generation.
The RGA has shown reasonable values.
Conclusion is that dust was already in the cavity and was only displaced by all combined motors, pneumatic valves, cavity opening and closing movements. |
LMA cleaning technique, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Christophe MICHEL told us more precise informations about spin coater cleaning.
They always clean with pur water and cotton tipped sticks.
First a spray of water, then they put the wet cotton tipped sitck onto the mirror from the center to the edge ~x3 while continuing to spread water. They finish by putting more water without the cotton tipped stick.
WARNING: WATER HAS TO BE CHANGED EVERY DAY
They said they only use clean water but in case of grease/oil onto the mirror they would use first acetone then clean water. |
Primary vacuum to check dust, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics | vacuum 
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The cavity has been cleaned then put under primary vacuum (primary pump without vacuum flow control). Dusts presence was checked at air and no significant changes have been observed.
1ST image before cleaning
2ND image after cleaning
No changes after coming back from primary vacuum |
Mirrors sent to LMA, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Mirrors have been sent today to LMA for cleaning and maybe annealing (recuit). 3 ULE of ThomX and the fused silicate for injection (trans @140ppm ). |
Finesse measurement after mirror cleaning using the spin coater, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Last Finesse measurement in air : ~ 17 000 the 20th of may (see logbook)
28th and 29th of august, we cleanned, with Loïc, mirrors S3 then P1 successively using only ultra pure water with the spin coater.
we measured the finesse after each cleaning by modulation technique and in both cases, F ~ 12 500 !!!
maybe the mirror surfaces have been covered by some hydrocarbure during the summer ?
or by an other contaminant which is difficult to clean with only water ?
we decided to clean the mirrors first with an isopropanol solution and then with ultra pure water and the spin coater. |
Finesse measurement after mirror cleaning using the spin coater, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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today I cleaned S3 with isopropanol and then with pure water on spin coater.
Finesse is only 10 700.(coupling 50% ? => to be confirmed...)
maybe we have to redo the procedure with a different way of cleanig (pushing less on the mirror ... ?)
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Last Finesse measurement in air : ~ 17 000 the 20th of may (see logbook)
from 28th to 30th of august, we cleanned, with Loïc, mirrors S3 then P1 successively using only ultra pure water with the spin coater.
we measured the finesse after each cleaning by modulation technique and in both cases, the finesse did not change !
maybe the mirror surfaces have been covered by some hydrocarbure during the summer ?
or by an other contaminant which is difficult to clean with only water ?
we decided to clean the mirrors first with an isopropanol solution and then with ultra pure water and the spin coater.
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Finesse measurement after mirror cleaning using the spin coater, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Following finesse measurements (start @10700):
Clean P1 with SC (water) + isoprop (wipe) finesse @15000
Clean S2 with SC (water) + isoprop (wipe) finesse @13000
Clean P4 with SC (water) + isoprop (wipe) finesse @11000
We have to take into account that "cleaning" the mirror change the alignment axis in the cavity so the finesse can change because of that. It would explain the erratic nature of these results which seem to not show any effective cleaning.
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today I cleaned S3 with isopropanol and then with pure water on spin coater.
Finesse is only 10 700.(coupling 50% ? => to be confirmed...)
maybe we have to redo the procedure with a different way of cleanig (pushing less on the mirror ... ?)
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Last Finesse measurement in air : ~ 17 000 the 20th of may (see logbook)
from 28th to 30th of august, we cleanned, with Loïc, mirrors S3 then P1 successively using only ultra pure water with the spin coater.
we measured the finesse after each cleaning by modulation technique and in both cases, the finesse did not change !
maybe the mirror surfaces have been covered by some hydrocarbure during the summer ?
or by an other contaminant which is difficult to clean with only water ?
we decided to clean the mirrors first with an isopropanol solution and then with ultra pure water and the spin coater.
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Vessel cleanliness, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics | vacuum
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looking in the vessel of the FP cavity using a UV lamp shows a lot of dust... more dust than outside the cavity !!!
here is picture where one can see a cleaned zone using a finger (with gloves).
question : where does come from this dust ?
2 possibilities :
- large and small belows which could trap the dust and release it during the pumping process
- ionic pumps could release some clusters when they are working.
we plan to clean as effectively as possible the inner surfaces, to close bellows, make woking ion pumps to check if it released again some dust. |
Spin coater air supply removed and front panel changed, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics   
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Spin coater firstly needed vacuum and air supply. The air supply being useless for our experiments, it has been disabled.
