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Wed Nov 15 09:36:35 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | report | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | bunker temperature curve | |
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Tue Nov 14 11:33:45 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | report | mechanics | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | M4 motor using icepap controller and jive/Atkpanel IHM | one problem is the FP-cavity/laser lock loss when one moves a FP-cavity motor.
with acceleration = 0.01 units/s² and velocity = 50mm/s (here, the 'mm' unit seems strange as it is very fast), it's enough to make a move fast enough for small displacements (10 steps for example to center PZT position) and it seems that the cavity stays locked (only the FP-cavity/laser is locked).
=> to be checked when both FP-cavity/laser and FP-cavity/RF-reference feedback loops are running.
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Kevin moved the M4 mirror controller from the ISP controller to some ICEPAP controller.
the IHM to access this ICEPAP controller is accessible by launching 'jive' from any account ('operateur.thomx' for example).
once in the jive window, one has to select the 'device' tab, then select the OC=>OP=>OCH.02-MOT.03 device.
an AtkPanel is launched in which one can change the step values which are direclty the motor steps.
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Tue Nov 14 10:51:57 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking | temperature stable around 21.7°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +147µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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temperature stable around 20.8°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +158.4µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
it is very difficult to maintain both loops in the same time as soon as it is needed to move one motor (CFP or Laser) because of the one element (RF reference or Laser or CFP) is drifting in frequency.
to try to understand why these 3 elements seems to drift so fast one from each other, we only measure the beating frequency between the RF reference and the free running laser (without lock of the CFP)... and we see a drift around several Hz by second of the beating signal => who is guilty ? Laser or RF synthesizer ?
one can compare their respective phase noise to have an idea of their relative phase/frequency stability :
the OneFive phase noise gives +40dBc/Hz @10Hz offset in optical frequency which is 300000 (110dB) more than at 1GHz => 40 - 110 = -70dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
to be compared to the SMA100A which gives -85dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
conclusion : the RF reference should be more stable in long term and the drifts we see should come from the laser...
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today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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Tue Nov 14 10:35:16 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking | temperature since we moved to temperature probe (jump at the beginning of the plot) below the ring on a metallic base.
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as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Fri Nov 10 12:37:42 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking | as the temperature is back to a normal value ~ 20.8°C, the injected power to the amplifier (PD_IN in the Alphanov software) is back to 3.15mW without doing any alignment.
this morning the lock was around 48.5kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) after CEP/alignment tuning.
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today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Fri Nov 10 09:51:22 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | report | mechanics | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | M4 motor using icepap controller and jive/Atkpanel IHM | Kevin moved the M4 mirror controller from the ISP controller to some ICEPAP controller.
the IHM to access this ICEPAP controller is accessible by launching 'jive' from any account ('operateur.thomx' for example).
once in the jive window, one has to select the 'device' tab, then select the OC=>OP=>OCH.02-MOT.03 device.
an AtkPanel is launched in which one can change the step values which are direclty the motor steps. |
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Fri Nov 10 09:43:26 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking | temperature stable around 20.8°C
today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +158.4µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
it is very difficult to maintain both loops in the same time as soon as it is needed to move one motor (CFP or Laser) because of the one element (RF reference or Laser or CFP) is drifting in frequency.
to try to understand why these 3 elements seems to drift so fast one from each other, we only measure the beating frequency between the RF reference and the free running laser (without lock of the CFP)... and we see a drift around several Hz by second of the beating signal => who is guilty ? Laser or RF synthesizer ?
one can compare their respective phase noise to have an idea of their relative phase/frequency stability :
the OneFive phase noise gives +40dBc/Hz @10Hz offset in optical frequency which is 300000 (110dB) more than at 1GHz => 40 - 110 = -70dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
to be compared to the SMA100A which gives -85dBc/Hz @10Hz offset @ 1GHz
conclusion : the RF reference should be more stable in long term and the drifts we see should come from the laser...
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today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode)
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Thu Nov 9 17:02:26 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Laser / FP-cavity "day by day" locking | today, we locked the FP cavity at ~50kW with 30% laser amplifier ratio (16W) during almost all the day (from 10am to 4pm)
CEP optimized for MCS-1/Ch2 = -244µm at the end of the day.
once one finds the proper CEP value to reach to correct loops gain, the cavity lock and power are very stable:
one looses the lock only when one needs to use the Smaract motors to follow the long temperature drifts.
several elements of the ThomX machine have been powered ON progressively during the lock without any lock perturbation excepting for a very short time when switching ON the RF cavity (to be confirmed) and when one tried to inject electrons into the ring (loss of the electrons after few turns only)... but it's not very clear. the lock is still stable but some time one sees a lock loss without "reason"... could it be the electron loss or some bad compensation of the noise due to feedback, it's hard to say.
at the end of the day, I had to realign the FP-cavity injection and change the CEP more often than in the morning,
and surprisingly, the intra-cavity power drops a little bit at the begining of the lock (~50kW) and after some tenth of seconds (=> ~47-48kW).
it is not so much but it is very repeatable at each try.