The process is the following and is reversible:
1) Remove the hub from the top of the spin coater, (see picture 1), 4 screws hold the hub in place, once these screws are removed the hub will lift off the motor shaft.
2) Remove the 2 screws holding the stainless steel top decks in place (see picture 2), please be careful when removing the top deck as the lid switch wire will be attached.
Once these have been removed, you can access the inside of the spin coater.
You must add a bypass wire to the timing block (see picture Purge Bypass 1), the wire must be connected to the A1 and 28 ports on the timing block and remove the red wires from connexion. This will now cause the spin coater to bypass the purge check switch and allow the machine to boot up without air/nitrogen being supplied. To revert this change, simply remove the bypass wire you have installed and plug the 2 red wires back to A1 and 28.
The "enter" button of the front panel had some trouble and has been changed. |
2nd stage output power validated , posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Onefive output power : 28mW
Power before fiber injection : 7.8mW
After EOM and 99% coupling fiber : 1.8mW
After EOM and 1% coupling fiber : 14 uW (~1%), ~7.5V @ 1MOhm on DET36
Frep : 33.326 MHz
Output 1st stage + collimator & dichroic mirror: 36uW
Output 2nd stage @6A (~260mV @50Ohm on DET36): 300mW --> after 20-30min
Output 2nd stage is the same value as Onefive 133.33MHz |
Onefive 33MHz unmodelocked, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Oscillator randomly unmodelocked on 3rd july afternoon (during oscillator power measurement, maybe a reflection from the powermeter power filter ?)
Modelocked this afternoon by putting Onefive motor and phase at reference on the PTC software. |
New design for PDH boxes, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about detectors and electronics
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A new design has been studied for the 5 PDH boxes to better match the low (33MHz) repetition rate of the ThomX laser.
the 5 PDH boxes have been modified and tested (see the attached report).
A mixer has been integrated to the PDH box for a more simple use.
the PDH N°1 has been lend to Huan for her experiment in China. |
telescope for Koheras, posted by Huan Wang at Optical room about lasers and optics
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telescope of Koheras is removed, information record here:
- distance between collimator edge and -50 lens mount edge is 14.7cm,
- distance between another edge of -50 lens mount and +250 lens mount edge is 14.3cm,
- distance between another edge of +250 lens mount and edge of bread board is 25cm. |
Polarization, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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Polariztion measured with Input vertically/horizontally polarized (~100% DOLP)
- Transmission (P4) locked on cavity horizontal polarization is ~50% linearly polarized and ~50% unpolarized ?
- Transmission (P4) locked on cavity vertical polarization is ~50% linearly polarized and ~50% unpolarized ? |
Amplifier mission Bordeaux, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Other about mechanics | lasers and optics  
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Voyage Bordeaux au CELIA avec Jérôme LHERMITE (Loïc et Titoutan)
1er jour (34°) :
Mesure du spectre et de la puissance des 4 diodes de pompe 3ème étage jusqu’à ~60W (12A).
Mécanique et câblage ampli.
2ème jour (30°) :
Soudure des fibres des diodes de pompe 3ème étage avec les fibres du recirculateur.
Câblage entre les 2 boitiers et fixation des fibres dans le boitier du 3ème étage.
3ème jour (26°) :
Connexion refroidissement à eau du recirculateur (chiller).
Soudure fibre CFBG avant 1er étage (temporaire pour faire des mesure).
Mise en place des éléments 1er et 2ème étage sur le support de l’ampli.
Montée en puissance 35W.
4ème jour :
Adaptation du mode de sortie en contrôlant la position de la fibre avant le collimateur.
Mesure de M².
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Amplifier mission Bordeaux, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Other about mechanics | lasers and optics 
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M² mesuré à 10W.
M²x = 1.17
M²y = 1.14
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Voyage Bordeaux au CELIA avec Jérôme LHERMITE (Loïc et Titoutan)
1er jour (34°) :
Mesure du spectre et de la puissance des 4 diodes de pompe 3ème étage jusqu’à ~60W (12A).
Mécanique et câblage ampli.
2ème jour (30°) :
Soudure des fibres des diodes de pompe 3ème étage avec les fibres du recirculateur.
Câblage entre les 2 boitiers et fixation des fibres dans le boitier du 3ème étage.
3ème jour (26°) :
Connexion refroidissement à eau du recirculateur (chiller).
Soudure fibre CFBG avant 1er étage (temporaire pour faire des mesure).
Mise en place des éléments 1er et 2ème étage sur le support de l’ampli.
Montée en puissance 35W.
4ème jour :
Adaptation du mode de sortie en contrôlant la position de la fibre avant le collimateur.
Mesure de M².
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Transmission of Sapphire mirror, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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See image. |
Finesse measurement by decay time technique, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics    
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5 Files attached:
- Note on the technique and results for the present cavity on 2019, May 21th : F ~ 18 000
- 2Tektronix scope raw data
- 2 matlab files to fit the scope raw data and extract the Finesse |
Finesse after cleaning (new suprasil mirror), posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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15/05/19-20/05/19:
Cleaning of the mirrors:
Initial finesse 14000 @air
S2 with isopropanol, finesse 17000 @air
P4 with isopropanol, finesse 17000 @air
S3 with isopropanol, finesse 17000 @air
S3 with first contact, finesse 17000 @air
S2 with first contact, finesse 17000 @air |
33MHz Onefive power overtime decrease, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics  
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Power of the 33MHz Onfive decreases over time. Have to pay attention to that.
Note that air dryers have never been stopped.
10th april 2018: ~40mW (first picture, 10dB filter)
25th september 2018: ~36mW (second picture, 10dB filter)
16th april 2019: ~29mW (third picture, no filter)
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Injection of 33MHz Onefive through fiber, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics    
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Output power of the Onefive, and power after injection and different components have been measured.
Coupling ~= 90%
Each of our two EOM roughly have the same loses ~3dB |
Mirror's cleaning and finesse, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Summary of what have been cleaned the last week:
P1 with isopropanol, finesse 11000
P4 with isopropanol, finesse 13000
S2 with isopropanol, finesse 13000
S3 with isopropanol, finesse 14000
S2 with isopropanol, finesse 14000
P4 with isopropanol, finesse 12500
P4 with isopropanol, finesse 12500
Finesse decreased with last steps which probably means our cleaning technique is at its maximum. We will probably try a cavity axis change with the mirror's motors to increase the finesse to the maximum like that.
Next step is to clean P1 with acetone + pur ethanol, then install the Onefive. |
P4 cleaned and finesse measurement, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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P4 cleaned with isopropanol.
Finesse measured afterward: ~=13 000 (clear increase) |
Finesse after 2days, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Finesse measured this morning after P1 SUPRASIL being into the cavity for two days. In order to check if it's getting dirty.
Finesse still ~= 11 000 |
Finesse with P1 SUPRASIL, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics   
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P1 SUPRASIL has been installed instead of P1 Sapphire. It has been cleaned 3 times on each face with wipe+isopropanol before to be installed.
Finesse ~= 10 000 - 11 000 (EOM Sweep of 100 kHz in 10sec, see last image.)
Coupling ~= 45%
Motors position:
P1 = -825 000
S2 = +825 000
S3 = +825 000
P4 = -825 000 |
Transmission of the mirrors, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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We openned the cavity, removed S2 and measured trans of P1 and same for S2.
Pin ~= 3.91 mW
PS2 ~= 20 nW --> ~~ 5 ppm !!!
PP1 ~= 5.23 uW --> ~~ 1337 ppm !?!?!
P1 is the Sapphire mirror. 3mm thick. Tomorrow we'll measure its trans again, being out of the mount for constraint issues. |
Transmission of the mirrors, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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After verification, transmission of P1 correspond to ~150ppm.
The 1337ppm come from a beam leakage. Reflection from P1 goes to the input window which reflects again a part of the beam directly into the cavity between P1 and S3 then between P4 and S2.
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We openned the cavity, removed S2 and measured trans of P1 and same for S2.
Pin ~= 3.91 mW
PS2 ~= 20 nW --> ~~ 5 ppm !!!
PP1 ~= 5.23 uW --> ~~ 1337 ppm !?!?!
P1 is the Sapphire mirror. 3mm thick. Tomorrow we'll measure its trans again, being out of the mount for constraint issues.