I tried to optimize the CEP, the injection alignment, the PID parameters => it helps but at the end, I still have this slow power drop of few kW over tenth of seconds that I didn't see at the begining of the day... to be investigated.
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Thu Nov 9 16:40:16 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Ring frequency / Laser "day by day" locking | today, the equivalent Smaract position corresponding to the 500.25MHz ring frequency is +156µm on MCS-1/ch0 (closed loop mode) |
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Wed Nov 8 18:52:44 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | some changes in the feedback scheme | from several weeks, the maximum power stored in the FP-cavity was ~ 5kW.
today with Daniele, we finished to investigate the problem, and now the power inside the FP-cavity is back to ~50kW for 30% of laser amplifier ratio (~16W).
we optimized the signal received by the PDH photodiode by installing a large DET100 to collect more light.
if one installs a small photodiode (DET10) in the middle of the beam, the carrier signal when a FP-cavity crosses a resonance is larger because the photodiode "sees" only the part of the beam which is geometrically coupled to the cavity in its small active area, but :
1- once we will improve the geometrical coupling, the part of the incoming beam coupled to the FP-cavity will increase.
2- one need to work with a diffuser in front of this photodiode to precisely adapt the feedback loops gain : in that case the photodiode is sensitive to the whole input beam, whatever his active area size.
so, we decide to put a DET100 (which is given for 35ns rise time / 10MHz BW when connected on 50ohms).
see the scheme in attached file.
and a picture of the desktop with all the lock parameters :
the quality of the lock, seen on the reflected power signal is very good !
and the stability is only limited by the necessity to act on the laser Smaract motors to let the PZT in its working range.
dark blue : transmitted signal
green : PZT
pink : error signal
light blue : reflected signal
conclusion : it is not clear that the cavity Finesse have significantly increased during the last weeks, as we are roughly at the same level than before (47kW).
but as we precisely adapted the signal levels in the feedback scheme (PDH S/N ratio and Laselock parameters), the result is a more stable lock.
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Wed Nov 8 17:51:30 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | issue | mechanics | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | !!! strange amplifier beam pointing fluctuations !!! | we confirmed the effect of the bunker temperature on the laser amplifier "beam pointing" fluctuations.
once the temperature is getting back to stable values, it doesn't happend again.
we bought a temperature data logguer to monitor them in the future: https://www.picotech.com/data-logger/tc-08/thermocouple-data-logger
this post close this thread.
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this morning, I locked the cavity to ~25kW without any problem.
but this afternoon, the reflected power exhibited low frequency (~1Hz) fluctuations of about 10% without any lock.
the reflected PhD is a DET10 which has a small surface.
we checked the OneFive oscillator power which is perfectly stable.
we changed the DET10 PhD for a DET100 PhD with ~1cm surface : we don't see any power fluctuation => the amplifier power seems stable.
we put back the DET10 PhD : we see these fluctuations of about 10% => it could be some pointing effect !!!
when one locks the FP-cavity, we clearly see exactly the same power fluctuations at the Transmission PhD but complementary => the sum is constant.
so, it seems clear that the beam coupling to the cavity is fluctuating due to some pointing fluctuation of the incoming beam.
a reason of these fluctuations could be the thermal jump done today because of the air cooling system of the bunker :
the temperature jumped from 25°C yesterday (and maybe still this morning ?) to 18°C this afternoon !!!
thus, some mechanical parts (the compressor CVBG ?) could be moving and then could produce these pointing fluctuations...
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Tue Nov 7 14:09:25 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | Strecher and fiber injection alignment | Today, the power measured at the input of the amplifier (PD_IN on the LAL amplifier software) is 2.5mW instead of >3mW generally measured
The power coming from the NKT/Onefive Origami oscillator is still >37mW (measured directly with the powermeter at the laser output without OD2).
thus, the problem should come from:
- the strecher/fiber alignment.
- or maybe from a wavelength shift of the oscillator
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Monday 7/11 morning, the power in the fiber was still 6.2 mW
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this morning : still 6.2 mW at the output of the fiber.
the powermeter has been removed and the fiber connected to amplifier input fiber (no EOM connected in between).
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This morning with Manar, we continued the strecher CVBG alignment and fiber injection procedure :
- we checked the power at the output of the laser and confirmed the measurement after the Isolator : ~ 36 mW
- we tried to improve the power after the strecher CVBG by rotating the quarter-wave plate but it seems we were already at the maximum : ~ 10.5 mW
- we aligned the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : we saw 5 mW at the output of the fiber but it is very difficult to keep the power after swcrewing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
we decided to replace the 750mm focusing lens installed by a 1000mm lens.
- we aligned again the 2 fiber injection mirrors + schafter-kirchoff mount z-axis : now, we have ~ 6.2 mW stable at the output of the fiber after screwing the 2 z-axis fixing screws of the schafter-kirchoff mount.
the procedure for aligning the schafter-kirchoff mount is :
- unscrew the z-axis and tilt fixing screws (5 screws in total).
- improve the injection with the z-axis knob and the tilt screws
- tighten very softly all the fixing srews once the optimization is finished => you will lose a part of the alignment but not completely (~ 1 mW level)
- redo a part of the alignment with the 2 aligning mirrors => you should find back the values after optimization.
we let the power-meter at the output of the fiber to check in the next days if the injected power in the fiber changes or not....
it is important to not "kick" the fiber injection box or put anything on it ! as the schafter-kirchoff mount adjustment is soooo touchy...
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Manar + Victor, today in the morning we aligned the CVBG of the stretcher.
The double path using the mirror mounts, reached up to 5.4 mW just before the injection into the fibers
then we rotated the quarter wave plate and the power increased by a factor of ~ 2 to 10.3 mW
we started with the injection into the fiber by alignment of the 2 mirror mounts.
1) fiber not connected and have everything pass through the mount
2) connect fiber loosely and increase the power in fiber bit by bit until fiber fixed fully
reached power up to 438 uW
alignment not finished using the mounts, there is still also schafter-kirchoff mount.
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I used the 33MHz spectrum measurement : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/153
fitted by P=P0*sech²((f-f0)/df)
f0 = c/1030m
df = (c/1030nm^2) * 2.5nm
and the strecher CVBG measured data (in attached file with reference D24-02)
to estimate the expected power to be coupled into the fiber.
the corresponding plot shows 3 curves:
- black : the 33MHz laser spectrum "manually fittted" with the sech² function (mentionned at the begining of this post) to match the measured spectrum from the elog.
- blue : the strecher CVBG reflectivity curve from the Excel measured datasheet in attachement.
- red : the corresponding output power after a double path into a CVBG (the reflectivity is applied twice).
with this simulation, one can estimate the power after CVBG to be 12.5 mW for 35 mW of input power.
or 9.6 mW after CVBG for 27 mW of input power which is exactly what has been measured in a previous post by Loic : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
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This morning with Manar, we measured the power at different points:
- direct measurement at the output of the 33MHz laser : 35 mW
inside the injection box :
- after the Isolator + focalization lens : 35 mW
- just at the input of the strecher CVBG : 35 mW
- atfer optimizing the alignment of the double path CVBG, in between the 2 fiber injection coupling mirrors : 5,7 mW
(the power is measured after going through the quarter-waveplate and PBS)
I found an old post from Loic claiming that with 27mW input power, we got 9.6 mW after the PBS instead of 5,7 mW !
https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/70
we have to check if the laser wavelength shifted, if the alignment could be improved, if the quarter-waveplate has the right angle,....
then, we tried to couple this 5,7mW inside the fiber using the schafter-kirchoff mount (SKM) but it is a nightmare.
changing the focus and the internal fiber angle is very sensitive, not always predictable and rarely reproductible...
I have to ask Guillaume how he used this mount...
the best power we saw in the fiber is 1mW but after screwing the fixing screws of the SKM, we lose almost all the alignment and we have something around 100-300µW...
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In preparation for tomorrow morning, I did a test with a 45° mount to have a power pickup inside the injection box.
I used the 133MHz laser.
output power measured with the powermeter : 45mW
output power measured with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
output power measured with the 45° mount with BB1-E03 mirror with the powermeter + OD2 : 2mW
as expected the BB1-E03 mirrors have a very good reflectance for AOI=45°
the specs give >99% @ 1030nm for both S and P polarizations.
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This morning with Viktor, we started the alignment of the CVBG and fiber.
we did a better alignment of the 2-pass CVBG.
we are able to the see a spot after PBS (after the 2 CVBG pass) which means the alignment is OK even if it can be improved.
then, we started the fiber injection alignment with the 2 last mirrors (7 & 8 on Alphanov documentation).
we saw that if we unswcrew the fiber to play on the focal position, we are able to improve a lot the power in the fiber.
2-3µW with the fiber screwed => 500µW with the fiber unscrewed.
it means the beam is not enough focused.
I will ask Guillaume Machinet his advice when injecting the 33MHz... do we need to replace the long focal lens just after the Isolator ?
and with which value approximatively ?
we played also with the Schafter+Kirchhoff mount of the fiber colimator (see attached documentation).
we loosen the 2 screws around the eccentric key which adjust the focal position + play on this eccentic key + tighten the 2 screws again.
now, we reached 330µW with the fiber properly screwed.
we have to check the available power before the fiber injection but we have very few place to place the powermeter.
maybe with a small mirror ?
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Today, after laser was modelocked, we checked the power inside the fiber coming from the Alphanov Strecher box.
it was almost zero, at the nW level.
after doing some very rough alignment, we clearly saw some power (with the powermeter) correlated with the position of mirrors, when turning the alignment knobs.
this is a first step but the output power in the fiber is still very low, about 20nW !
an additionnal 2mm L-shaped hex key is needed to do some walking alignment on the mounts.
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Mon Oct 9 13:11:23 2023 |
Daniele Nutarelli | Fixed | info | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | Tests of pointing stability of the laser CFP | Last monday with Victor we have cheked the stability of de pointing of the laser FP.