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Transmission of the mirrors, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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P1 transmission out of the mount (means angle of the mirror is not the real angle):
Pin = 3.2 mW
Pout = 545 nW
Offset = 68 nW
Transmission = (545-68)/3.2e6 = 149 ppm
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After verification, transmission of P1 correspond to ~150ppm.
The 1337ppm come from a beam leakage. Reflection from P1 goes to the input window which reflects again a part of the beam directly into the cavity between P1 and S3 then between P4 and S2.
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We openned the cavity, removed S2 and measured trans of P1 and same for S2.
Pin ~= 3.91 mW
PS2 ~= 20 nW --> ~~ 5 ppm !!!
PP1 ~= 5.23 uW --> ~~ 1337 ppm !?!?!
P1 is the Sapphire mirror. 3mm thick. Tomorrow we'll measure its trans again, being out of the mount for constraint issues.
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Beam size at closest spherical mirrors position, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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S3 and S2 @ +1 640 000 and P1 and P4 @ -825 000
Diameter in x: 4.7mm
Diameter in y: 4.7mm |
Finesse after removing wires, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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19/04/01: We removed the wires from the beam path in the cavity. Finesse stayed at 3400. FSR: 33.342 MHz.
When locked:
Input Power: ~4mW
Through S2: ~0.950uW
Through S3: ~0.930uW
Through P4: ~0.850uW |
Motors Z axis reversed, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics
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S2 and S3 z-axis are initially at 1/4 (5mm/20mm) of there range over ~20mm range. This is meant to be able to spread them up to ~15mm in case of thermal effect.
Actually, they are in an opposite position. Means that they can only be spread of 5mm from the initial position. |
Motors Z axis reversed, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics
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All Z motors (for P1, S2, S3 and P4) have been initialized again with a proper HOME command with their own controller with the "superviser" software (which means they all moved to the +1650000 position).
Thus, they have been moved to their default position : +825000 for spherical mirrors (S2 and S3) and -825000 for plan mirrors (P1 and P4).
reminder : lower values on the motors makes the motor tip going inside which makes the cavity length larger.
thus spherical mirrors are in default position with a possible big range to put inside the motor tip (for thermal effects compensation).
by complementarity, plan mirrors are in default position with a possible big range to put outside the motor tip.
the Labwindows CVI was buggy about the proper representation of the motors motion in Z direction (wrong direction and wrong default position).
the software is now fixed.
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S2 and S3 z-axis are initially at 1/4 (5mm/20mm) of there range over ~20mm range. This is meant to be able to spread them up to ~15mm in case of thermal effect.
Actually, they are in an opposite position. Means that they can only be spread of 5mm from the initial position.
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Wires in laser path, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics | cabling 
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There was some ceramic wires close to the beem path right before P4. We moved them away (we can imagine they could move again with vibration). |
Check of mirrors and coating directions, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics
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Direction of HR face of P1 and P4 have been checked, there was no problem. The mirrors are in the good direction and the coating is on the good face.
Once P1 and P4 outside of the cavity, we checked the coating position by sending the HeNe laser with an angle. There was two reflections and the most intense was the one closer to the normal to the mirror.
On P4 we noticed a spot which seems to be in the coating (does not move while sending nitrogen). |
Cavity at atm pressure, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics | vacuum
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Dry air injected into the cavity.
Lock has been proceeded without any trouble. ~~4000 finesse. Considered to be the same than before.
x and y motors axis put back to the last "cavity at air" position. z position kept at maximum distance between spherical mirrors. |
Motors connexions, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics
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Motors are connected. The true mirror's name are P1 for injection mirrors, S2, S3 and P4. (S=spherical, P=planar).
They are still some old schemes (and notations on the cavity) which mention M1, M2, M3 and M4. I make the link here:
M3 = P1
M1 = S2
M2 = S3
M4 = P4
The wires are plugged as follows (I use notations wrote on the cavity and wires):
M3x = 1-1
M3y = 1-2
M3z = 2-1
M1x = 1-3
M1y = 1-4
M1z = 2-2
M2x = 1-5
M2y = 1-6
M2z = 2-3
M4x = 1-7
M4y = 1-8
M4z = 2-4 |
Basic alignment & alignment motors check, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about mechanics | lasers and optics
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14/02/19: The 4 motors but Mby control works. Mby motor home does not bring it to its "middle" position but to the end of its range. Issue circumvented using the higher rights software.