The climatisation was operating since 3 days in satble way. The laser pointing was very stable before to inejct in to the cavity (picture 1) and also for the reflexion from the cavity (picture 2).
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Fri Sep 22 11:30:28 2023 |
Daniele Nutarelli | Fixed | report | lasers and optics | Optical room | Laser FP operation | This morning FP Laser was operating well locked at 30 KWatts in stable vay.
There are some fluctuations due tu pointing instabilities probably dues to temperature fluctuations in de bunker.
In the attacced picture are reported the lock parameters and signals.
By adjusting the position of laser caviti length the lock old all de morning. |
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Thu Sep 21 18:56:56 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | issue | mechanics | lasers and optics | ThomX igloo | !!! strange amplifier beam pointing fluctuations !!! | this morning, I locked the cavity to ~25kW without any problem.
but this afternoon, the reflected power exhibited low frequency (~1Hz) fluctuations of about 10% without any lock.
the reflected PhD is a DET10 which has a small surface.
we checked the OneFive oscillator power which is perfectly stable.
we changed the DET10 PhD for a DET100 PhD with ~1cm surface : we don't see any power fluctuation => the amplifier power seems stable.
we put back the DET10 PhD : we see these fluctuations of about 10% => it could be some pointing effect !!!
when one locks the FP-cavity, we clearly see exactly the same power fluctuations at the Transmission PhD but complementary => the sum is constant.
so, it seems clear that the beam coupling to the cavity is fluctuating due to some pointing fluctuation of the incoming beam.
a reason of these fluctuations could be the thermal jump done today because of the air cooling system of the bunker :
the temperature jumped from 25°C yesterday (and maybe still this morning ?) to 18°C this afternoon !!!
thus, some mechanical parts (the compressor CVBG ?) could be moving and then could produce these pointing fluctuations... |
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Wed Sep 20 19:17:44 2023 |
Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | detectors and electronics | Optical room | lock oscillateur 33MHz - synthé 500MHz | after a sudden FP-cavity Finesse increase, we had to install the Fast Feedback Loop in order to continue to lock the cavity.
this afternoon, I was able to lock both the FP-cavity and the Laser on the 500.25MHz oscillator reference.
I had to change the CEP to reduce the effective Finesse and help to get a better stabililty => P ~ 25kW inside the FP-cavity for 30% of laser amp. power ratio.
the 20Hz oscillation is still there on the PZT signal and can be seen also on the reflected signal when the amplitude of the PZT signal is large or when the lock is lost or almost lost.
this 20Hz signal is modulated by a higher frequency of the reflected signal => to be investigated...
the posts, specific to the 20Hz oscillation noise, are here : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/258
this post closes this thread.
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this afternoon, we were able to lock the laser on the FP-cavity and the FP-cavity on the Ring reference oscillator in a same time from the control room.
the procedure when laser, cavity and reference oscillators are far in frequency, is :
1) start the amplifier to get the laser signal in the reference photodiode used to measure the 33MHz.
2) look at the beating frequency with the reference oscillator and quickly cancel it using the Smaract motors.
one need to remember the direction and distance corrected by the Smaract motors.
3) compensate the motion in the FP-cavity using these rules :
- 600nm with the Smaract motors <=> 100 steps on the FP-cavity motors
- decreasing the value on the Smaract motors <=> increasing the value on the FP-cavity motors
4) start the lock between the laser and FP-cavity
5) adjust both cavity length step by step until reaching < 5Hz of beating
6) start the lock between FP-cavity and reference oscillator
we still see the 20Hz noise both in the PDH error signal and in the laser PZT feedback signal.
it could mean :
either the FP cavity is stable but the Laser cavity is oscillating (noise source) and badly compensated by its own PZT
or the FP cavity is oscillating (noise source) and the Laser cavity is oscillating too (due to feedback) but badly compensated with the laser PZT
the bad compensation in both case could come from a mechanical resonance which produces a phase jump that the PID is not able to properly compensate, even with a high gain (integration).
=> to be checked with a behavorial simulation
the noise source in the laser cavity could be the Smaract motors.
=> we need to switch them off to compare the noise with and without
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this afternoon, I firstly connected the HV output of the Laselock to the FP-cavity PZT : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/248
locking the FP-cavity on the local synthesizer works better with the improved HV output range.
the ~20Hz oscillation in the beating signal of the FP-cavity/synthesizer is still there.
one can observe exactly the same oscillation on the Laser PZT signal.
I think the FP-cavity is oscillating at this frequency and the laser PZT correction signal is compensating it.
this oscillation produces also an error signal with the beating of the laser harmonic and the synthesizer.
an other possibility for this low frequency oscillation could be the hexapod stability ?
then, I switched to the 500MHz Ring Synthesizer instead of the local one.
we were able to lock all the elements, FP-cavity and Laser, in a same time.
we have Vp=3.25V of signal amplitude when not locked and dVrms = 140mVrms of rms noise once locked => rms jitter = dVrms / (2pi F Vp) ~ 13.7ps rms
with F=500MHz.
reaching a state where both loops are locked is not simple as :
- the FP-cavity motors are noisy when they move, and one direction has some backlash compensation which produces a long unlock.