The beam is now going through the cavity windows (from P1 to S2). |
Mirrors sent to LMA, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Other about lasers and optics
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30/01/19 - As LMA people came, we discussed about the spots on ThomX mirrors which should be clean. As mentionned in "SBOX commissioning", these spots are normal.
An other question appeared during the conversation about the storage time and location of these mirrors. They have been stored for more than two years in plastic boxes. LMA people explained that some company do not let anything more than 6 months in these boxes for pollution issues.
We merged into the same conclusion, clean the mirrors in case of pollution. Finally, they took the mirrors and we will go to LMA to recover them between 11/02 and 14/02. |
Mirrors checked with binocular microscope, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics 
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29/01/19 - ThomX mirrors have also been checked with binocular microscope. They shown the same spots as S-BOX mirrors.
1st image shows reflective face of a spherical mirror.
2nd image shows reflective face of M1 (sapphire). |
End of cleaning, plastic fixed on cavity, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about utilities 
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08/02/19 - End of the cleaning process. |
Cleaning outside IP cavity, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about lasers and optics | utilities  
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From 7th january to 11th january.
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End of vacuum test and cavity ready for cleaning, posted by Loïc Amoudry at Optical room about vacuum   
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Vacuum tests finished on 19 december 2018.
Spent last two days to discuss the importance of removing aluminium and baking wires before to insert mirrors for cleanliness issues. Finally we took pictures to support our demand.
Cavity should be ready to clean for the new term 2019
Le 19/12/2018 à 14:56, Bruno Mercier a écrit :
Bonjour Daniele, Loïc,
Nous sommes à votre disposition pour effectuer une entrée d'azote sur
la cavité.
Bruno |
Etuvage cavité THOMX, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about vacuum
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Mail de Bruno Mercier du 19/11/2018 :
Une première cavité a été étuvée, la pression est actuellement de
3.10-10 mbar, l' étuvage de la deuxième cavité vient de commencer et se
finira en début de la semaine prochaine.
Bonne journée,
Bruno
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Remontage des vérins, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics
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Mail de Yann du 8/10/2018 :
Bonjour,
Tous les vérins sont maintenant OK ! Merci Ronic.
La cavité a été réglé en mode nominal (tilt à +2/-2 et Z à +5/-15 ou -5/+15).
Demain avec Christopher on remet tous dans les enceintes à vide.
Du coup, Patrick tu pourras ré-connecter les câbles céramique (à partir de demain apres midi).
On est dans les temps pour des tests de vide et d'étuvage a partir de lundi prochain.
A+
Yann. |
Remontage mécanique, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics
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Mail de Yann du 12/10/2018 :
Je vous fais le bilan des actions effectuées :
1/ La mécanique a été remontée avec changement des billes céramiques, soufflet défectueux, ect...
2/ Test et mise en place des vérins en position
3/ nettoyage des chambres et insertions de la méca
4/ connectorisation des câbles perlés et test des vérins par le soft
5/ fermeture des brides
6/ nettoyage du marbre et de la zone
On est donc prêt pour les test de vide et d'étuvage.
RAPPEL pour tous :
Des nouvelles combinaisons propres sont à disposition (on ne sort pas du flux avec la combi !)
Mettre MASQUE / CHARLOTTE / COMBI / GANTS !
Ne pas rentrer de CARTONS ou autres sources de pollution.
NETTOYER les outils ou objets à rentrer dans la zone
RANGER après les manips. |
Détection de fuite, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about vacuum
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Mail de Bruno Mercier du 18/10/2018 :
Un petit CR de la journée:
Nous avons effectué une détection de fuite sur l'ensemble des cavités optiques. Une fuite très importante a été localisée au niveau de la bride de la Pompe ionique (PI) située sur la deuxième cavité optique par rapport à l'entrée de la salle blanche.
Manu a démonté la PI , la fuite provenait du fait que le joint n'était pas tout à fait centré. Après un remontage de la PI, une nouvelle détection a été faite:
détection d'une fuite sur la bride avec les sorties Sub-d M4 après resserrage c'est OK.
Détection d'une fuite sur la bride de sortie DN200 avec hublots de la cavité 1 après resserrage c'est OK.