- the laser motors are less noisy but too noisy to be moved w/o unlock
- moving the FP-cavity motor changes the laser PZT position and can put the system out of the locking range for the laser PZT.
the correct strategy is :
1) lock the laser on the FP-cavity using the laser motors (no lock of the FP-cavity compare to the synthesizer).
2) wait to have a quite good thermal stabilization => this can take time especially if it is the first lock of the day when the cavity is cold.
3) measure the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer.
4) pre-compensate the direction of the laser PZT with the laser motor when you will play on the FP-cavity motor
ex : a step on the right on P4 motor will move the laser PZT to the top, then you need to pre-compensate this move by placing the laser PZT voltage lower with the laser motor (Smaract).
5) do the move on P4 motor
6) check that the frequency beating between FP-cavity and synthesizer is reduced
7) redo 4) 5) 6) until the frequency beating is < 5Hz and stable
8) start the lock on the FP-cavity PZT.
due to the power drifts inducing frequency drifts, it will be difficult to work continuously more than a couple of minutes.
the procedure has to be done continously from 4) to 8)
having HV output on the laser PZT should help to improve both lockings range and inscrease the locking duration => to be checked w/o fast feedback loop (FFL) or with FFL if needed.
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this morning, I added a Thorlabs lowpass filter at 1kHz after the mixer and a resistor at the Laselock output to the FP-cavity PZT.
I set the PID with P=10 and I=D~0
in attachement, a plot of the 500MHz mixer output, before and during the lock.
during the lock, one gets a residual oscillation around 20Hz... where does it come from ???
could it be some mechanical resonance, as we already had before (it was ~30Hz) : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/84
when unlocked, one gets : A*sin(dPHI) with A=3V => 6Vpp signal
when locked, one gets a 400mVpp error signal => A*dPHIpp = 0.4pp => dPHIpp = 133 mrad
dPHI = 2*pi*F500M*dt => peak-peak jitter dtpp = 42 ps => rms jitter = 15ps
this value can be measured directly on the 500MHz signals coming from the laser and the reference synthesizer.
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this afternoon, I tried to lock the FP-cavity on a local 500MHz synthesizer as a frequency reference
(it's faster to change the frequency from the sythesizer than from the FP cavity !!!)
I found some parameters on the PID of the Laselock to phase-lock the reference and the FP-cavity
but the locking quality is poor => we produce some oscillations which are copied by the FP-cavity/laser lock on the laser PZT.
the error signal (FP-cavity/reference) is quite noisy, then maybe one can try to do some analog filtering at a lower frequency ?
=> one can use Thorlabs LPF at 10kHz or 1KHz.
one can try also to filter the signal going to the PZT to reduce the excitation of the PZT resonance.
=> use a variable resistor in serie with the PZT capacitance to make and RC filter (Cpzt ~ 70nF)
for reminding, the previously working PID parameters, found with the 133MHz laser/533MHz reference lock, were:
P=10, I=0.01, D=0 for mid SR, and no filtering.
once we will found good PID parameters, we will be able to switch to the Ring oscillator at 500MHz as a reference,
then work with HV from the Laselock to improve the locking range.
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this afternoon, I installed the frequency detection scheme in the bunker :
- I changed the large reflected photodiode DET100 by a fast small DET10.
- a 50ohms splitter is connected to the photodiode :
* one cable is going directly to the scope for monitoring
* one cable is going to the 500MHz sharp bandpass filter to select only this harmonic.
despite the small BW of the filter, one gets 3 harmonics : 500MHz + (0 +/- 33) MHz with a bit less power on sidebands.
power on 500MHz : ~ -30dBm if the laser amplifier is at 30%
- after the BPF, one goes directly to the RF amplifier which is 2x Minicircuit amp ZX60-33LN in cascade to get ~ +3dBm
- then one goes to the level 17 mixer on the RF port.
the LO port is feeded with the 500MHz coming from the Ring reference oscillator.
in attachement is a picture of the output signal : ~ 1.5Vpp
I think the width of the signal is coming from the 33MHz sidebands which are not perfectly removed by the 20MHz BW of the scope.
one finds a frequency shift of 250kHz.
as the laser frequency has been set at 500.25MHz (on the 15th harmonic), would it mean the Ring reference oscillator was at 500MHz sharp ? => to be checked with Kevin.
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Today, I connected the BNC-DB9 female prolongator cable to the FP-cavity PZT cable (DB9-DB9) and to the channel B of the Laselock.
I additionnaly connected the reflected laser beam (normally connected to scope ch2) to the spectrum analyzer @ 1GHz to observe the 30th harmonic of the laser comb.
on the 2 attached pictures, the 1st one is @0V on FP-cavity PZT and the 2nd one is @10V on the FP-cavity PZT.
as the laser is locked on the FP-cavity, its frequency follows the FP-cavity length and its frequency changes.
as expected, applying 10V on the FP-cavity PZT, increases the laser harmonic frequency @ 1GHz by about 10Hz => the relative change is 10^-9 V^-1
(as the FP-cavity length is always moving due to temperature or low frequency vibrations, there are always some FP-cavity length fluctuations, and the measurement has to be quick to get a correct evaluation).
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Today, I installed a DB9-DB9 female-male cable on the PZT connector of the FP-cavity.
the PZT is connected between pins 1 and 2, with a capacitance around 70nF.
I need to make a prolongator cable BNC-DB9 female to connect it to the feedback system.
with a (dLpzt / dV) of 5nm/V, one should be able to see 37mHz/V on Frep which is equivalent to ~10Hz/10V @ 1GHz (30th Frep harmonics)
I connected a photodiode on the spectrum analyzer to measure this variation => to be done tomorrow.
I don't have any information about the polarity of the PZT on the DB9 connector but I know that the PZT length should increase with positivite voltage in normal operation.
from the Yann documentation about the PZT mount (in attached file), it should mean that the cavity length should decrease when the PZT length is increasing, and then the FP-cavity FSR should increase.
=> to be tested tomorrow.
about the PZT mount :
I understand that the HR face of the P4 mirror is the face placed on the only part with a chamfer (chanfrein), on the FP-cavity side.
in the documentation, the PZT connector orientation is misleading as it is oriented to the FP-cavity side instead of to the "outside" as one can see it in the cavity picture in attached file.
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- régler le problème 1:
Kevin m'a apporté un déphaseur Minicircuits JSPHS-661 (400-660MHz / 180° de phase) qui permet de déphaser le 500MHz de ~ 1ns avec une tension DC 0-10V.
on peut alors changer le signe du lock pour scanner les 2ns d'une période complète de 500MHz.
- régler le problème 2:
la synchro anneau se fait sur la RF du synthé 500MHz avec une signal de trig fabriqué à partir d'un 16MHz, issu d'une division de ce 500MHz.
en cas de perte de synchro de la cavité FP, on va relocker sur le 500MHz mais avec une phase aléatoire par rapport au 16MHz.
on peut donc remplacer ce 16MHz par le signal 33MHz issu du laser de telle façon que l'injection des électrons dans l'anneau se fera toujours avec la même phase par rapport à ce signal à 33MHz.
il faudra donc envoyer ce signal issu du laser cavité FP au système de synchro anneau, de cette façon la phase d'injection des électrons dans l'anneau par rapport au laser sera toujours la même.
mais il n'y a aucune raison que les électrons tombent exactement sur le pulse laser (avec la bonne phase).
il faudra donc scanner la phase du signal de trig pour décaler l'injection machine par rapport au signal 33MHz avec des steps ~ 1ns.
pour cela, on peut utiliser les générateurs de delais Greenfield Technology GFT1020 actuellement utilisés pour la synchro (résolution 100ps).
voir schéma attaché en pdf
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pour préparer le lock cavité-anneau, j'ai un setup de lock en salle optique entre le laser OneFive 133MHz et un synthé à 533MHz (133MHz x4).
ce matin, j'ai pu locker les 2 ensembles avec le laselock avec une stabilité RMS, je pense inférieure à la ps.
ma limite de mesure du jitter temporel au scope est de ~ 2.5ps.
- une fois locké avec le laselock, je peux facilement décaler légèrement en phase les 2 signaux de façon très précise (<1ps) en jouant sur l'offset de lock,
mais je ai une plage assez petite (+/- 250ps) qui correspond grosso modo aux plages linéaires du sinus (1/4 de période) soit 500ps (F ~ 533MHz => T ~ 2ns)
en changeant le signe du lock, je peux faire des sauts du lock d'une 1/2 période, soit 1ns...
mais cela ne suffit pas à couvrir l'intégralité de la période du signal de référence.
=> 1er problème : je n'ai accès qu'aux plages "linéaires" du signal de référence.
il faudrait un petit déphaseur programmable piloté en remote pour faire des steps de 100ps environ, sur une plage de 1 ou 2ns afin d'être sur de scanner tout la période du 500MHz.
- en coupant le lock, les fréquences driftent l'une par rapport à l'autre.
et en raccrochant le lock, on peut scanner toute la période entre 2 pulses d'électrons par steps de 2ns.
puis en changeant le signe du lock, par steps de 2ns mais décalé de 1ns.
on peut donc facilement scanner la période des électrons avec des steps de 1ns et une plage de 500ps autour de chacun de ces steps.
=> 2e problème : lorsque l'on perd le lock de la cavité FP/laser involontairement, on perd l'info de la longueur de la cavité FP.
et lorsqu'on retrouvera le lock, il va se raccrocher sur une autre oscillation du 500MHz.
et donc on va perdre la phase avec les électrons à 16MHz.
=> on peut éventuellement afficher ce signal à 16MHz, en même temps que le 500MHz pour rechercher l'oscillation correspondante à la bonne phase sur le 16MHz.
mais dans tous les cas, il faudra rechercher à nouveau la phase é-/laser à chaque délock.