Demain et le début de la semaine prochaine sera consacré à la mise en place de l'étuvage, puis de la descente en pression avec pompage ionique.
bonne fin de journée,
Bruno |
test des vérins ISP 20mm et 6mm, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | cabling
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Après avoir utilisé la chaine : driver ISP - cable ISP DB9 - Feedthrough enceinte DB9-DB9 - cable perlé DB9-SUB-C - Capsule SUB-C,
l'ensemble de tous les vérins 6mm et 20mm ont été testés => ils fonctionnent TOUS.
Les vérins 6mm ont TOUS subis un HOME. cette commande cherche une fin de course du vérin et le place ensuite en position médianne.
Au niveau soft, la course d'un vérin 6mm va de -22 000 à +22 000. Après un HOME, chaque vérin est postionné à la valeur 0. |
test des vérins ISP 20mm et 6mm, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | cabling
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Après avoir utilisé la chaine : driver ISP - cable ISP DB9 - Feedthrough enceinte DB9-DB9 - cable perlé DB9-SUB-C - Capsule SUB-C,
l'ensemble de tous les vérins 6mm et 20mm ont été testés => ils fonctionnent TOUS.
Les vérins 6mm ont TOUS subis un HOME. cette commande cherche une fin de course du vérin et le place ensuite en position médianne.
Au niveau soft, la course d'un vérin 6mm va de -22 000 à +22 000. Après un HOME, chaque vérin est postionné à la valeur 0.
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Précision : le HOME sur les vérins de 6mm place AUTOMATIQUEMENT le vérin en position médianne après avoir atteint une fin de course (FDC)
Pour les vérins de 20mm, la commande HOME place le vérin sur sa FDC positive : +1 650 000 mais NE DEPLACE PAS ensuite automatiquement le vérin en position médiane.
Il faut le faire de façon manuelle.
Tous les vérins 20mm vont subir un HOME et être placés manuellement en position 0.
Il faut ensuite leurs envoyer un offset +825 000 ou -825 000 selon les vérins pour que la cavité ait une conformation rectangulaire.
(actuellement elle ne l'est pas à cause de cales de longueurs différentes selon les axes pour anticiper les effets thermiques à compenser ultérieurement).
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test des vérins ISP , posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | cabling | software
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* les vérins de 20mm (axe Z) ont été testés sur table grace à une rallonge SUB-C - DB9, au chassis ISP et au soft SUPERVISEUR écrit en labwindows CVI par Didier.
pour rappel, la course soft va de -1 650 000 à +1 650 000 pour 20mm de course, soit 0.6mm pour 100 000 de course soft.
ils ont été réglés en positions minimale (-1 650 000) pour que Yann puisse les intégrer facilement dans le chassis mécanique.
* une fois installés dans la capsule, les signaux passent par le feedthrough de la capsule.
MAIS cette capsule a vocation a être intégrée au chassis mécanique, intégré lui-même dans une enceinte et les signaux passent alors par un autre feedthrough, celui de l'enceinte.
Il faut donc IMPERATIVEMENT ce feedthrough (ou l'effet miroir qu'il produit) pour tester correctement les vérins dans leur capsule ! |
test des vérins ISP , posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about mechanics | cabling | software
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* les vérins de 20mm (axe Z) ont été testés sur table grace à une rallonge SUB-C - DB9, au chassis ISP et au soft SUPERVISEUR écrit en labwindows CVI par Didier.
pour rappel, la course soft va de -1 650 000 à +1 650 000 pour 20mm de course, soit 0.6mm pour 100 000 de course soft.
ils ont été réglés en positions minimale (-1 650 000) pour que Yann puisse les intégrer facilement dans le chassis mécanique.
* une fois installés dans la capsule, les signaux passent par le feedthrough de la capsule.
MAIS cette capsule a vocation a être intégrée au chassis mécanique, intégré lui-même dans une enceinte et les signaux passent alors par un autre feedthrough, celui de l'enceinte.
Il faut donc IMPERATIVEMENT ce feedthrough (ou l'effet miroir qu'il produit) pour tester correctement les vérins dans leur capsule !
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Onefive Origami 33MHz specs - Polarisation, posted by Ronic Chiche at Optical room about lasers and optics
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one rotate a lambda/2 before a PBS and meausure the refected power:
Pmax=35.6 mW
Pmin=107 µW
Ellipticity ~ 3 per mille
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