- Autre possibilité, faire la synchro sur le 16MHz au lieu du 500MHz.
la tentative aujourd'hui n'a rien donné car le signal est 30x moins intense => beaucoup plus de bruit.
=> le lock n'arrive pas du tout à accrocher même en filtrant énormément le signal IF avec 10kHz de BW.
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Ronic Chiche | Fixed | info | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | Fast feedback loop between laser and FP cavity | I copy the post about Fast Feedback loop : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/265
This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
Conclusion : now, this Fast feedback loop is mandatory to lock the cavity at high Finesse or high Gain (G > 10k)
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this afternoon, we tried to better understand how to drive properly the EOM to kill high frequency noise.
we locked to laser on the FP-cavity as usual.
then we injected a 0-10V square signal on the laser EOM @ 1KHz (with fast rise and fall times ~ 10ns)
we clearly see a small drop on the cavity transmitted power, but much like a sine wave in phase with square signal, because of the small bandwidth of the cavity ~ 1kHz.
then it is difficult to deduce a time response of the system when one injects a signal on the EOM.
because of compensated noise on the PZT signal, one does not see any variation on this signal
because of the bandwidth of the feedback (~10kHz => 100µs period), the possibly visible effect of the square input signal on EOM is compensated quickly,
in addition, the effect with 0-10V input signal is small and superposed with other noise sources => one does not see a clear correlation.
we planned to work with 0-100V input signal but we add a strange issue at this moment BEFORE increasing the voltage on the EOM
=> see next post : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/261
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today, after the several unsuccessful attempt yesterday to get an improvement in the lock,
we decided to "rebuild" the error signal electronics block by block and step by step :
the scheme is basically :
- DET36 photodiode
- followed by a 10MHz low pass filter to remove the laser frequency harmonics and keep only the modulation frequency at 8.4MHz.
- connected to a FEMTO HPVA AC-coupled 40dB gain amplifier with 50ohms in parallel on its input (which is connected to the photodiode).
- connected to a Minicircuit mixer which is also demodulated by the generator at 8.4MHz
- followed by a 1.9MHz low pass filter to remove image frequencies
when this signal is sent to the Laselock box, the lock of the cavity is possible but very noisy.
we need to put a large D values in the PID to maintain the lock at the price of oscillations and gain loss ! :-(
when this signal is connected also to the M250 video EOM amplifier (which is 50 ohms), but this amplifier is not used,
we suddenly got a much better lock (see the attached pictures), certainly due to the 50 ohms connected to the input of the Laselock system => to be verified.
one could have some noise current at the Laselock input which produces less noise at the output when the input impedance is 50 ohms, instead of the several kohms when the input is unloaded...
then, we were able to get a stable lock at ~40kW with 30% coupling and 30% of amplifier :
see this post with the same values : https://elog.lal.in2p3.fr/FPC/THOMX+commissioning/227
but now, the lock has been done WITH ALL the motors controllers ON !!! :-)))
now, we can try to improve the lock with the fast feedback loop.
and the only real problem is the mode degeneracy we need to block with the L-shape.
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today, we tried to lock the FP cavity with the Smaract motors ON (with option -LV).
we know the Smaract controllers produce some noise and the lock is very bad or impossible when the controller in ON (whatever the displacement mode is : closed or open loop, or piezo scan).
then we need to do a fast feedback loop on the EOM inside of the Onefive laser.
the problem is we cannot fill directly the error signal (~ 300mVpp) as the signal level is too low to produce some effect.
1- we tried to use the AC-coupled homemade amplifier alone but the output range is too low (+/- 3V)
2- we tried to use the M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling but the output range is still to low (+/-30V ? => to be confirmed)
but we saw an improvement in the locking.
3- we tried to combine AC-coupled homemade amplifier + M250 video amplifier for EOM with AC-coupling.
we are able to lock (~ 30% coupling) but the lock quality is very poor : we clearly see that we oscillate around the maximum of the Airy peak.
we tried several combination of the global gain (fast feedback + Laselock) using the diffuser, of the Laselock PID parameters but it seems we are not able to lock properly.
we measured a global delay of this double amplification stage of 80-90ns for the homemade amplifier and 150ns for the homemade+M250 amplifiers.
this delay is compatible with ~ 500kHz BW for the feedback => it seems it is not the reason...
we measured also the linearity of the homemade amp => there is ~ 30dB between a frequency and its 1st harmonic even at low signal...
the amp scheme is not very linear.
in comparison, the HV M250 amplifier exhibit > 80 dB of linearity !
we will try to remplace the homemade amp by a commercial FEMTO amplifier to imrpove the linearity and see if it improves also the lock.
we measured also a 100Hz AM modulation on the output signal of the homemade amp+M250.
=> we can try to work in differential (HV+ - HV-) to see if it helps to remove this modulation.
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Ronic Chiche | Fixed | issue | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | !!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!! | this afternoon, in adjusting the CEP and improving the parameters of the lock, I was able to get ~ 47kW stable inside the cavity, always for 30% of laser amplification ratio.
it confirms that the Finesse, and then the gain of FP-cavity, has suddenly increased thanks to some "mirrors surface cleaning"
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This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
in attachement, the Laselock parameters and a picture of a lock.
yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
blue : FP-cavity reflection signal
green: PZT signal
pink: PDH error signal
One has to move again the L-shape arm to remove the HOM
and check if we are able to lock in the same time the FP-cavity on the 500.25MHz reference oscillator... to be done this afternoon.
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it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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Ronic Chiche | Fixed | issue | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | !!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!! | This morning,
- I installed the fast feedback loop.
now, the error signal goes to the Laselock AND
to a FEMTO DHPVA amplifier which is connected to the Leysop M250 HV amplifier connected through its HV+ output to the EOM.
one can set the gain of this loop thanks to the DHPVA gain potentiometer and to a 30dB attenuator.
it allows to have a fast and stable lock ONLY IF one reduce the FP-cavity gain using the CEP.
I will check later if I'm able to lock at the maximum gain but today, the cavity power is ~ 30kW, to be compared to the 45kW we were able to get before the "mirror cleaning event".
- I had to swap the sampling frequency of the Laselock from 250kHz to 2.5MHz to reduce the latency and improve the Slow feedback loop stability.
with the previous sampling frequency, the fast feedback loop was almost uneffective...
in attachement, the Laselock parameters and a picture of a lock.
yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
blue : FP-cavity reflection signal
green: PZT signal
pink: PDH error signal
One has to move again the L-shape arm to remove the HOM
and check if we are able to lock in the same time the FP-cavity on the 500.25MHz reference oscillator... to be done this afternoon.
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it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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Ronic Chiche | Fixed | issue | mechanics | lasers and optics | detectors and electronics | ThomX igloo | !!! strange FP cavity behavior => impossible to lock !!! | it could be also an optical unstability, as when the intra-cavity power increases, the radius of curvatures of the mirrors increases too due to thermal effect, and then one could go in the instability region.
but if it was the case, by reducing the power in the FP-cavity, we would also reduce the thermal effect and then, we would come back in the stability region...
and it is not the case : the system is unstable even with 20kW instead of 40kW.
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this morning, we tried:
- to move a bit the arm of the L-shape off the beam axis (in case of it could have touch something and induce vibrations) => no effect
- to change the CEP to get an equivalent lower Finesse => weak improvement
- to add a diffuser in front of the PDH photodiode and check the saturation level after the FEMTO amplifier to avoid non linearity effects in the PDH signal => weak improvement
- to move the half and quarter waveplates in the incoming beam path => no effect
then, we have to work with the laser intracavity EOM to try to cancel high frequencies noise
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suddenly, BEFORE switching the HV amplifier ON and BEFORE connecting it to the EOM (in order to explore the HV effect on the EOM for the fast feedback loop),
we lost the lock between the laser and the FP-cavity: in attchement a plot a the lock with the "best" PID parameters.
- yellow: FP-cavity transmission signal
- green: PZT signal
- pink: PDH error signal
the lock was pretty "normal" except that we observed that the intra-cavity power is always slowly increasing from 40kW to ~44kW during a lock, all along this last week.
there are several possiblities for that :
- a slow increasing of the input power (we see the effect on the reflected signal when the FP-cavity is not locked)
- fluctuations of the CEP to the "good" value,
- or more supprisingly an improvement of the Finesse.
after this issue, we tried to change the laser input power (30% to 25%), or the change the CEP => we always get the same result => the lock is either too "weak" (not enough gain) or too "strong" (the system is unstable and goes in oscillations visible on the picture a the end of each lock period).
we tried to change the PID parameters quite a lot to try to compensate a change in the FP-cavity transfer function without any effect => impossible to have a proper lock as before.
we tried to check if the PDH phase, to produce a proper error signal, has changed => no, it was the good one.
we tried to correct the laser alignement to the FP-cavity, but it was more or less correct and we didn't see any change in the locking.
then, one possibility could be that one dust have been suddenly removed from the cavity mirrors by the high power and the Finesse suddenly increased substancially.
=> more Finesse => less bandwidth => high frequency noise are less "visible" in the error signal and we get less bandwith for the feedback => more difficult to lock.
we thought that this kind of problem could be solved by changing the CEP, but in this case, it didn't succeded to lock.
the other possibility is that just before having this issue, we were doing tests on the EOM with a 0-10V signal.
=> could it be possible that the static polarisation of the laser has changed ?
then, we would need to adjust the waveplates in the laser path to adjust the correct polarisation ?
=> not for sure... as the maximum transmitted power at the begining of the lock is the same as before... and compatible with ~ 43 - 44kW in the FP-cavity.
could it be also that the intermediate signals of the PDH scheme are saturated (because of the increasing power : 40kW to 44kW) and produce a "false" error signal leading to instability ?
or could it be a bug in the Laselock ?
=> we could restart it to confirm....
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